Mini 896 - Jekyll Mafia - Game Over

[Unity]

I apologize to all for wasting your time. I just can't seem to muster enough enthusiasm for this game to be active.

Request replacement

noted

[Budja]

Votecount

4 - 5cvm: (HackerHuck, xvart, PHANTOM, Unity)
2 - MrSuave: (Gerhard Krause, Nachomamma8)
1 - Nachomamma8: (MrSuave)

Not Voting: Green Crayons, 5cvm, raider8169, kikuchiyo, wolframnhart

With

12

alive it will take

7

to lynch.

Deadline:

9th January

[HackerHuck]

Well, let's see if MrSuave is paying attention. I'm reserving my right to go back to 5cvm when he returns, but MrSuave looks like he needs a little more pressure.

Unvote
Vote: MrSuave

[Gerhard Krause]

We need MOAR!

[PHANTOM]

I don't recall seeing that 5cvm was V/LA, but I will

unvote

for now.

raider8169 - Neutral; I liked his posts about Nacho and 5cvm, as I have been agreeing. However, I don't like this post:

In this case I am seeing just him being an ass. So my wanting him to be lynched seems to be more of his play style then him being scum, at least at the moment.

Feels like you want to lynch him more for personal reasons. Also, he's laid back, but so have I.

HackerHuck - Town; He contributes plentiful(right word?) from his attack on 5cvm, and he gives other helpful notes.

I'm pretty sure this is my quote. My whole point is that Phantom shouldn't just sit on his hands waiting for 5cvm to reply. When we have more than one scum left, it's not good scumhunting to just do nothing while waiting for someone to answer a question that they may never get around to answering. That is just the appearance of scumhunting and is itself scummy. And yes, I believe 5cvm is scum, which should be pretty apparent from my vote and justification for my vote.

Yeah, that's my fault, but I'm learning to not tunnel and wait for one person.

MrSuave - Scum; Hasn't contributed much at all, other than he doesn't like Nacho. I suppose HackerHuck's attack on me not doing anything can also apply to MrSuave. So, MrSuave, who else do you think is scum?

if you look at my other games you'll find that everyone seems to think I'm scummy =p

Think someone else mentioned this but yeah...Been there, done that.

kikuchiyo - Neutral;

Just trying to stimulate something. Finding out everyones experience level and familiarity with other players can be helpful. At the very least it helps us find out whose going to be helpful and polite and whose going to be assholes.

That said:

unvote, Vote: Nachomamma8

I am voting Nacho for his decision to not answer my questions. You have claimed "role information" which leads you to believe Nacho is 80-90% scum. Raider has voted Nacho based on the "false dilemma" that one of you two must be scum.

Never really mentioned your reasoning for voting, plus I never answered your questions, but this was mentioned before. Liked the voting on 5cvm, plus going on a competing bandwagon despite of what some said about flip flopping.

To my detractors: You can say I haven't been scumhunting all you want, but you would be ignoring not only the quantity of my content, but its quality. I have been making observations and publishing them, responding to questions, and asking some of my own. I have also pointed out the fact that Phantom and Unity are riding the popular wagon with little contribution, and I have iso analysis' on the way. Interpret it as you like, but I feel my contributions have been solid.

I don't feel your need for posting this. It makes it look like you are trying to defend yourself, when really, no votes were cast on you.

wolframnhart/Ectomancer - Town-Neutral. IIRC he created the competing bandwagon, which as already previously said, was good for the town. Wolframnhart, you unvoted 5cvm, but this could also be applied - who else do you see as scum? In your analysis, you posted that you felt kikuchiyo was scum. Is this still true?

5cvm - Scum. I hope I don't have to go into further detail about why I feel he is scum, but I'm going to post my questions that I want him to answer when he comes back. Why are you trying to create a bandwagon when you have no idea who is town and who is scum? And, why did you pick Nachomamma (just a random person?), and what evidence from Nachomamma do you have that shows that he is now a heavy town read?


I apologize again that this isn't the complete list, but it's 1:40ishAM right now and I want to go to bed. I'll continue to finish this, hopefully, by tomorrow.

[Gerhard Krause]

I feel pretty ok with this post. I like the content and

establishment of a position

.

@Phantom - Vote Mr.Sauve. He's clearly the better lynch.

[raider8169]

Feels like you want to lynch him more for personal reasons. Also, he's laid back, but so have I.

That is why I didnt vote for him at the time. By personal reasons I meant his playstyle not that I just dont like the guy (I have never played with him before this game). I found myself doing that with a few other people voting them just cause they didnt make sense or something like that so I was trying to prevent that. I didnt notice he was going to be V/LA so I'm glad I didnt vote him. Between work and people coming to visit all the time I have not had much time to read in depth so I think I have missed a few things.

[MrSuave]

le gasp! pressure!

[Nachomamma8]

Do you have anything to say to it?

[Gerhard Krause]

Apparently not

[wolframnhart]

le gasp! pressure!

...So you are not going to take it seriously?

vote Mr Suave

[Nachomamma8]

Mod: How's the search for a Unity replacement going?

[HackerHuck]

Mod: How's the search for a Unity replacement going?

This is an odd post.

First, he just requested to be replaced yesterday.
Second, you either have a replacement or you don't. I seriously doubt the mod would say that he has one, but forgot to tell us.
And finally, why are you so concerned about a replacement now?

[Gerhard Krause]

I actually don't see a problem with it. He wants the game to keep moving, so he asks the mod where we're at. Perhaps the mod has a couple maybes, or he found one and the guy just hasn't posted yet. It's off topic, so I don't see how it's relevant.

If he tries to pass it off as pro-town activity, then we have an issue.

[Green Crayons]

le gasp! pressure!

...Really?

[xvart]

Unvote: 5cvm
Vote: MrSuave

That's five, L-2. My only concern is MrSuave just gave up and isn't interested in the game anymore; but lynching a lurker isn't a bad thing either way...

xvart.

[Gerhard Krause]

How could he have given up? He hasn't even defended himself yet.

I wonder if this is why people always think he looks scummy...

[Nachomamma8]

Mod: How's the search for a Unity replacement going?

This is an odd post.

First, he just requested to be replaced yesterday.
Second, you either have a replacement or you don't. I seriously doubt the mod would say that he has one, but forgot to tell us.
And finally, why are you so concerned about a replacement now?

Because a MrSuave wagon was forming and I wanted to get a replacement to comment before a premature hammer...

Why was that post such a big deal?

[raider8169]

Mod: How's the search for a Unity replacement going?

This is an odd post.

First, he just requested to be replaced yesterday.
Second, you either have a replacement or you don't. I seriously doubt the mod would say that he has one, but forgot to tell us.
And finally, why are you so concerned about a replacement now?

Because a MrSuave wagon was forming and I wanted to get a replacement to comment before a premature hammer...

Why was that post such a big deal?

To me posts like this seem to be a distraction. This one wasnt as bad as others I have seen but it was odd as HH said. Tiss all. Even if there was a replacement. It is unlikely they would have enough time to read the game and post before we would be forced to lynch someone due to the deadline.

[Budja]

Votecount

5 - MrSuave: (Gerhard Krause, Nachomamma8, HackerHuck, wolframnhart, xvart)
2 - 5cvm: (Unity, Green Crayons)
1 - Nachomamma8: (MrSuave)

Not Voting:, 5cvm, raider8169, kikuchiyo, PHANTOM

With

12

alive it will take

7

to lynch.

Deadline:

9th January 10pm AEST. (clarifying)

No replacement yet.

[HackerHuck]

Why was that post such a big deal?

Because I found it odd. I often like to leave notes for myself in thread as well as see what kind of reactions I may get from others.

[kikuchiyo]

This game is limping. I agree with the sentiment of 261. It is odd for a post to be solely addressed to the mod, especially concerning a replacement search. Asking for a votecounbt is one thing, but it seems a bit pestering to ask the mod to update on a replacement search barely 24 hours old. Could be nothing, but could easily fit the guise of a post feigning contribution. Right now its null, but I understand HH noting it.

I'm going to start iso's later tonight as I finally have the time. I'll start with Mr. Suave, but I'll move on to a few players I think haven't had any pressure today.

[Green Crayons]

Votecount

5 - MrSuave: (Gerhard Krause, Nachomamma8, HackerHuck, wolframnhart, xvart)
1 - 5cvm: (Unity)
1 - Nachomamma8: (MrSuave)

Not Voting: Green Crayons, 5cvm, raider8169, kikuchiyo,, PHANTOM

With

12

alive it will take

7

to lynch.

Deadline:

9th January 10pm AEST. (clarifying)

No replacement yet.

I believe I am voting 5cvm.

Sorry, fixed

[wolframnhart]

Mr. Suave you are at L-2. Do you have ANYTHING to say as far as a case against another person, some way to defend yourself and your actions (other then "people find me scummy!")?

[Green Crayons]

This is what I intended to post right after my 272. For some reason my internet broke down. (It's working now.)

With that, I stand by my reasons for voting 5cvm. I think Suave's actions in this game mimic 5cvm's, incidentally, but don't see any more reason to vote for Suave than 5cvm at the moment. I am not opposed to either of their lynches, nor a potential kiku/raider wagon, for that matter.

I'll see what I can compile in terms of my kiku/raider suspicions for the following day so we can hit the ground running. I'm not looking to dissuade a 5cvm or Suave lynch at this point in time.