/in-vitational 2 - Chosen, Karaoke - Game over! before 830

[Zorblag]

How sure are you guys are that I am scum? If you assumed that I was not scum would you see me as vanilla or chosen? I ask because I am still fighting if I should be the lynch. Someone could vote me, and see if I was hammered... if not I would be confirmed vanilla or scum, and the town could finish me for the win. Risky...

Troll no be sure at all. Someone be subtle this game. More so than in the last game we were all in.

Also that plan no works. We no have a way to know that the scum haven't cast the first or second vote. What we gain with two votes on A with B no hammering is that either B no be scum or A no be chosen.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Scien]

I thought it was 2 votes to lynch?

[Scien]

Holy crap it is 3... that changes things.

[Zorblag]

With four alive it takes three to lynch. But even if it were two we no could be sure that it no was scum who cast the first vote.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Scien]

Unless the vote was a self-vote.

I have a weird question for everyone.

At the time of Sajin's death, would you say that he was likely town or likely scum. What were your beliefs before the NK.

[Zorblag]

Hmm, if it was just two votes required and it was a self vote then yes, we could be sure that them no were chosen. Interesting. Sadly it no helps us as you said.

Troll thinks you might have the question you be asking phrased in a way other than you intended. In any case, Troll thought that Sajin was town since day one. Troll thought him had a decent chance of being chosen until him got night killed.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[MiteyMouse]

MiteyMouse

..possibly Chosen

Papa Zito

...Scum

Scien

...Chosen

Zorblag

...Townie. Why I think that Zorblag is not one of the Chosens is because we all said that we'd veto him...though the fact that he is still alive really gives me pause in this game.

I'm pretty sure that Zorblag is the Townie here. Scien and Papa really have me torn. I could see arguements for either of them being either the Scum or the Chosen. I'm more leaning to Papa Scum than Scien Scum right now...Scien made it through that WOW war and came out without slipping. That makes him look pretty Townie to me.

[Scien]

Troll thinks you might have the question you be asking phrased in a way other than you intended.

You'll have to point out where you think I did that after Mitey answers (Papa has already answered in the thread). I'm not seeing it, but then again I authored it so maybe I am reading past it.

[MiteyMouse]

Scien...I thought that Sajin was more likely Town before his death...at the time of his death we all knew that he was Town as, Incog told us.

[Zorblag]

MiteyMouse expressed the trouble there. Before the night kill be the only state that matters as after the night kill we knew Sajin was town. Clearly you had two related questions in mind but you only asked on as it was phrased. Troll wondered if you meant to ask about the chances of Sajin be chosen which Troll included in Troll's answer.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Scien]

No not really. The chosen thing is not what I was after. But I guess your guys' complaints about my wording stand. I meant before that night.

I was asking because that was basically the last real game setup input that the scum would have had behind the scenes input on. From that point on, any manipulation they would of liked to do would have been done in thread.

Basically that NK set up the way the game is currently. I'm trying to see if I can get some idea of scum thoughts off that.

[Zorblag]

That last post by Scien makes an interesting assumption. Without Troll saying what it is does Scien know what it be?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Papa Zito]

I was 100% convinced Sajin was town. The way hohum tunneled him I thought he was Chosen and hohum scum.

Hard to type with a puppy on your lap.

g hbyn

Papa Zito...Scum

lulz Yes Mitey. I wrecked my chances by wiping out my partner the first day.

Also, yeah, somehow this end scenario doesn't feel coincidental.

[Papa Zito]

That last post by Scien makes an interesting assumption. Without Troll saying what it is does Scien know what it be?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Very clever, Troll.

[Zorblag]

Troll takes that to mean that Papa Zito sees what it is? Here it be from Troll in some code or other:

N E G T T D E A A E G D Y E R N A N

If Papa Zito has it a similar code no would be a bad idea for the purposes of comparison after Scien has answered.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Papa Zito]

Arrite. Hopefully I remember. heh

F S T A T, S M H K T O L W O A N-C T. T O W F S T K T I I H W S.

[Papa Zito]

Fun times.

(Oh hai Mitey we're passing codes. >_> <_< >_>)

[Zorblag]

Notepad be Troll's best friend for these. Troll used them a couple times in the other Chosen game and was able to just copy and paste from what Troll had on the notepad then. Memory be a poor thing to rely on. But then Troll might be biased as Troll has a terrible memory.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Papa Zito]

Good call. My memory is poor as well.

Notepaded.

I'm gonna feel pretty silly if my interpretation is wrong.

[Zorblag]

Troll thinks that you have the same idea as Troll thinks that Troll knows what your code be and worked through what most of it likely means. Troll supposes we will see soon enough.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[MiteyMouse]

Papa...I got the cutest image of the guy from your avatar cuddling with a puppy! Hehehe!

Cojin being here or not did not really hurt whoever the Scum is did it Papa? I'm not sure that that is a valid arguement at all...but, if you did bus then it bought you some Town cred didn't it?

NOT CODES!!! Are you all trying to make my head blow up?

[Papa Zito]

:/ Some code. lawl

Hey Mitey, join in the fun. It's like an RPG mini-quest.

[Scien]

The obvious implication was that the scum used it's night kills to set up the game in a favorable way.

I really don't know what other assumption you are guessing I am making. The fact that you are talking back and forth in code makes me think that you think it a nefarious assumption... and I just don't see it.

I did see myself use the word 'they' instead of it... but that's an artifact of trying to stay gender neutral with the remaining scum.

I'm not going to try and bother decrypting the code to guess what you guys might have going through your heads. I'll know soon enough anyway.

[Papa Zito]

Pre-emptive happy scumday, Mitey!

[Zorblag]

Troll's code was the last letter in each word. It was:

Scien be assuming that it would be a vanilla townie getting lynched day three rather than a chosen.

Troll thinks that Papa Zito's code was the first letter in each word. Troll's guess for what him was saying be:

For Scien to assume that, Scien must have known that our lynch would off(?) a non-chosen target(?). *Second sentence not that important.*

Troll's guess for the second sentence be much weaker, a potential start be:
The one who first said that knew that ...?

Why would Scien be assuming that a chosen no would be lynched? If one had been (and there were as many of them as there were vanilla townies so that no be at all clear that it would be expected them no would be lynched) the scum would have had another night kill on night three to take it down to better odds for the scum.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh