Open 187- Silence of the Yams! Over!

[XScorpion]

/confirm

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Lynch all liars.

Vote: Kunkstar7

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Electric badger is my new buddy.

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Vote: Ectomancer

Also I'm kicking off all the bandwagons. Lol.

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This is not an alt

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For the record, I don't think I ever FoS'd anyone as scum or town.
While I highly disapprove of ecto's threats to leave the game, I don't think it's a scumtell like electric seems to be making it out to be. Either way, so much for ecto being a lurker. Back to my old bandwagon!

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Vote: Kunkstar

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Because of OMGUS of course.
As far as I'm concerned this is still RVS until everyone is actually posting.

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@Parts - I'm guessing you don't like RVS much? Which would explain why you used FoS (not wanting to hop on the bandwagon for some reason) and didn't just vote for someone else?

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@Ecto- what is your opinion of RVS?

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Why didn't you just vote someone else (like most people do in RVS)

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What I don't get though is why a scum would claim to be a lurker then decide not to...

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Some games take me longer than others, but my record is placing a serious vote on the 2nd post of the entire game.

How the hell did you manage that? Did the first poster claim "I am scum please vote me out" or something? Please link me to this game.

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Yeah that's kind of a stupid reason. Anyone can go and look through people's games... is ElectricBadger not showing us that right now?

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OK I will try this again.
Voting someone because they voted for someone they knew is no better than random voting. Obviously questioning motivations isn't stupid, but we're talking RVS here. Motivations are rarely serious. I've made a first post/vote in a game against the only person I knew, but I wasn't scum.
Any scumtells made by a given player in a given game will have been revealed through re-reads. Any scumtells that player would make that were not in said game will not be known to his friend either. I agree that it would be better to be able to interact, but it's not impossible to determine someone's play style with enough re-reading.

ElectricBadger is showing us that anyone can go and look through people's games.


Clear enough for you?

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Except that your example had a RVS despite your post.
The point I'm trying to make here is that RVS votes are intended to be catalysts for discussion, not pieces of evidence that indicate scum.

I love the RVS.

Very crafty, trying to post but still heavily lurking. How about actually talking to people or doing something constructive?

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Until Kunkstar, Cat and CSL get their heads into the game it's gonna be hard to push ANYONE's lynch. Does not help that Parts still hasn't voted yet.

Interesting. Badger is contradicting himself, and lurking.

I struggle to think of where I've seen any more hypocrisy than right here.

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Vote: CSL

How about doing something useful and giving us a better reason for voting than "I think he's hiding something"? And really, lurking? Is that the best accusation you can come up with? If you aren't scum you're just being anti-town right now.

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4 isnt bad. Ive had to do over 20 before on day 1...wasn't pretty.

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[quote="Starbuck]Why couldn't they be? Scum could make a slip at any point in the game, why couldn't they do so in RVS? [/quote]
In my experience, first page RVS votes almost never indicate scum...it is the reactions to said votes that lead to slips.

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Yeah because it definitely makes sense for scum to point out scumbuddies at the beginning of the game </sarcasm>

CSL continues to be a hypocrite.

Parts: Ignoring information that could help us, and

lack of scumhunting.

What makes you better than him?

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If I do that, then why don't you do the same thing for Parts?

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CSL, are you going to add something new at any point, or just cut and paste other peoples' comments the whole game? So far you're the sort of town who loses games.

And you believe he is town because...?

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It has crossed my mind that Ecto/Starbuck and ElectricBadger could be scumbuddies who engineered this whole thing in pregame talk to combine a buddying action by Ecto with a distancing act between Ecto and ElectricBadger.

Did scum get a chance to talk to each other before the game started?

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but

During the day you need to try and blend in, but

at night you may talk

outside the game thread.

So...before the thread opened it was night 0?

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Also, everyone else is voting people on my wagon, or calling them scum, so a vote would be even more abrupt.

Kunkstar isn't.

I would normally threaten the hammer but I'm not prepared to support a lynch favoured by the person I believe to be scummiest (CSL).

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You and CSL both are thinking Badger/XScorpion scum team huh?
@Starbuck: What's your opinion of CSL?
@CSL: What's your opinion of Starbuck?

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I'm curious as to what other links two people can have besides being scumbuddies? I was under the impression that town didn't know other town?

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And please don't dodge the question.

@Starbuck: What's your opinion of CSL?

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I would say that I'm surprised CSL dodged my question, but that would be a lie.

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My assumption was that Xscorpion joined the wagon for the same reason I did. If you're unsure, I'd suggest you ask him.

I like bandwagons in RVS, and "I plan on lurking" is always a nice reason to jump on that guy's bandwagon.

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@Josh Lyman:...what happened? Come back please?

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I forget why.

/facepalm

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When's the deadline?

January 14th, 9:00 A.M. Central, i'm giving everyone a grace period to recover from new years before i seek replacements. players prodded who don't post by sunday will be replaced.

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Oh, and EB, claiming when you are at L-1 needs to be done ASAP, because some people who will be willing to hammer will say something about you, then hammer you.

And those "some people" are obvscum, so I don't think I agree with you at all.

So let me get this straight... you're voting Parts using evidence from your ISO of Badger, without having done an ISO of Parts yet? Yeah ok.

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I never said they were 3 obvscum. Last time I checked, the 3 people voting for EB couldn't quickhammer him. A scum could.

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No, I didn't.

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It also wasn't there until between the time I clicked on "reply" and "post message".
Yes sometimes it takes me longer than 2 minutes to make a post, is that a problem?

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Scorpion, what is your take on the players so far - who's scum, who's town? Do you think CSL's actions are pro-mafia?

I don't make town lists, they don't help town.
CSL is my #1 scum obviously, and I think that his idea this game was to try to slip through everyone's viewpoints by posting very little yet enough that he isn't seen as a lurker. I add on to the fact that he just supports all the bandwagons with poor reasoning and I don't see why not to lynch him...even if he turns up town, all we lose is a weaker player.
Starbuck would be my second choice for scum...I'm really not a major fan of all the aggressive demands for claiming, especially since I don't see how a claim would help town anyway. But I'm definitely not up for lynching Starbuck as long as CSL is around...come Lylo, I want to have someone who I have a lot to read on (starbuck, as opposed to CSL).

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Yeah, I did, but I expected VT claims, not the doctor to claim.

You've been pretty aggressive with asking people to claim...did you seriously expect that everyone was going to claim VT?

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Vote:Starbuck

Really not liking how you've been so eager to get claims, and now the doc has (supposedly) been revealed thanks to your demands for everyone to claim at L-1.

If you only expected VT claims then what was the point of asking for a claim?

I also would like to know your answer to this.

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Whoa, talk about quickhammer.
@Badger: Check post 188.

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The top two potential scum on my list both died yesterday so now I'm a little disoriented. I've also realized that I really shouldn't be going in so many games at once, 3 games seems to be a little over my limit, as the argument that "I've been laid back and not scumhunting" is getting used in my other games too, so apologies for not being up to my usual standards.
I really don't see the point of a mass claim for any reason other than to reveal the cop to scum, and as such I'm very against that. Anyone care to explain the logic behind it?
Taking a random stab at a scumteam, I'm gonna guess that it's kunkstar & KDub. I'm getting a very strong town feel from Badger, and I highly doubt that Starbuck's lynch didn't have any scum on it, leaving Kunkstar the obvious choice. Not to mention that he had no non-random votes for all of day 1 except for Starbuck, which I do not like. If he was so suspicious of CSL, why did he never vote him? KDub's suggest for a mass claim earns scumpoints from me, and the fact that he put CSL at L-1 so quickly after joining is a little suspicious.
Pretty sure Badger and Alex are the other 2 town.

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Alex didn't propose a mass claim, he said that it should be done rather than a single person claiming. You are indeed suggesting a mass claim be done right now, and I am VERY disinclined to agree.

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I didn't expect CSL to hammer right after I placed the vote...Starbuck wasn't the first person at L-1, so I assumed that town wouldn't hammer unless everyone had discussed it first (as they did with CSL). Not to mention that CSL didn't even bother to ask Starbuck any questions (which might have changed CSL's mind about things, but it's too late now to know).

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Lol everyone ran away.
Should we just pick a target then lynch?
I'm up for KDub or Kunkstar, whichever you guys prefer.

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Looking it over, I realized that even if I wanted to, I can't place a vote for anyone.
Suppose Kdub is the scum. Then if Alex is NOT his partner, then one of the people who claimed to want Kdub dead will not vote for him. I also think Alex is pretty town.
Suppose Alex is scum. No one will vote him.
Suppose Badger is scum. Only Kdub would vote for him.
Suppose Kunkstar is scum. Only Alex would vote for him.
So from my point of view, I (and by extension, town) am pretty screwed. The fact that people have stopped posting here is not helping either. Is anyone still even watching this topic? No one has posted for more than 24 hours, wtf. If you're going to lynch me, hurry the hell up plz, I don't like waiting.

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Fine, I'll claim.
I'm cop, but it doesn't matter because if town doesn't kill me today, mafia will. I investigated CSL, thinking that he was lying about being a doctor and the real doctor didn't want to claim. Obviously that was stupid, but w/e, it doesn't matter anymore since I'm already dead either way.

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I played so bad
I should have bussed Kunkstar from the start
oh well, next time.