Don't give me this knight in shining armour act - you've been there, applying the blowtorch to me before. Mind you - I live in hot water, so it's just another day at the office.
To answer your questions:
1. Deathnote died because he suggested some poor game theory options, made a couple of scummy dichotomies and I felt there was a connection to him and Starbuck. He was voted to L-1 with great support for his lynch. I hammered when others weren't ready specifically to stop imprinting, which I felt at that stage was likely to help scum rather than town.
2. Starbuck died because I was convinced that she was defending him passively and I convinced enough people to lynch her. I was adamant that this was the case directly after her first post. A number of people were upset about my hammering, and voted me. Nonetheless, some switched and some stayed, but enough voted her to lynch her and it was primarily my case that led to the lynch.
3. Yes, partially. Many people feel that is a major town tell in his favour. He also didn't get involved in the DeathNote/Starbuck issue and has instead spent all game voting me. While I don't exactly find this protown, it is arguably less scummy than others around. I personally think it's quitep ossibly town but his status in the town is overrated.
4. General decent and reasonable posts would be my guess. To me he has made some choices I don't understand which is why I'm not keen on his election, but I think that's why he's there.
There was some important questions to the mod about impriting early in the game but that's about it. We haven't asked if negative effects can happen. I persaonlly assume passive abilities are more likely than roles such as cops (although vigs are possibly more likely due to the mafia not having a kill.)
The key thing is that scum may keep their imprints and may gain additional DIFFERENT powers if they are imprinted more than once. So even with a moratorium on vigging, scum may still have that power, ready to be utilised at a later date - say the night before lylo or after a more varied sample of people have imprints. Thus they are dangerous, and they are dangerous even if you swear not to vig. However, as the only suggested current vig is my own, I'm totally up for swearing that
CTD replaces Messiah. Both Messiah and Reck were against my reasoning implicating the guilt of Starbuck early, and both of them ended up voting her on D2. A few of the juiciest contradictions:
Messiah D1 wrote:SC wrote:
For the record, would you go over exactly how you think elvis and my scheme went down if we were scum? Why didn't elvis choose a scum mate who hadn't imprinted her in his first post of the day? When was the plan hatched? Why didn't I imprint more than just one of my scumbuddies? Why didn't I answer her question the first time?
This line of questioning doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than to make starbuck appear scummy through no fault of her own.
unvote, vote serialclergyman for the ridiculous way he's overreacted towards
starbuck and the above scummy line of questioning.
Messiah D2 wrote:unvote, vote: Starbuck
Her "I don't see where I defended him" defense isn't very persuasive.
Messiah D3 wrote:Heh, maybe. I've wanted SC lynched since day 1, but his posts following DN's flip felt sincere to me at the time and that was enough to temporarily
"blind" me, I guess. I don't plan on making that mistake again.
(This quote is all from his catchup post, so it's been edited but it's lal from the same post on D1)
Reck D1 wrote:SC calling elvis town? What the hell has she done that really warrants a town read, especially this early on? I agree with the Deathnote scum read, but I'm not sure I'd so willingly place Starbuck into scum territory. Hmph.
In fact, by the end of page eight, I'd be willing to upgrade Starbuck to leaning-town.
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Messiah's 236 is a strong post: SC says Starbuck is "obsessed with" and "defending" DN, but someone could just as easily say that he is doing the same with elvis (and vice versa). If it's a scumtell for Starbuck, then it's a scumtell for either elvis or SC. Just because you openly defend someone you read as town (which, way to give NO reasoning behind your unbelievably strong town-read on elvis, SC) doesn't mean that it's more acceptable just because someone thinks the attacks on another null-read are bullshit.
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And... ugh, my predecessor failed. Holy shit, bad play, bad posts, apathy. I just remembered... he said nothing of any interest on pages 1-5. I've noticed that Starbuck gets a lot of scum attention in practically every single game I play with her... and the one game I actively remember he being scum in, I think I saw it coming. Therefore, I'm not willing to accept the Starbuck hate simply because I've seen it happen too many times before. I honestly don't see anything scummy about what she's done so far.
Reck D2 wrote:Vote: Starbuck
On second thought, lynching Starbuck is a better plan. Passively defending someone who flips scum is a no-no.
Reck D3 wrote:That's all for right now, though I'm dying to hear further thoughts on me. Gut instinct says to Vote: SC for now, though we MIGHT wanna consider NO LYNCHING today and just imprinting because it's 3:7.
For the full quotes, check out
my 782 for Reck and
my 974 for Messiah
And just for good measure, the closest outlining of my current theory of the game (which isn't actually that current, a few things have changed) and a bit of analysis about Messiah and Reck's places on the various wagons can be found
here at post 947. Messiah and Reck are in orange.
I'm old now.
