Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)
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I really really really want a couple daykills right about now... Doombunny's asking absolutely pointless questions is obviously a front to appear to be scumhunting when not actually doing so.
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I want Saber/SSK dead, but we'll give SSK a chance to say something (anything). Looker I also want dead as I've never seen somebody be so unhelpful in my mafiascum career. Well, I have, but they were all scum.
Clearly I can't convince anybody to switch from either of the candidates to Looker, so I'll wait for him tomorrow; hope that SSK dies due to Saber's actions and lynch DB today. To me, this seems like the best course of action.I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Assuming we're wrong about both saber and doom (which is unlikely, but possible). Mods *plan and balance the game* based on worst case scenarios. Lynching townie, vigging townie, and scum nk'ing townie *are planned for* if the mod *and the mod's reviewers* have an IQ over like 6. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. I can assure you that it's planned for and balanced. I can guarantee that if Net is 1-shot, his 1-shot hitting town is planned for. I will bet anything you want on it; both because I know how Kairyuu plays, and he's not that stupid. For two people to perform the same uncommonly stupid mistake; by not allowing the town to make any mistakes is ridiculous to the point of impossibility.
Let me put this another way. If we wait with the vig, and later on *hit a townie anyways*, it's no different than to hit one now. FFS is this hard to understand? I realize you're new to the site, but what I'm saying makes perfect sense.
To get rid of our 2nd suspect (widely considered here) now allows us to have *everyone* come in and put in their opinions tomorrow on the flips and who else looks to be scum. If we leave the other alive, we'll all just bandwagon him anyways as they're still the most scummy person around; and we've wasted a day.
Do you understand what I'm saying now?I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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This is rediculous. What Amished, makes you so eager to want to lynch us all? (me, saber, looker) you're acting like you did when you came back from your V/LA. Also, since it seems as if I'm going to die (either lynched or NKed, that is, if Neto doesn't object) I see no reason why I shouldn't claim right now. Everyone ok with that? If there are no objections I'll be doing that soon.-
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@Chaco: Does it cut down our time any more than if we make Net wait and then possibly screw up later and shoot a townie? The outcome will still be the same. However, this gives us *more time* to evaluate Net's claim.
@Doom: I feel you're all scum for reasons I've provided in thread. If you'd actually like to defend your actions, go for it. Otherwise keep acting like scum and ignoring it. I don't care if you claim now.I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Because the only reason I see for you not wanting us to vig the other of whoever gets lynched is that you're partners with them, or you're partnered with net (who's lying then in this case) and you don't want to out them as an only killing role (highly unlikely).I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Why don't we wait for Neto to speak up about this matter? (his vig shots)
Can you please summerize these reasons for me because the big ones I'm seeing now areAmished wrote:@Doom: I feel you're all scum for reasons I've provided in thread. If you'd actually like to defend your actions, go for it.
1.Joking, One post I did this, if you want to have a big discussion about this go ahead but I'm still just going to stand by my statement: This is a worthless arguement
2.Not contributing, I feel like I've been contributing. I don't see any way you could have gotten this.
3.Protecting saber, I protected saber for the same reasons I'm protecting myself, saber had horrible reasons against him and I wanted to lynch other people than him
Anyway, I am Sir Integra Hellsing, leader of the war against vampires, and an informed townie meaning at the end of every night I get to know how many vampires are alive because I am so awesome at recognizing them. The end.-
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1) counterclaim anybody? This is fully a flavor claim that I expect to be in the theme; so without CC I believe he's telling the truth.
2) knowing the story behind the theme, I'm trying to figure out how your ability actually helps. We can guess the number of scum anyways, and I don't expect all vampires to be evil either. Pointless, but the flavor is enough to prevent me from voting for him for now.I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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It's not that I don't agree with your logic, it just makes me uneasy. I don't like the thought of losing 3, or possibly even 4 players, of a 12 player game in one full cycle. I just don't like it. Because, there is not enough information out about those players to safely make connections between them and other players. Thus leaving us in the dark about them, and can possibly go bad from that point on.Amished wrote:But *why*? Do you not agree with my logic? Specifically my point about vigging a townie later in the game rather than now?
To an extent your post was tunneling. Anyways, no it's none of that. As I've said, and to reiterate, I find it ill advised and a bad play. Why? Because losing a 1/3 or 1/4 of the game in one cycleAmished wrote:Because the only reason I see for you not wanting us to vig the other of whoever gets lynched is that you're partners with them, or you're partnered with net (who's lying then in this case) and you don't want to out them as an only killing role (highly unlikely).good. You say it's balanced. Balanced doesn't mean in town's favor.is not-
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Balanced means that if the worst case scenario happens, the town still has opportunity to win.
Fine, say that we don't vig anybody tonight.
We lose 1/6th of our population (lynch and scum kill). We're then at 10 people.
Say we mislynch tomorrow, and we want to vig then (and say the vig misses). The scum will still kill, losing 3. 3/10 is 30%; which impact's the game more than 3/12 that we'd have today. Your logic with your math just doesn't follow. The vig should never kill in case he misses? That's on par that we should never lynch in case we screw up!I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Care to unvote then Chaco?
Also, playing while moody is probably your worst decision that you could make for whatever alignment you are. As town it causes a distraction and makes a lot of plays look scummy, and as scum it makes you look scummy which obviously you don't want to do.
Hell, take this last page. You've said you were defending Saber because he was being attacked for weak reasons, but then YOU VOTE FOR HIM for no other reason than saying that it's the play of the day. *%&$#%yu$#)*%()&#$%&@*()#)$^ BLARGH.I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Not what I said, and you know it. If not, you should. If you don't get what I mean, so be it. I'm not going to continuously explain my stance if it falls on deaf ears as it seems to be.Amished wrote:The vig should never kill in case he misses? That's on par that we should never lynch in case we screw up!
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