Mini 891 - British Comedy Mafia (Game Over)

[Budja]

Your twice on my list due to bad editing . Just read the expanded one.
I don't particular want to expand further, I'd prefer to keep my views succinct. If theres anything in particular which bothers you, ask me.

What really matters IMO is who I think is scum. Josh's claim is vague and does nothing to change my mind. I await his further explanation.

@China, Josh is a pretty easy wagon to join, the fact Snow is instead pushing my, not so easy, wagon makes her more likely town. A bit WIFOMic I know, but my "gut" town read leans this way rather than the other.

[Josh Lyman]

My name is Richard Curtis, and my 'special ability' stems from my recent work not being the same standard as my earlier work, my recent movie The Boat That Rocked was so devoid of life that I now have the power to suck the life out of one player of my choosing. Said player can then still post, but has no life; therefore, is dead.

[Budja]

So you are a one-shot ability to turn a player into a "treestump"?

Does you know if your ability gives an alignment flip?

[BloodCovenent]

So you can take the vote away from a specific player.

That does the town absolutely no good. If you apply that to a town player, then they cannot help in LyLo. Therefore town loses. If you apply that to scum, they probably still have their night kill, making LyLo situations a little bit more bearable, but their is still all the WIFOM.

[BloodCovenent]

So you are a one-shot ability to turn a player into a "treestump"?

Does you know if your ability gives an alignment flip?

"Oh what's you're role name"

"I'm a lumberjack!"

[Josh Lyman]

So you are a one-shot ability to turn a player into a "treestump"?

Does you know if your ability gives an alignment flip?

I don't know.

So you can take the vote away from a specific player.

That does the town absolutely no good. If you apply that to a town player, then they cannot help in LyLo. Therefore town loses. If you apply that to scum, they probably still have their night kill, making LyLo situations a little bit more bearable, but their is still all the WIFOM.

No, the player I would choose would be dead for all game purposes, it says, except still being able to talk in the thread.

[BloodCovenent]

Regardless, he would still be able to talk with his scum team. Unless he became the last member of the scum team.

Aside from using it to test your theory, I think it would be a horrible idea to put that role into play. Because eventually, players would get the mindset "oh we should just lynch him because he's useless." Which I think is a very sad excuse for a lynch.

You never answered my question. Is it a day or night action.

[Netopalis]

So there would still be a role flip.

That could...that could actually be exceptionally good for the town. If it's used, we have a pro-town analyzer without concerns of conflict of interest or a, for all practical purposes, dead scum.

[BloodCovenent]

So there would still be a role flip.

Where did you get that from?

[imaginality]

I'm with Netopalis on this. If we hit scum with it, it's effectively a vig shot. If we hit town, they can spend the rest of their game scumhunting to the best of their abilities without worrying about being nightkilled.

If we use it we should probably use it on someone who's (a) smart, (b) under suspicion, (c) doesn't claim a power role. If it's a day power that would be better, easier to direct.

'dead for all game purposes' suggests to me there more likely would be an alignment flip than not?

[BloodCovenent]

I'm with Netopalis on this. If we hit scum with it, it's effectively a vig shot. If we hit town, they can spend the rest of their game scumhunting to the best of their abilities without worrying about being nightkilled.

If we use it we should probably use it on someone who's (a) smart, (b) under suspicion, (c) doesn't claim a power role. If it's a day power that would be better, easier to direct.

'dead for all game purposes' suggests to me there more likely would be an alignment flip than not?

Please don't answer for Netpolis. I would like to see where he learned the idea where we would get an alignment flip.

[Netopalis]

No, the player I would choose would be dead for all game purposes, it says, except still being able to talk in the thread.

This is where I got that from. "For all game purposes", I would assume, includes a role flip.

[BloodCovenent]

damn you imaginality.... you spoon fed him an answer.

[Josh Lyman]

Regardless, he would still be able to talk with his scum team. Unless he became the last member of the scum team.

Aside from using it to test your theory, I think it would be a horrible idea to put that role into play. Because eventually, players would get the mindset "oh we should just lynch him because he's useless." Which I think is a very sad excuse for a lynch.

You never answered my question. Is it a day or night action.

I apologize for missing that -- it's a night action.

[Netopalis]

Spoon fed me an answer? Where else would I find this from? What are you implying?

[BloodCovenent]

Spoon fed me an answer? Where else would I find this from? What are you implying?

That you possibly schemed up this claim.

[Netopalis]

Oh, please. I'm no idiot...Check my recent games. I play much better than that as scum. The only reason that I've not been as good in this game is because I've had finals.

Seriously, though, I think that this is an incredibly unlikely fakeclaim....

[Josh Lyman]

Spoon fed me an answer? Where else would I find this from? What are you implying?

That you possibly schemed up this claim.

Since we're in Day One, please tell me how HE could have cooked up a scheme that I just claimed? I don't follow.

[BloodCovenent]

Spoon fed me an answer? Where else would I find this from? What are you implying?

That you possibly schemed up this claim.

Since we're in Day One, please tell me how HE could have cooked up a scheme that I just claimed? I don't follow.

Either scum day talk or pre-game discussion regarding "If I had to Claim" situations.

It's rather pheasable.

so Josh, does your "ability" flip alignment?

[Budja]

Eh, I'm believing it. Net is right, it is odd for a fakeclaim.

I assumed their would be an alignment flip but it is better to ask.

If we use it we should probably use it on someone who's (a) smart, (b) under suspicion, (c) doesn't claim a power role. If it's a day power that would be better, easier to direct.

I like this ^.

BC's accusation is a bit hard to swallow .

[Netopalis]

Pheasable? And no, it's really not. That's a really, really odd role which would be a horrible fakeclaim because it cannot be easily faked. Roleblocker, cop, tracker and doc can all be faked. However, this one cannot because, unless Lyman is roleblocked, we will know whether or not he was telling the truth.

[Snow_Bunny]

Scum is known to claim everything. Including horrible and non-easily faked claims. Just outing this.

I don't like the claim (but it can be true), but I still think Josh is town playing poorly.

[BloodCovenent]

Pheasable? And no, it's really not. That's a really, really odd role which would be a horrible fakeclaim because it cannot be easily faked. Roleblocker, cop, tracker and doc can all be faked. However, this one cannot because, unless Lyman is roleblocked, we will know whether or not he was telling the truth.

I just hope you remember, this is a themed game, anything could happen. There really isn't much that you should be predicting. Also, now that you brought up the theory of a roleblocker, you also just gave him a wifomy way of making it to day two without really having to actually "prove" his claim.

Besides, something similar to his "role" happened in Battle Mafia. DTM lost his vote, and basically had the same qualities as would the result of Josh's target. I'm just saying, anything is possible. Don't limit things in a themed game.

[Netopalis]

It's possible, but it's highly improbable. Scum have nothing to gain from a claim like this. Besides, it's testable. If he fails the test, lynch him. Pretty simple.

[Netopalis]

Lyman: Please ask for mod clarification on the flip issue.

BC: I can't predict what roles will be present, but I DO know that scum in general like safer claims that are more close to the norm. If his action doesn't go through either from the fact that he's scum or he's roleblocked, then we're no worse off lynching him tomorrow than we are lynching him today.