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Kublai Khan Khan Man
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Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 7
charter- 4 - SerialClergyman, Col.Cathart, mathcam, CoCo - (L-3)
CoCo- 2 - SensFan, Peabody - (L-5)
Peabody- 4 - Cyberbob, Talitha, charter, Vaya - (L-3)
Vaya- 1 - le Chat - (L-6)
Players not voting: HooplaOccasionally intellectually honest
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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I'm not a fan of the charter wagon right now, in no small part because I think there's at the very least one Scum in {SC, Col.C, CoCo}.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I agree, charter isn't a good lynch choice. I don't really understand the charges he's guilty of. Lets tilt the balance back in Peabody's favour.SensFan wrote:I'm not a fan of the charter wagon right now, in no small part because I think there's at the very least one Scum in {SC, Col.C, CoCo}.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that you switched your vote multiple times within the last couple pages. And you vote charter on the grounds of vote hopping?CoCo wrote:Peabody, are you accusing me of vote hopping? The quote was messed up in both my post and yours.
So you acknowledge you were dodging questions?CoCo wrote: I'm also curious as to where I'verecentlydodged questions.
Here are some questions you just dodged:
[quote="CoCO]I wrote:Coco, please explain which of Charter's behavior makes him scummy to you.
You pushed a hard vote for mathcam and charter about the early bandwagon? Where? [/quote]
Talitha wrote: CoCo, you said a while back that you don't feel like Peabody is scum. Please explain your reasons.Charter wrote:
And? Why is that scummy? I'll preempt the inevitable 'trying to get a quicklynch' BS argument by pointing out I unvoted Hoopla less than two hours after I voted. Bandwagons are protown.CoCo wrote:coco wrote:
1. You jumped on the Hoopla bandwagon.Charter wrote:Please point out where I gave this reason when I voted Peabody, because you're inventing it.
These are all questions you failed to answer...Charter wrote:
What does this even mean? If it means that I vote Cathart because others are and I'm just jumping on the wagon, then this is once again, completely false. When I voted him, I was the only one voting for him.CoCo wrote: 4. You vote Cathart during a strong wagon.
You are notorious for avoiding questions... Answer them.
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Quote me. Where exactly do I do this?Cyberbob wrote: You're being incredibly obtuse here. You used almost literally the exact same language in your attack on my position as I did in that position. You came out swinging against my usage of terms such as "feels" rather hard, then - when questioned - immediately switched to "oh it just feels suspicious to me".-
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I'm pretty sure if you read my posts you would know why I suspect those three.Peabody wrote:
Why those three?SensFan wrote: I'm not a fan of the charter wagon right now, in no small part because I think there's at the very least one Scum in {SC, Col.C, CoCo}.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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Read me in iso. Control+F "coco" or "sc". That gives you the answer to two of them.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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I don't find your vote scummy. I find you scummy, and so (when combined with 3/4 votes on someone being from people I find scummy), it gives me pause on whether its a good wagon.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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Fair enough.
The reason I ask is that I am not voting charter and never has been. Kublai's mental facilities have been undernourished from the last game where he claimed miller as scum and was never suspected till he won, I think
Does that do anything to allieviate your concern about the charter wagon?I'm old now.-
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Your initial reaction to my post:Peabody wrote:Quote me. Where exactly do I do this?
Then, when Cathart made a very good post questioning this line of attack, you responded with this:Peabody wrote:I don't like your word choice. It "feels" like a bunch of "townies". If I were to take a wild guess, I could see how a member of the mafia could 'feel' that there is an argument among townies. Word choice is crucial in detection of mafia. Obviously, its not the best point, but something to pay attention to.
Asking people to quote you in order to prove their point only actually works as a defence if you didn't in fact say what has been attributed to you.Peabody wrote:I don't know, just the whole wording of the post seems forced. The post gave me a bad feeling in the gut. I did tell you all that it wasn't the best point. I feel that I ought to contribute my observations if I believe something isn't quite right, don't you agree?
@SC: Could I have an answer to the question about your play as Haru I posed you at the bottom of my post 406, please?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Haru was voting charter when you "replaced" him. Did you forget?SerialClergyman wrote:The reason I ask is that I am not voting charter and never has been. Kublai's mental facilities have been undernourished from the last game where he claimed miller as scum and was never suspected till he won, I thinktread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Ah, in that case Kublai's mental facilities are fine (although as if not unvote replacements) but Sens' argument now definitely makes less sense. He didn't think Haru was scummy, so Haru's vote for charter would have been a positive for the charter wagon, yes?
I'll have a look at your question, hold on a tick, I'm just browsing all games atm, still busy.
Ok, I've had a look but I'm not sure what you're getting at. As far as I can tell, you're asking me to tell you the motivations of Haru, which I wouldn't be any better at than anyone else if I could understand his point, but since I can't determine what he meant by stained glass peabody and un charter I've got no idea.
You realise that when I said Haru was me, I didn't mean we were the same person behind the posts, I mean I replaced him, right?I'm old now.-
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No, I didn't realise that.SerialClergyman wrote:You realise that when I said Haru was me, I didn't mean we were the same person behind the posts, I mean I replaced him, right?
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I didn't know who placed the vote any more than you did. I just saw the votecount.SerialClergyman wrote:Ah, in that case Kublai's mental facilities are fine (although as if not unvote replacements) but Sens' argument now definitely makes less sense. He didn't think Haru was scummy, so Haru's vote for charter would have been a positive for the charter wagon, yes?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Rather better. Not only is that one less questionable person on it, but one less person in general.SerialClergyman wrote:Sens - what do you feel about the charter wagon now?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Sens - aren't those points counter to each other? On one hand you're happier thinking he might be scum because there's one less scummy person on the wagon, but on the other hand you're glad that the wagon is lessening onhim, presumably because you think him town?
I admit I don't get the idea of FoSing people. It seems to me to be a dramatic way to say 'I suspect you!' when just saying 'I suspect you' is fine. So maybe it's this that's biasing my opinion, but I found CoCos' FoS then vote the next day quite odd.
Still haven't had time to go through some of the other players thoroughly, sorry, I should be able to get through a bit tonight.I'm old now.-
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No.SerialClergyman wrote:Sens - aren't those points counter to each other? On one hand you're happier thinking he might be scum because there's one less scummy person on the wagon, but on the other hand you're glad that the wagon is lessening onhim, presumably because you think him town?
I'm happy that the wagon has less scummy people on it, since it lessens the chance of it being scum-fueled.
I'm happy that the wagon has less people on it, since I think the logic is weak, and so less people means higher chance of different points of view than a scum-fueled wagon.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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