Deadline wrote:
I didn't want to be part of a lynch that I didn't believe in. If you remember correctly, I gave no reason for voting him. My vote was merely to apply some pressure. He reacted in a townie way, so I unvoted him when I could. I didn't actively try not to get a lynch, any number of the other players cause have voted.Michel wrote: Haylen, why on earth did you unvote in post #227? 1 day before deadline (with no lynch if there is no clear majority) is NOT the moment to be worried about mafia quicklynching.
First of all, Haylen, would you agree with me that any lynch on someone other then yourself is better then no lynch day 1? Because that is my basis of operating here, and is why I tend to believe that "I didn't want to be part of a lynch that I didn't believe in" isn't a valid excuse not to vote. I also didn't want to see Nachomamma lynched. But if he was the only option that guaranteed a lynch, I would have hammered him instantly.Haylen wrote:I didn't want to be part of a lynch that I didn't believe in. If you remember correctly, I gave no reason for voting him. My vote was merely to apply some pressure. He reacted in a townie way, so I unvoted him when I could.
I accused you of actively trying to not get a lynch. In order words, you took actions that would lead to a no lynch. I am making this accusation because of the second part of post #227. In it, you encourage the other players NOT to vote people, because putting someone on L-1 risks a mafia quicklynch. 1 day from deadline, with a lynch sorely needed, that is not something that should be a concern.Haylen wrote:I didn't actively try not to get a lynch, any number of the other players cause have voted.
Yesterday, when deadline loomed closer and closer, it was necessary to take the lead, in order to actually try to get a lynch. In despite of me trying to lead the town, we still failed to lynch. If anything, I didn't lead the town enough then.Haylen wrote:You seem to be using your IC status in order to lead the town Michel. That isn't nice. I never take kindly to people who try to lead the town...
What I don't understand though is why you didn't see it coming. TBB had not contributed anything whatsoever, and had only posted once every two or three days. Why did you figure he would come online and vote in those short four hours we had remaining? Didn't you consider at all what would happen if he wouldn't show up?Sposh wrote:That was sort of my reasoning... I just figured everyone would vote before deadline I didn't know people would completely lurk their way into a no lynch! But at least I was voting... Haylen was not!
So if I had changed my vote to Nacho we would have had a lynch?Jase wrote:Sable: I came on line some time after you had logged off I think.
Why're you talking to yourself?broncofaninmd wrote:Bronco, did you consider who might be able to hammer when you voted? Who did you expect to hammer TBB?
Michel, I looked at the thread and choose TBB. He has actively lurked the whole game, not provided any information to the game. Yes, I considered who would hammer, when I voted there were equal chance for both. I went with who I think is scum.
It isn't just the number of players who could hammer. It also matters who exactly they are. If you had voted Nachomamma, the players who could have hammered were Haylen, TBB (inactive), Jase (said he would hammer to guarantee a lynch) and me (said I would hammer to guarantee a lynch). Now, the players with the opportunity to hammer were Haylen, Sposh (had recently joined Nacho's wagon), Bwian (Replaced in recently, no comment on deadline lynch) and Foilist (active, but no comments on a deadline lynch). Which of those two sets looks more likely to hammer? And out of the four players who could hammer, who did you expect to actually pull the trigger?Bronco wrote:Michel, I looked at the thread and choose TBB. He has actively lurked the whole game, not provided any information to the game. Yes, I considered who would hammer, when I voted there were equal chance for both. I went with who I think is scum.
I voted in the morning before I went to work. I didn't know that the players would completely ignore the most important part of day one. I was confident with the argument that Nacho made, atleast one of the players would change there vote. That being said, If I knew that everyone would blow it off, I would of voted Nacho.MichelSableheart wrote:@Sposh: he isn't talking to himself, he just forgot to put quote tags around what I said.
It isn't just the number of players who could hammer. It also matters who exactly they are. If you had voted Nachomamma, the players who could have hammered were Haylen, TBB (inactive), Jase (said he would hammer to guarantee a lynch) and me (said I would hammer to guarantee a lynch). Now, the players with the opportunity to hammer were Haylen, Sposh (had recently joined Nacho's wagon), Bwian (Replaced in recently, no comment on deadline lynch) and Foilist (active, but no comments on a deadline lynch). Which of those two sets looks more likely to hammer? And out of the four players who could hammer, who did you expect to actually pull the trigger?Bronco wrote:Michel, I looked at the thread and choose TBB. He has actively lurked the whole game, not provided any information to the game. Yes, I considered who would hammer, when I voted there were equal chance for both. I went with who I think is scum.
Haven't played in a year, but our last game HoHum was an IC and lead the town by the nose and almost won as scum. Nacho had reasons for everything he did.Jase wrote:Sposh: What about the nacho wagon made it more attractive than the bean wagon?
Bwain: I want your take on the events of day 1.
BeanBurrito: I also want your take on day 1. It doesn't matter if it's already been said, just say it again in your own words.
Haylen: Knowing what you know now, how would you change your activities from day 1?
Nacho: You spent a lot of late D1 defending yourself. As such I don't quite know who you're suspicious of. Any comments?
Bronco: What do you think of nachos claim that the anti town positions he took where meant to scumhunt sable?
Sable: What are the pros and cons of a no lynch today?
It's easy! I just never saw the case behind TBB, but Nacho had my eye the entire day.Jase wrote:Sposh: What about the nacho wagon made it more attractive than the bean wagon?
Bwain: I want your take on the events of day 1.
BeanBurrito: I also want your take on day 1. It doesn't matter if it's already been said, just say it again in your own words.
Haylen: Knowing what you know now, how would you change your activities from day 1?
Nacho: You spent a lot of late D1 defending yourself. As such I don't quite know who you're suspicious of. Any comments?
Bronco: What do you think of nachos claim that the anti town positions he took where meant to scumhunt sable?
Sable: What are the pros and cons of a no lynch today?
