Bigmc wrote:Does this mean I support hanging someone right now and ceasing discussion?
A majority doesn't end the day, the deadline does.Rules wrote:2. At the end of 7 days, the last player to receive a majority will be lynched.
who exactly is trying to set up lynches fast? i read the thread and didn't get that impression. elli's posts have been protown.sb wrote:I agree with bigmc that trying to setup lynches so fast is scummy. And thus, Elli eagerness to lynch is scummy. We don't know for sure the recharge time of the mafia NK, and thus, rushing lynches for the sake of lynching is not good. And Elli has done nothing but support that. Also, the omgusing against bigmc doesn't help either.
bigmc, if it wasn't his vote or his reasons, what about the post "comes off scummy"?bigmc wrote: I'm not so sure Mal is a good candidate for a lynch. His post does come off as a little scummy, but his vote and reasons do not.
so... you can think there's been enough discussion, but drk cannot? this just doesn't flow. i agree that drk is most likely scum, but not because he is trying to lynch people.bigmac wrote:DRK does seem to support the policy of lynching someone as quickly as possible, which is scummy even with the time limit. That being said, I do think we've had adequate discussion today to decide on a lynch.
i disagree. without working hard, scum can run misdirection and manipulate the wagons more subtly. the bigger the wagon, the more info for town. players just chiming in because of deadline without previous input should be lynched next. participation is key.bigmojo wrote:In my mind, Elli and DRK are the scummiest. It's my interpretation that they're trying to mask the fact that want a lynch ASAP with the week long "deadline". It works to scum's advantage, because as soon as suspicion mounts on anyone, scum can jump in without much fear of being criticized, because "they had to before the deadline expired".
in other words, "lets all lurk"?bigmostaccioli wrote: Scum can be a lot more pushy in this game, and I think we should keep our eyes on anyone who pushes a little too much.
really? elli over drk? the guy with solid and sound reasoning over the selfvoter and joke poster?bigscum wrote:I still support Elli's lynch over DRK's. Elli seemed a lot more anxious to get CSL out of the way with almost no reason (the policy lynch thing barely counts).
We are also in the (almost) unique position of not having to worry about hitting a majority and ending the discussion early, so there is no reason, besides claims I suppose, to hold off from voting.bigmc109 wrote:I know, my point was that I didn't think we should rush to a majority just so we have someone set-up.
I think bigmc means DRK has been trying to get a quicklynch. Wouldn't stop him from thinking that there is enough discussion to go on at the moment, but I dislike that it is a fence-sitting post that says 'Hey guys, I'm okay with a lynch now, but uh, we could discuss some things too."don_johnson wrote:so... you can think there's been enough discussion, but drk cannot? this just doesn't flow. i agree that drk is most likely scum, but not because he is trying to lynch people.bigmac wrote:DRK does seem to support the policy of lynching someone as quickly as possible, which is scummy even with the time limit. That being said, I do think we've had adequate discussion today to decide on a lynch.
elli started off the game by proposing we put a majority on CSL instantly.don_johnson wrote:who exactly is trying to set up lynches fast? i read the thread and didn't get that impression. elli's posts have been protown.
true. but when read in the context of being in a game with real time mechanics, the motivation certainly seemed protown. also, the majority would only matter if town couldn't find a lynch candidate. as i recall the proposal was to create a "back-up" lynch based on policy. a literally interpreted policy lynch is "quick" by nature, so adding the word "quick" to the accusation at all just seems like an attempt to place more suspicion than is warranted on an otherwise harmless suggestion.TonyMontana wrote: elli started off the game by proposing we put a majority on CSL instantly.
i think that's the reason why some of us are pushing for a really quick policy default lynch so that we can have the rest of the day discussing the real lynch.Annachie wrote:My main worry, as I think I said earlier in the thread, that if there had been a rushed default lynch set up, it would prevent a real lynch from occuring and that the default lynch's flip would have provided little to no evidence.
Pro-town? Setting up the lynch of a player, who has done nothing yet, in case we can't find someone "better" is pro-town for you? I do not believe that lynching just for the sake of meeting a 7-day deadline is pro-town.don_johnson wrote:true. but when read in the context of being in a game with real time mechanics, the motivation certainly seemed protown. also, the majority would only matter if town couldn't find a lynch candidate. as i recall the proposal was to create a "back-up" lynch based on policy. a literally interpreted policy lynch is "quick" by nature, so adding the word "quick" to the accusation at all just seems like an attempt to place more suspicion than is warranted on an otherwise harmless suggestion.TonyMontana wrote: elli started off the game by proposing we put a majority on CSL instantly.
I'm hunting scum. What are you doing?don_johnson wrote: 196 seems like a big waste of space. exactly what is snowbunny doing for us?
I am not "eager". But I do find Elli suspicious. Again, I do not propose anyone as a deadline wagon. I prefer town waits a couple of day more if needed than just lynching for the sake of meeting the deadline.don_johnson wrote:snowbunny: would you consider yourself "eager" to lynch Elli? if not, who do you propose as a deadline wagon? or do you think a no lynch or weak wagon is better for town?
I'm sorry; I must have missed it. I could have sworn you were just throwing an occasional question Elli's way.SB wrote: I'm hunting scum.
Do you want to clarify? Read him in this game, read him in others, policy lynch him in general?, Policy lynch him in this game specifically? Policy lynch him right now?DJ wrote:I have read CSL and have no problem setting him up as a policy lynch.
Questions and votes. Combined with Elli and you seeming to follow each other ie:"Vote CSL as per Elli's reasoning" and I have to wonder what you really have against SB. Or is it for the Lurking as you said.DRK wrote:I'm sorry; I must have missed it. I could have sworn you were just throwing an occasional question Elli's way.
Editted.BIGMC wrote:Saying CSL should be lynched because he plays anti-town inallgamesisa good reasoning. It's reasoning which will more likely than not lose aplayer that more likely than not will hurt the town
But not taking advantage of an additional town-directed kill would not be useful.Pro-town? Setting up the lynch of a player, who has done nothing yet, in case we can't find someone "better" is pro-town for you? I do not believe that lynching just for the sake of meeting a 7-day deadline is pro-town.
Juls summarizes my thoughts exactly. SB comes next.Juls wrote:With three days until "deadline" I will likely be sticking with DRK but mal/CSL has solidified as a backup choice for me.