Kmd4390 wrote:Excedrin wrote:Alright, so, I thought that there was a chance that Kmd4390 was bussed with someone else or I was redirected or whatever. Since nobody has claimed that and I'm not lying about my results, I have to conclude that he's actually in an Ur-Quan Dread.
Vote: Kmd4390
If you're town, scum aren't going to tell us if they fucked with your result. Kast has info against you anyway though, so I doubt you're town.
Yea, Kast's "info" is pretty weak. It's weird that he's not busting out some if A and B then not C stuff to explain it.
It looks like his case is:
1. I could have been killed and reincarnated, explaining lack of death on night 1
2. Excedrin shouldn't have gotten mod confirmation of my ability
3. I must have blocked his racial ability and therefore prevented the kill (oops forgot about #1), since that would explain why he got mod confirmation of my ability
So, if there's 2 scum, Rising is confirmed town, Rising clears Papa Zito (based on Papa Zito's ability to swap players between ships), I clear Kast based on the idea that he is Pkunk because I know where the Umgah caster is, but unfortunately he blocked someone who's dead, so we don't have another person vouching for him.
Kmd4390 is on a ship that can absorb energy (but has no active abilities that use energy) that was targetted last night (by either Excedrin, Kast or Rising). Rising has no active abilities. Kast made a big deal about not being able to use 2 abilities in one night, but has also claimed only the broadcast / insult ability, so even aside from the message I got from him on n1, it seems unlikely that he's scum. So, if I targeted Kmd4390 and he absorbed the energy, then the ship I'm on would be capable of targeting 3 players in one night (Plum, Locke Lamora and Kmd4390).
One possibility is that Kmd4390's ship does have some ability to absorb energy and he thought he could prevent my scan from working, since he thought it was a ship based ability. There's nothing in SC2 about Ur-Quan Dreadnoughts that says they should have this.
I could include some wild speculation about there being a Chenjesu ship since Porkens flipped Chenjesu (that scum can use?), but I don't think it helps.
Rising wrote:If KMD and I were scumbuddies, I would have hammered you when you were at L-1. That you're suspecting me in an unlikely scumpairing makes me FOS: Excedrin.
I wasn't suspecting you, I was saying that because you didn't hammer, it makes you obvtown, which makes me question the 2 scum idea.
Rising wrote:What makes you think that, exactly? Is it only because he used that ability on you, and you're sure he's not an Umgah since you're in possession of the Umgah caster?
Yea, I basically have mod confirmation of his race. I suppose it's possible that he has some other ability that allows him to broadcast messages (and roleblock?). But the first scenario, that he's actually Pkunk and actually has this insult+rb ability seems more likely. That I got flavor saying what his ability does and he sees that as proof that I'm lying seems like he's trying to read things in a too-logical, too-precise manner.
Papa Zito wrote:Thematical is one part, at least for me. More important is his backtracking regarding Kast's insult power.
Where did I backtrack? The part I didn't want to reveal was that I have the Umgah broadcaster.
