PookyTheMagicalBear: 3 (iamausername, Kmd4390, populartajo)
Kmd4390: 2 (elvis_knits, roflcopter)
VP Baltar: 1 (SerialClergyman)
Not Voting: 7 (charter, ekiM, PookyTheMagicalBear, Thesp, VP Baltar, Yosarian2, zu_Faul)
I'm not sure that's a logical case, until we know VP's alignment. I mean, I could just as easily say that the wagon on you came very close to a lynch and then was massively derailed by the VP Baller wagon.SerialClergyman wrote: We just had a massive derailing of a wagon, running up Xyl who is now confirmed town led by roflcopter and yet when day breaks on D3 he's back to his kmd case and it's like nothing happened.
This is a good point. However, Pooky, we have gotten the most out of you as a result of the votes on you. Basically, you do deserve pressure because you've been lurking.pooky wrote:So all three players voting me either have solid scumreads on TWO other players or a decent idea, but are choosing to hatevote a noncontributor without even explaining what they want me to contribute?
That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile. What analysis does it provide if I flip town?SC wrote:But even if you ignore all that, what's wrong with a vp lynch? His alignment is crucial to analysing yesterday's wagon, he's been scummy this game, two protown players wanted him lynched yesterday, he claimed vanilla - I think he's a perfect lynch under almost any criteria, yes?
Bad summary of the argument, more like.SerialClergy's argument that we have to lynch VP Baltar to be able to analyze his wagon is bad. That's a bad reason to lynch a person. Whoever we lynch will give us information, whoever we lynch will give us the benefit of being able to analyze the wagon. It's a bad, bad reason to push a lynch on a person, solely for "information."
This should be our thinking:
1)BAB is scummy
2)BAB claimed vanilla
3)BAB is either vanilla or scum.
4)If we lynch BAB, we either lynch scum or vanilla, therefore little damage to town, or huge advantage. As a bonus, no power roles have to claim today.
I've been thinking about this and trying to give it a fair shot, even though I am resistant to it because I dislike some of the reasons. I like the first two points (which I bolded), but I think the second two are bad. And I am still wondering about wagon speed (which made me think VP was likely town before).SerialClergyman wrote:My argument to lynch Baltar is for ALL the reasons he should have been lynched yesterday (which you voted for, coincidentally)
PLUS the fact that it's hard to explain the shift away from him to a different townie if VP is town
PLUS the fact the wagon is now more sound due to the flips of those that were pushing it
PLUS the info we'll gain from it, and it specifically. Unlike a wagon on any other person, it is unique in that we have not just today's wagon to look at after a flip, but yesterdays wagon and the shift away from it towards Xyl.
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um KMD,
iam said:
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Vote: PookyTheMagicalBear
rofl and VP are still scum, but Pooky has given us absolutely nothing, and that needs to stop. "
and you said in the next post:
"Vote Pooky
I agree with Iamasarian2. "
which I thought meant you read his post and agreed with it, including the part about rofl and VP being scum.
I wish people would stop saying stuff like this. That basically makes you the second person to claim "not vig", which is not a good thing for the town here.Thesp wrote: (vig? where were you last night on either of these two?)
I thought VP Baltar was scummy yesterday, but I'm really uncomfortable with the line of reasoning people are using. They're basically one of the below:Things from yesterday haven't gone away, moreso when two significant people on his wagon yesterday have turned up pro-town, and one of them was a friggin' goon cop who waffled on his initial vote, then went full-force on a VP Baltar vote.