/in-vitational 3: Brass & Shrapnel. Over. before 831

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:13 am

meh, really I am just waiting for Poro and CDB to provide content...

or to be replace.

leaving for the weekend.

Porochaz · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:11 pm

Hi guys. Ill be honest I havent looked at this game at all. I want to remain within it. Howeber I am honest in that nothing of interest has happeneed which makes me go I think you are scum abosulte donkey fuckjing whore. So I will leave it here andc read wen I find internet or something like internet which I can lick like an ice cream.

[/drunk]

Porochaz · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:11 pm

I want you to know I am now scratching my balls

Budja · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:37 pm

Nice insightful posting there

.

How about a little setup discussion.
@all, how do you feel about a bomb-claim?

molestargazer · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:50 am

Hi all.
No idea what's happened since I last logged in. Been hit by flu or something, don't expect any useful posts til tomorrow at the earliest.

Just making so I don't need to be prodded.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:44 am

Budja wrote:Nice insightful posting there .

At the speed this game is going, I'm happy with whatever at this point.

Budja wrote:How about a little setup discussion.
@all, how do you feel about a bomb-claim?

Uh, outing the bombs is probably a bad idea. I think it benefits scum two different ways. 1) They will know who not to target. Right now the threat of people being bombs is probably the only thing keeping the body count so low. 2) Scum can fakeclaim bombs to avoid being vigged.

Kinda a scummy suggestion there, Budja. If anything, super-saint-claim(s) would be better.

Budja · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:51 am

Eh, I asked the question as it appears to have roughly even pros/cons in my view. Now quag (bomb) is dead, it is probably more of a bad idea.
Note that it would give the vigs a free reign and well as the mafia.

Why would a super-saint claim be better? It gives scum a free target (much like with the bombs claiming) and reduces the risk of hammering to scum (which would discourage quickhammers by scum in LyLo).

Kublai Khan · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:04 am

Budja wrote:Eh, I asked the question as it appears to have roughly even pros/cons in my view. Now quag (bomb) is dead, it is probably more of a bad idea.
Note that it would give the vigs a free reign and well as the mafia.

Giving the vigs free reign is probably also a bad idea given that activity is so low that nobody can get a decent read on anybody else.

Budja wrote:Why would a super-saint claim be better? It gives scum a free target (much like with the bombs claiming) and reduces the risk of hammering to scum (which would discourage quickhammers by scum in LyLo).

True. I guess the thing that's worrying me more is fakeclaims. Bomb seem more useful in keeping random kills down throughout the game versus a super-saint's role of stopping the quick-lynch at LYLO.

I almost think that the setup is too balanced. I feel deadlocked.

Budja · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:50 pm

I can't see any advantages to really be gained from the set-up either. Bombs and supersaints can be town or anti-town depending on the situation.

CKD wrote: ML is suspect with his voting hoping around and request for a wagon.

I don't see it as so bad as he is explaining his reasons.
Having a wagon is not bad, but with mole's general apathy not much is happening.

Kublai wrote: Since Budja is offering a virtual L-1 at this point.

I am still torn on this. I would vote if I was more confident but mole's behaviour is borderline enough that I don't really feel like lynching him, for now at least.

Kublai wrote: Kinda a scummy suggestion there, Budja.

Do you think my question was scum-motivated then? Is a bomb claim that bad?

@CKD, why did you abandon your case on me? You seemed pretty convinced before.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:44 pm

I'm still here, and I'm still really sorry for inactivity. Unexpectedly got the chance to go down to Wembley to see Coldplay on Friday and just got back late last night. I'm catching up and will post later today or tonight.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:40 pm

meh,

Case is not abandoned.....I still feel like you were scummy day 1...but dont know if Budscum would vote at the end of yesterday unless he knew the role....if there had been a scum flip yesterday...yeah...I would be on you...but KK is right, it is hard to believe that you would have jumped on that wagon...that being said..it WAS after the deadline has closed, but meh....

I also dont see Budscum, asking me about my case on Bud.....I think budscum, would have just let that heat die....to me, seems like someone trying to get conversation started....

so you are in the neutral catagory....but everyone is in the neutral catagory really....back in town, so I will reread, but game seems to be slow...everyone is waiting...for something to happen.....

Budja · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:27 pm

CKD wrote:everyone is waiting...for something to happen.....

With this attitude, nothing will happen.

CKD wrote: .if there had been a scum flip yesterday...yeah...I would be on you

Whats with all the ellipses?

Budja · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:28 pm

EBWOP:

Insert after the scond quote:

"What difference would that make?"

Korts · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:32 am

Vote Count

(2) molestargazer- Kublai Khan, MacavityLock

(1) Kublai Khan- molestargazer

not voting:

Budja, ChannelDelibird, curiouskarmadog, Porochaz

4 to lynch

Deadline is September 23rd 6 PM EST.

MacavityLock has been prodded.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:43 am

Budja wrote:Do you think my question was scum-motivated then? Is a bomb claim that bad?

Eh, I don't think you're scum.. But you did move from town-ish to neutral.

Budja wrote:With this attitude, nothing will happen.

Agreed. I'm getting to a point where I'm believing that those who are lurking the most have to be scum. I'm getting ready to move my vote to ChannelDelibird or MacavityLock.

MacavityLock · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:17 am

Prodded, busy weekend, sorry.

As for Bomb-claim, I don't think I'm for it. What do people think of a Vig/Not Vig massclaim?

Kublai Khan · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:53 pm

MacavityLock wrote:As for Bomb-claim, I don't think I'm for it. What do people think of a Vig/Not Vig massclaim?

That would be the exact same thing as a bomb claim! It's like handing the mafia a "Who to kill to win the game" list.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:10 am

not for a bomb claim, dont think I understand why anyone would want to do that.

going to be busy the next couple of days.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:55 am

Still here. I am replacing out of a couple of games (getting back to uni has had more impact than I thought it would) in order to be able to put enough time into this and Lost mafia.

Re: bomb claim - I'm struggling to see any benefit. What springs to my mind immediately as optimum town play there seems at best confusing. The claiming ideas as a whole just seem to be a desperate attempt to kick start the game, and as worthy an intent as that is, I don't see unprompted claims like that having any pro-town use.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:07 am

I really don't like how ChannelDelibird and Porochaz are totally avoiding commenting on the molestargazer wagon. Porochaz is V/LA until... Friday? (Feels like it's been longer) But ChannelDelibird doesn't have the same excuse.

His inactivity is dragging the game and killing the wagon on molestargazer. Strong scum-partner possibility.

molestargazer · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:05 am

Looks like I'm gonna die.

Kublai Khan wrote:I really don't like how ChannelDelibird and Porochaz are totally avoiding commenting on the molestargazer wagon. Porochaz is V/LA until... Friday? (Feels like it's been longer) But ChannelDelibird doesn't have the same excuse.

His inactivity is dragging the game and killing the wagon on molestargazer. Strong scum-partner possibility.

You're blaming the inactivity of 2 people of killing the wagon on me?
Unless someone else gets more votes by tomorrow (real-tomorrow), I'm dead anyway. Read the rules. Their inactivity wouldn't help me anyway. And, well, you can't call most people's activity good.

The Rules wrote:(15b) If the game reaches deadline before a majority lynch happens, the player with the most votes at that time will be lynched. In the event of a tie, the player who had the most votes (of those tied) before the tie will be lynched.

MacavityLock · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:42 am

Kublai Khan wrote:
MacavityLock wrote:As for Bomb-claim, I don't think I'm for it. What do people think of a Vig/Not Vig massclaim?
That would be the exact same thing as a bomb claim! It's like handing the mafia a "Who to kill to win the game" list.

I was thinking that it could both help vigs and potentially trap scum, but I certainly see what you're saying.

Budja · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:46 pm

OK, how about a claim now then mole. If you are a supersaint, I'd prefer to know earlier than later here.
I'd prefer one of the inactives to hammer in that case.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:08 pm

Kublai Khan wrote:I really don't like how ChannelDelibird and Porochaz are totally avoiding commenting on the molestargazer wagon. Porochaz is V/LA until... Friday? (Feels like it's been longer) But ChannelDelibird doesn't have the same excuse.

His inactivity is dragging the game and killing the wagon on molestargazer. Strong scum-partner possibility.

My not adding anything to my previous comments on the mole wagon was supposed to indicate that my opinion had not changed. I still think it makes sense.

I'd be willing to hammer mole after claim.

molestargazer · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:37 pm

Sorry, no supersaint here. I'm a Pro-Town Vig.

My case was an easy one to hop on. I understand why you're doing it, but I don't think that my trying to make a case and move the game along, trying to get myself interested in the game again, is something lynch-worthy. As I've stated repeatedly, that's all I was trying to do.

I urge you to look at those who pushed my wagon along - and don't let the scum control the conversation. I fear that with the inactivity it'll be too easy for the scum to control our lynches and end this game pretty quick.