Mini 856 - Star Control: Zeta Sextantis - Over

[Papa Zito]

-To be clear, Rising and Zito sound like they are claiming masons or something to that effect. This implies that they are either telling the truth OR they are scum together.

Rising and I have a QT. Plum and I have a separate one. We could talk in those QTs any time we wished.

[Kast]

@KMD-
How can you not think Excedrin is not scum when he says he investigated you and that you are on a ship you claim to not be on?

[Kast]

@Dead players-
Btw-everyone was incinerated, I assume this is different from Asphyxiated, and implies that Porkens and Sigma were each rescued.

From Zito's claim, it makes sense that Plum tried to rescue Sigma, and by elimination that would leave LL as a rescuer for Porkens.

I'm not sure how plausible it is that scum could potentially kill two ships in a night, but I suppose with a townie vig + two roleblockers, that is more feasible than a more standard game.

@Zito-
Is your QT an ability you have or just something resulting from having a player on your ship?

[Papa Zito]

It's just from being on the ship together.

[Papa Zito]

Also, Plum was going to try to pick them all up. One of the features of her ship was the ability to priority pickup anyone floating in space (to test them all at once). I have a feeling she was successful, but then was blasted.

[Excedrin]

-Excedrin claimed Umgah (Hierarchy).

Uh, no, I'm Zoq-Fot-Pik (alliance) on an Umgah (hierarchy) ship.

I'm also a bit confused by Excedrin's claim. He says the Hyperwave Broadcaster lets him send an anonymous message to anyone and nullify, but then he says he has an ability to scan and nullify.
-Is the scanning supposed to be equivalent to the communicating?
-I don't see anything in the claim explaining why Excedrin can use 2 active abilities in 1 night. Why is this possible?
-It also sounds like he is claiming to think that my ability let him use his two abilities with only 1 energy cost. Is this what you are trying to say?

Given this pilot in this ship, I have:
1. pilot ability (scan)
2. ship ability (nullify)
3. racial ship ability (broadcast) (that I can't use)

scan doesn't use energy. nullify and broadcast each use 1 energy.
On night 1, I got a scan result and a nullify result (I assume that, because I lost energy, nullify worked). This is why I was confused about your roleblock ability, because I expected no results. Flavor for the reason why I was not blocked was due to the simplicity of my ship. After night one I had 1 unit of energy left.
On night 2, I got a scan result only, pm says I went to nullify and noticed no energy.

nullify is related to the anti-matter cone. It's not related to the broadcaster at all.

If nobody else targetted Kmd4390, I'm not sure what explains his claimed result of +3 energy. My scan should have given him zero energy since it doesn't use energy.

-Why did you pick your claimed night targets?

I picked LL for block because you were presumably not going to block him. I didn't want to block the same target, that was based on how I read your response to my question regarding your 3rd suspect.

-Why do you claim to know what KMD's ship is, but you only told us that RC's ship was red?

I knew what RC's ship was too, there's not much point in saying it now. I didn't reveal it yesterday because I expected RC to explain instead of not showing up at all.

[Kast]

Okay.

Vote: Excedrin

In case my post was not clear:
-What do you think the effect of my insult is?
-Explain the discrepancy between your claimed ability of anonymous communication and your claimed night action of scanning ships.

[Kast]

oops ninja's let me read your post...

[Kast]

UNVOTE

Actually hold on gonna re-read your post. I don't think I saw that scan ability...

Also, Zito explain this?

This is interesting. I've started thinking that too.

[Papa Zito]

Also, Zito explain this?

This is interesting. I've started thinking that too.

I was attempting to save Plum's life. Nobody was suspecting her, so I threw that out at the last second in hopes it would divert the scum from attacking her.

[Kast]

@Excedrin-
Okay, my mistake. I misread your claim. So you are claiming 1 Active Pilot Ability and 2 Active Ship Abilities. You claim you used 2 abilities per night. How is this possible?

On night 1, I got a scan result and a nullify result (I assume that, because I lost energy, nullify worked).

This is why I was confused about your roleblock ability, because I expected no results. Flavor for the reason why I was not blocked was due to the simplicity of my ship.

After night one I had 1 unit of energy left.
On night 2, I got a scan result only, pm says I went to nullify and noticed no energy.

-Thanks, I am very glad for the clarifications.

-If you really didn't use a racial ability (hyperwave broadcaster), then you would not have been informed that I have a roleblocking ability. You would also not be informed any flavor on why my blocking did not affect you.

Apparently you didn't realize that my roleblock only works on Racial Abilities (perhaps N1 you only used a racial ability?)

[Kast]

Vote: Excedrin

[Excedrin]

Okay, my mistake. I misread your claim. So you are claiming 1 Active Pilot Ability and 2 Active Ship Abilities. You claim you used 2 abilities per night. How is this possible?

First, I decided what I wanted to do, then I sent a pm to SpyreX.

-If you really didn't use a racial ability (hyperwave broadcaster), then you would not have been informed that I have a roleblocking ability. You would also not be informed any flavor on why my blocking did not affect you.

Apparently you didn't realize that my roleblock only works on Racial Abilities (perhaps N1 you only used a racial ability?)

Flavor for your ability was that it made me very mad, but that, due to simple ship, it didn't interfere with my results, I surmised that your ability was probably a roleblock.

I used 2 actions and got 2 results:
1. scan, result: Rosso Carne is on a red Yehat Terminator
2. nullify, result: -1 energy

[Excedrin]

Flavor for your ability was that it made me very mad, but that, due to simple ship, it didn't interfere with my results, I surmised that your ability was probably a roleblock.

Ah, I also thought that it was probably due to being a role blocker (nullify is basically roleblock) myself. I'm used to mechanics where role blockers are block immune, and I tried to hint at that in previous day here:

#544
Also, I realized why I was uncertain about your ability (effects are known to target, but can you imagine a case where, in a more traditional theme game, something like your ability might behave differently than expected?)

[Kmd4390]

Rising, it's the fact that he saw Rosso on a red ship and Rosso was town. It confirms his ability. I don't think that ability would benefit scum.

Kast, are you saying Excedrin should have been blocked when he got the Rosso result?

I don't nullify anything. Just absorb the energy.

Rising and I have a QT. Plum and I have a separate one. We could talk in those QTs any time we wished.

*Headscratch*

*Starts to wonder if you are confusing Keelie and Plum*

@KMD-
How can you not think Excedrin is not scum when he says he investigated you and that you are on a ship you claim to not be on?

Because someone else targeted me and isn't claiming to have done so. Zito saying he "switched" players sounds like a busdriver being untruthful about his target or something. Or maybe Excedrin is lying. In that case, you are no longer confirmed. So many possibilities... But if Excedrin is lying, who targeted me? 3 units of energy targeted me. Excedrin didn't have the energy to use all 3, or so he claims. Damn, I'm lost now.

it doesn't use energy.

What the hell did scum do that uses 3 units?!?

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This game hurts my head. Excedrin says he targeted me, but used no energy. Scum must have done something powerful, so it's plausible that they have a busdrive ability or maybe a framer or something. Meh, Excedrin is probably still town unless Kast says he blocked him N1.

Pending Kast's answer, I'm leaning either a Rising/Zito pair or a mindfuck.

[Papa Zito]

Recap

Papa Zito

- has claimed Earthling. The Earthling has no claimed racial ability.
- has claimed a Precursor ship. The claimed Precursor ship can swap people between ships.
- says he swapped Rising and Plum N1, then Plum and Rising N2. Rising has confirmed.

Excedrin

- has claimed Zoq-Fot-Pik. The ZFP can scan ships and get blueprints.
- has claimed an Umgah Drone. The claimed Umgah Drone can use its Caster to send messages and RB targets.
- scanned and RB'd Rosso N1
- scanned Kmd and nullified Locke, but Locke RB failed

Kmd

- has claimed Utwig. The Utwig has no claimed racial ability.
- has claimed Utwig Jugger. The claimed Jugger can absorb energy directed at it.
- 0 energy was absorbed N1, 3 energy was absorbed N2.

Rising

- has claimed Melnorme. The Melnorme's claimed racial ability is to regenerate a ship's energy. (Zito can confirm the ability though not the race)
- has claimed he started without a ship.
- said he joined Papa Zito on Day 1. Zito has confirmed this.

Kast

- has claimed Pkunk. The Pkunk's racial ability is to possibly come back to life if killed.
- has claimed a Pkunk Fury. The Fury's claimed ability is to insult/roleblock a target's racial ability. Target is aware of a successful roleblock.
- Insulted/RBed Excedrin N1, and Locke N2. Excedrin confirmed the N1 action.

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Did I miss anything? Also Kmd does the Utwig have a racial ability?

[SpyreX]

Votecount

Kmd4390 (0)
Papa Zito (0)

Excedrin (1): Kast

Rising (0)
Kast (0):

Not Voting (4): Kmd4390, Papa Zito, Excedrin, Rising

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!

Deadline: Sunday, October 25th, 1030 PM PST

[Papa Zito]

Rising and I have a QT. Plum and I have a separate one. We could talk in those QTs any time we wished.

*Headscratch*

*Starts to wonder if you are confusing Keelie and Plum*

Wat? No.

- D0 Rising appears on my ship.
- D1 we talk
- N1 I swap him and Plum
- D2 Plum and I talk
- N2 I swap Rising and Plum again
- D3 Rising and I talk

[Papa Zito]

What the hell did scum do that uses 3 units?!?

I suspect our Shofixti friend used his Glory Device.

[Kmd4390]

Zito, clarify what you mean by "swapping".

Your recap also forgot my batteries that can hold any amount of energy.

And the absorption shield is listed as RA, so I assume that means racial ability.

[Kmd4390]

Rising and I have a QT. Plum and I have a separate one. We could talk in those QTs any time we wished.

*Headscratch*

*Starts to wonder if you are confusing Keelie and Plum*

Wat? No.

- D0 Rising appears on my ship.
- D1 we talk
- N1 I swap him and Plum
- D2 Plum and I talk
- N2 I swap Rising and Plum again
- D3 Rising and I talk

^Didn't understand my implication.

[Papa Zito]

Zito, clarify what you mean by "swapping".

I can target, say, you and Excedrin.

You will suddenly wake up on Excedrin's ship.
Excedrin will suddenly wake up on your ship.

1. Your recap also forgot my batteries that can hold any amount of energy.

And the absorption shield is listed as RA, so I assume that means racial ability.

1. Okay.
2. What's your ship's ability then? Or it has none?

[Kmd4390]

What the hell did scum do that uses 3 units?!?

I suspect our Shofixti friend used his Glory Device.

What does this mean in English?

[Papa Zito]

What the hell did scum do that uses 3 units?!?

I suspect our Shofixti friend used his Glory Device.

What does this mean in English?

The Shofixti ship is absolute crap.

BUT it has a self-destruct mechanism that, if it's close enough to even the largest ships, will take them out too.

[Kmd4390]

I can target, say, you and Excedrin.

You will suddenly wake up on Excedrin's ship.
Excedrin will suddenly wake up on your ship.

And you would get a QT with who? Does this affect anyone's results on either Excedrin or myself?

1. Okay.
2. What's your ship's ability then? Or it has none?

All of my abilities are listed under the ship. The shield has RA before it.