elvis_knits wrote:Chamber was replaced but the player slot is not dead. If you're saying chamber wagon was bad and he's town, then you're saying zazie is town too.
I concede the point.
If you are a fan of people defending each other what makes budja commenting on an attack on me a scummy thing? I'm sure there are lots of other instances throughout the game of people doing similar things. So what makes this one worthy of comment and condemnation above all others?
This is the way I tihnk about it:
it is beneficial for scum to protect their scumpartners. This stops them from being lynched. It is beneficial for town to protect people they believe are town. This makes it more likely for scum to be lynched. If someone is protecting scum, this therefore makes them more likely to be scum. If I see a defence of a player I believe to be scummy by a player I believe to be scummy, I see this as evidence of a likely link - with the caveta that until I know the alignment of the defended player it's not too significant.
As for why weak attacks are more significant:
Imagine the following situation. A well respected player generally considered to look pro-town delivers a strong case (with several observations you know are actually true) on a scumpartner. Are you going to defend your scumpartner?
What about the following scenario: a scummy looking player delivers a weak yet legitimate barb at your scumpartner. You know if players follow up on paying attention to him, he could be in trouble. Do you defend him?
I'd say it would be far more likely in the second case than in the first. Indeed, at times in the past I have deliberately held back the stronger parts of my cases in order to draw reactions to the weaker parts before revealing my full hand, and I have caught scum that way.
Also, as to why it shouldn't impact a townie's play: he should only be worried about being linked to scum if he believes he is defending scum. If he believes that, why is he defending him?
I agree you only mentioned the one horrible argument about scum buddies. Is that "too much"? You decide.
1) it's not a horrible argument. I've given my side of this, you have yet to give yours. Please do so.
2) it's not the only reason I suspect these players.
I was more thinking that I didn't like your comments because of this part of my arguments:
me! wrote:noticing a connection between two players should not be the basis for thinking they're both scum
Which isn't what I said, so this is bull.
And everyone else is either riding EK's coattails or referencing the hammer. I'd like everyone to have more suspicions than just me even if I do get lynched today, so that there's some room for some actual analysis. Top 2 scummiest players please, everyone.