Mini #893 - Dollhouse Mafia (Game Over!)

[TheButtonmen]

Starbuck imprinting farside is totally weird.

post 580 she says nothing about farside except welcome and states her at the end of the post as the person she most wants to imprint. Reason?

Her other posts have a little QFT over farside's SC-hatred. Starbuck says she doesn't like farside's 565.

Then she imprints farside.

It doesn't seem like enough of a reason to imprint someone, especially when she doesn't only have positive things to say about farside.

-Points up at post 597 by Starbuck addressing that exact issue-

[elvis_knits]

In closing to my ever so truncated batch of posts:

If the hammer falls, no one is getting imprinted again. I'm well aware some of you think thats a feature, I personally would regard it as a bug. I don't want our first experiance with imprints to be when we are close to the wire numbers wise.

This is a bad argument.

If we lynch without imprinting and people wish we had imprinted, we can just no-lynch the next day and go right to night. There is nothing lost by lynching without imprinting, and everything to gain (as we will have another flip to look at).

In fact, imprinting before a lynch is pretty stupid. What happens if the flip were to change who we wanted to imprint? It would be too late.

This is the same BS buttonmen threw at SC for hammering Deathnote, since it prevented us from having imprints last night.

SO WHAT?

The night isn't really lost to us because we can no-lynch and go directly to night whenever we want. All SC did was prevent us from imprinting without information. All he did was give us the information of the deathnote flip to work with.

This argument by buttonmen is wrong and misleading.

[elvis_knits]

Starbuck imprinting farside is totally weird.

post 580 she says nothing about farside except welcome and states her at the end of the post as the person she most wants to imprint. Reason?

Her other posts have a little QFT over farside's SC-hatred. Starbuck says she doesn't like farside's 565.

Then she imprints farside.

It doesn't seem like enough of a reason to imprint someone, especially when she doesn't only have positive things to say about farside.

-Points up at post 597 by Starbuck addressing that exact issue-

So?

Her defense is she feels farside is pro-town.

Still no compelling reason.

[TheButtonmen]

So?

Her defense is she feels farside is pro-town.

Still no compelling reason.

Her imprinting someone she feels is pro-town is weird?

[Starbuck]

Farside is scumhunting. Far better than most other people. So therefore, I feel she is protown, although I do disagree a bit with her case me.

See, I'm not like you and SC. I can disagree with someone's case on me, but still see that they are scumhunting. Rather than, "OMG she won't follow what we say! She's scum!"

[iamausername]

-=Vote Count #18=-

Arizona (5) - Alaska, Georgia, Virginia, Kansas, Iowa
Alaska (4) - Hawaii, Colorado, Ohio, Arizona

Not Voting (2) - Florida, Montana

6 to lynch.

-=Imprint Count #18=-

Hawaii (5) - Kansas, Ohio, Montana, Hawaii, Florida
Montana (4) - Kansas, Ohio, Montana, Arizona
Florida (2) - Ohio, Florida
Colorado (2) - Ohio, Iowa
Georgia (2) - Montana, Georgia
Ohio (2) - Ohio, Arizona
Iowa (2) - Iowa, Arizona
Virginia (1) - Georgia
Arizona (1) - Arizona
Kansas (1) - Arizona
Alaska (0)

6 to imprint.

ALASKA = SerialClergyman
ARIZONA = Starbuck
COLORADO = Messiah
FLORIDA = Limerickx
GEORGIA = Plum
HAWAII = TheButtonmen
IOWA = xRECKONERx
KANSAS = farside22
MONTANA = Pug89
OHIO = Vala Mal Doran
VIRGINIA = elvis_knits

[elvis_knits]

So?

Her defense is she feels farside is pro-town.

Still no compelling reason.

Her imprinting someone she feels is pro-town is weird?

For no compelling reason.

Now starbuck says farside is scumhunting.

I disagree. For the most part she's just been arguing with me and SC and saying WIFOM a bunch of times. Recently she has begun to look at VMD. That's all I've seen.

I'm actually sort of surprised farside voted for Starbuck. She went from repeating "elvis and SC are scum, everything they say is crap sandwich (including how starbuck is scum)... and elvis is buddies with VMD" to "Look how vmd and starbuck are connected to deathnote! vote starbuck."

[elvis_knits]

buttonmen, answer my 601

[TheButtonmen]

buttonmen, answer my 601

It's a statement of your opinon not a question, what do you want answered?

[Starbuck]

The night isn't really lost to us because we can no-lynch and go directly to night whenever we want. All SC did was prevent us from imprinting without information. All he did was give us the information of the deathnote flip to work with.

The information he's been oh so sure of from the start.

So why am I getting beat over the head for my supposed defense of DeathNote when that's all Elvis and SC have been doing for each other? Since page 1, I might add.

I'd really appreciate an answer to that question from people other than Elvis and SC.

[elvis_knits]

The night isn't really lost to us because we can no-lynch and go directly to night whenever we want. All SC did was prevent us from imprinting without information. All he did was give us the information of the deathnote flip to work with.

The information he's been oh so sure of from the start.

So why am I getting beat over the head for my supposed defense of DeathNote when that's all Elvis and SC have been doing for each other? Since page 1, I might add.

I'd really appreciate an answer to that question from people other than Elvis and SC.

1) Because deathnote was scum

2) Because there was good reason to think he was scum, and you "didn't see it."

As for me and SC, he made a town tell, so that is why I am defending him.

[elvis_knits]

buttonmen, answer my 601

It's a statement of your opinon not a question, what do you want answered?

Why do you/did you think that we should imprint before seeing the flip?

The flip gives us more information on who to imprint, and the chance to imprint is not lost to us since we can no-lynch and go to night any time we want.

Why would you prefer to imprint before getting extra info?

[Starbuck]

Where "didn't I see" that he was scum?

Also for that matter, I have quite a number of questions based towards you in my catch up posts. I'd greatly appreciate it if you didn't ignore them.

[farside22]

So?

Her defense is she feels farside is pro-town.

Still no compelling reason.

Her imprinting someone she feels is pro-town is weird?

For no compelling reason.

Now starbuck says farside is scumhunting.

I disagree. For the most part she's just been arguing with me and SC and saying WIFOM a bunch of times. Recently she has begun to look at VMD. That's all I've seen.

I'm actually sort of surprised farside voted for Starbuck. She went from repeating "elvis and SC are scum, everything they say is crap sandwich (including how starbuck is scum)... and elvis is buddies with VMD" to "Look how vmd and starbuck are connected to deathnote! vote starbuck."

I never said you were both scum. I said one of you was and I have even gone further in it calling SC blind to you as I believe you (EK) to be that scum. And I didn't say anything about the SB case till recently
Thanks for the misrep.

[Starbuck]

Welcome to what I've been dealing with, Farside.

Constant misrepresentations.

[Messiah]

unvote, vote: Starbuck

Her "I don't see where I defended him" defense isn't very persuasive.

[SerialClergyman]

SerialClergyman loves your balls, Messiah.

You also joined on my birthday, I see. Good man.

Care to spill the beans now you've been hammered, Starbuck?

[Starbuck]

I am town and my flip hopefully will cause your death.

[Starbuck]

This has been the most opportunistic scum game that I have ever seen. Great job and bussing guys.

Town, you really need to smarten up and stop letting scum lead the way.

[Starbuck]

unvote, vote: Starbuck

Her "I don't see where I defended him" defense isn't very persuasive.

Because I didn't defend him. I was attacking SC and Elvis, but apparently you are too easily blinded by them to think for yourself.

[Starbuck]

Also town, once my flip shows that I am truly one of your own, please go back and re-read everything that I have said.

And for the record, SC, Deathnotescum DOES NOT EQUAL Starbuckscum.


Prepare yourselves for SC and Elvis to go, "But she was so scummy" and "I never thought she could be town". How does it feel to be wrong?

Elvis, I hope this game alone makes you think twice about my alignment now, since this is the 2nd game we played together and you think you know my meta so well.

[farside22]

But what about the second attempt - Iam created a 'if noone dies in three days it's a draw' rule and I suggest being able to never imprint anyone and if things look like we're in lylo and going to lose we just vote to no kill 3 times and it's a draw

I do see the draw rule as not really a town favorable thing. As what good does a draw do for the town that it does not do for the scum


Also I would like the answers to my question I asked in post: 556



@buttonman: VMD says she has a neutral read from 183. I"m asking if SC's not on SB changes anything on her view.

[Messiah]

Because I didn't defend him. I was attacking SC and Elvis, but apparently you are too easily blinded by them to think for yourself.

Heh, maybe. I've wanted SC lynched since day 1, but his posts following DN's flip felt sincere to me at the time and that was enough to temporarily
"blind" me, I guess. I don't plan on making that mistake again.

[xRECKONERx]

Imprint: Buttomen, Pug

[TheButtonmen]

unvote, vote: Starbuck

Her "I don't see where I defended him" defense isn't very persuasive.

...Did you read her posts yourself or just what SC / Elvis said about them?