Mini 889 - Shopping Frenzy (Over)

[CallMeLiam]

Although, if you aren't scum, you pretty much just told scum who to kill tonight anyway, so yeah, might as well claim.

Well, after p320, I NOW do think muh would be a mislynch.

Also, where the frack is there a claimed town PR thus far in the game. I do not see any. You sir are a liar. (ref p318)

So he highlights the fact that muh almost claimed power just in case anyone had missed it, he decides NOT to remove his vote from what he thinks would be a mislynch and he calls me a liar when as DDD points out, it's Chinaman that's lying.

Can we get a lynch on Chinaman PLEASE.

[PaltryExcuse]

I agree with Liam about China's last post.
A) If you think it is a mislynch, why are you remaining on muh China?
B) He calls Liam a liar, however, there was a power role claim in don_johnson. Clearly he doesn't see a need to read the thread.

Unvote; Vote: Chinaman

muh's play still rankles though.

[muh316]

So my role is a Macho Doctor. I know its the same as wulfys but i am

[don_johnson]

^^ most poorly timed claim ever. lol!

[muh316]

^^ most poorly timed claim ever. lol!

What?

[don_johnson]

yeah, like people have been unvoting you i think. no real need for the claim. kind of odd claiming the dead guys role, but whatever. can u vote chinaman?

[muh316]

ok i will
unvote

vote chinaman

[julienvonwolfe]

So, things are shifting from a muh wagon to a chinaman wagon, which is fair enough.

Then Muh claims Macho Doc, which sounds pretty stupid to me since having two docs in the same game is pretty unusual. Is this just a play on the 'too scummy to be scummy' fallacy, or is it us trying to out-guess the mod? Bah.

I can go with a Chinaman lynch for today. I'll wait for a votecount. By my own count, it would put Chinaman at L-1, but I would like to be sure.

[Chinaman]

Alright.

JVW, Muh, and DJ. I'll straight up ask, which of you is scum? Since you guys are pushing for a nice little mislynch on me, I'm guess one of you is. So which is it?

[don_johnson]

my guess would be muh. i find jvm undoubtedly town.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Unvote

Moronic macho doc is moronic.

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

because he's not a follower and him pretending to be one is nonsense.

[nhammen]

Vote Count

Chinaman (4): don_johnson, CallMeLiam, PaltryExcuse, muh316
muh316 (3): julienvonwolfe, Albert B. Rampage, Chinaman
Albert B. Rampage (1): Debonair Danny DiPietro

Not voting (2): Scott Brosius, Torqez

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Still searching for a replacement for Scott Brosius

[Chinaman]

oh, i forgot Paltry voted me as well. what are your thoughts on him dj?

[CallMeLiam]

muh's power claim isn't surprising, but the fact that he's a macho doc too is interesting. It certainly solves why wulfy and he would be macho, to prevent a nigh unwinnable endgame for scum.

While I'd love for Scott's replacement to arrive soon, I'd also like to hear from ABR about DDD's vote on him (it looked like a fishing ploy to me but DDD knows him better).

Chinaman, how come you're not accusing me of being scum, despite me being fully on your bandwagon?

mod: prod on Torq?

[Chinaman]

sorry, missed you too. interesting.

So at least one scum between:
don_johnson <------
CallMeLiam
PaltryExcuse
muh316 <------
JVW

I say I'm most comfortable with Liam as town due to the fact that he called himself out.
I would also say that I'm least comfortable with DJ or muh (or both) being town. I feel DJ might be scum due to his "gift wrapping JL". Could be hardcore first day busing.
I don't like muh's happily voting for the wagon that's not his against a townie (yeah yeah, you guys don't know that...but I do so there).

So, after ya'll decide if you're going to lynch me or not, we (or you if I'm lynched) can chat about that.

I will be ending this day with my vote on one of them.

[muh316]

So, things are shifting from a muh wagon to a chinaman wagon, which is fair enough.

Then Muh claims Macho Doc, which sounds pretty stupid to me since having two docs in the same game is pretty unusual. Is this just a play on the 'too scummy to be scummy' fallacy, or is it us trying to out-guess the mod? Bah.

I can go with a Chinaman lynch for today. I'll wait for a votecount. By my own count, it would put Chinaman at L-1, but I would like to be sure.

he made some of us macho so we cant be protected. Even though Why would you think im scum even after my power claim.

[muh316]

EBWOP: Replace power with role not power claim role claim

[nhammen]

Adel replaces Scott Brosius effective immediately

Prodding Albert B. Rampage and Torqez

[Adel]

Unvote

Moronic macho doc is moronic.

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

because he's not a follower and him pretending to be one is nonsense.

This post is definitely not nonsense.

[Adel]

vote:Albert B. Rampage

[Adel]

i have been thinking this one over quite a bit, but i think it is best to claim my role right off the bat for a number of reasons. i realize there is detriment to it as well, but the idea of having a confirmed townie in lylo is something we should plan for. i know this throws a wrench in the works, but i have never had this role before, nor played with it in a game, and after thinking it through and weighing the pros and cons i have decided to just claim.

bulletproof townie.

discuss.

best godfather fakeclaim, ever. We better have a vig to test his claim.

[Adel]

unvote,

did you guys actually buy this?

Oh sorry I didnt notice this game *starts watching this topic* there. now im going to read.

I had problems with my firefox and had to download it over again. So then I lost this out of my bookmarks. Now that its on my watched list along with my other games ill be more active.

not bloody likely

Im just going to join the wagon because of the deadline. it seemed to pass by so fast. So we should probably just get on a good wagon for now.

Vote Josh Lyman

Your reluctance to wagon is noted.

one of the two are scum, either slow-muh or sneaky-julien.

I also think a scott lynch would be better because he almost cost us a no lynch. And I think he might be activley lurking to find a way out of this slip. So that people forget about him.

Scott hasn't posted on this site in nine days and it appears he's flaked from two or three other games as well that he was in, that's some real hardcore "active lurking".

Unvote; Vote: muh316

I just skimmed scot's posts in iso. What was his slip supposed to be? I didn't see it.

I think the muh may be one of those people that accuses other people of what he happens to know that he is guilty of: specifically active lurking.

Regarding muh: I just think that the way he phrased it sounded like he was trying to appear innocent, as though he actually hadn't realized the game had started. That is honestly how I parsed his post 188, so I checked his posts; when I found TWENTY of them, I basically lost it. Yes, I have a life, but I do know which games I'm in, whether or not my browser crashed or whatever. I still think his attitude is very anti-town, especially since he promised to be more active; he had two posts within 30 minutes, and now nothing. Can we say "active lurking?" IMO, muh should rectify this. Soon.

unvote
FoS: muh

If you're so sure about your vote on muh, why the unvote?

my guess is that it was because muh and Josh were scumbuddies, and while Josh was pissed at muh for being the weakest link, he didn't really want to lynch him.

vote:muh316

for being a lazy scum player who pissed of his scum-mate Josh, accused Scott of what muh himself was guilty of, for trying to convince the town that his absence was due to bookmarking every game until he was forced to reinstall his browser

then

he magically discovered the "watched topics" function on this forum. Oh, and that weak claim. As a mod I've put in double roles before. The odds of the being two of the same roll in this game are slim, and the odds of the NK victim having the same unusual role as the first person to claim on day 2... incredibly slim. I estimate the odds of muh simply being ballsy enough (his first huge lie seemed to work after all!) to copy that role for his claim when he was forced to claim are much greater.

[Chinaman]

^^I like this post

Adel: One thing I think you are missing is that Muh wasn't actually FORCED to claim. In fact, once I started posting, his wagon lost steam quite rapidly before he claimed. Then he went and claimed anyway. Other than that, I'm on the same thought process with him and JL.

[julienvonwolfe]

I too like Adel's post, and Chinaman's posts since my last post make me a little happier with him.

Adel, since you briefly voted ABR, can you expand on your thoughts about him? Did you simply agree with DDD?

[Adel]

^^I like this post

Adel: One thing I think you are missing is that Muh wasn't actually FORCED to claim. In fact, once I started posting, his

wagon lost steam quite rapidly

before he claimed. Then he went and claimed anyway. Other than that, I'm on the same thought process with him and JL.

Thanks for helping me catch up!
Over which interval of posts did his wagon lose steam over?
Over that period of time, he went from how many votes to how many?

Adel, since you briefly voted ABR, can you expand on your thoughts about him? Did you simply agree with DDD?

3D's post corresponded very closely with the stereotype I have of ARB from over a year ago, when we last played in a game together. Now that I've had a chance to think about it, it isn't realistic for me to expect him to play the way that he played over a year ago. As town in this particular game, if he stuck with the aggressive and domineering play-style I remember him for, I don't think that he would have much luck identifying scum in this town. Only if he is scum with Mur (which I have no real reason to suspect at this point) does his play make perfect sense to me, but since that is conditional upon Mur being scum, Mur obviously hangs first.
It is entirely possible that he has grown or otherwise changed so much in the last year that I simply don't know what I'm talking about vis-à-vis ABR's play-style.