Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)

[Zachrulez]

By the way, there's not a snowball's chance in hell that there weren't scum on Gieff's wagon.

[SensFan]

Vote: Benmage

I've seen enough bullshit from you.

[Benmage]

Vote: Benmage

I've seen enough bullshit from you.

Please, go back to not playing.

[Benmage]

By the way, there's not a snowball's chance in hell that there weren't scum on Gieff's wagon.

Naturally I agree with you. I don't know how many, its something I intend to look into. But I'd be willing to bet (assuming 3 scum) At least 1 scum wasn't on the wagon.

[Benmage]

Also while looking at DDD being the first voter on all three wagons is just peculiar. I'll dwell on this.

[SensFan]

Vote: Benmage

I've seen enough bullshit from you.

Please, go back to not playing.

If I recall correctly, you're one of those people that needs a case typed and pointed out so you can understand it; here you go:
*You wrote monstrous amounts of stuff overnight
*You have tried to get me lynched forever, without ever making a case
*You yelled at me for saying I wouldn't be killed, then just said you were surprised you weren't
*You voted Zach for posting a vote analysis, saying you think people that lynched 3/3 Townies are more likely Town
*Your signal:noise ratio is far too low

And that's off the top of my head.

[SensFan]

Please add:
*You continuously try to imply I'm not playing, expecially when I attack certain people

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

Zachrulez (1): Benmage
Benmage (1): SensFan

Not Voting: Battle Mage, alexhans, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Kmd4390, SpyreX, Zachrulez, jammer

5 to lynch

[Zachrulez]

vote Zachrulez

Why?

Your scum.

But in actuality. It's partly gut. It's partly because of your overrall play. I didn't like your whole reaction in D2 to how i opened, nor to how I self voted.

Something about that doesn't seem right. The way your first line saying I'm scum transitions into a paragraph about why you REALLY voted for me, which tends to indicate that you aren't voting for me because you think I'm scum. Strange...

What stopped you from voting for me over it on day 2 or day 3? If you think it was scummy, that's fair enough, but it seems opportunistic to leave it for 2 game days only to jump on it now.

I also dislike this recent vote count list of yours. Seeing has actually put faith into DDD and SpryeX. In the mass of confusion that this game has endured and with the hating of lurkers, and the rush at the last deadline I don't see scum feeling the need to push wagons, and would be more worried about those off the wagons. Town vote, because town need to find scum.

Two simple questions here.

What is wrong with the vote count lists I posted?

Why does it put faith in DDD and Spyrex for you?

[Benmage]

Vote: Benmage

I've seen enough bullshit from you.

Please, go back to not playing.

If I recall correctly, you're one of those people that needs a case typed and pointed out so you can understand it; here you go:
*You wrote monstrous amounts of stuff overnight
*You have tried to get me lynched forever, without ever making a case
*You yelled at me for saying I wouldn't be killed, then just said you were surprised you weren't
*You voted Zach for posting a vote analysis, saying you think people that lynched 3/3 Townies are more likely Town
*Your signal:noise ratio is far too low

And that's off the top of my head.

Please add:
*You continuously try to imply I'm not playing, expecially when I attack certain people

*Applauds the case*
Well done. Misguided but well done. You’re actually following your own advice for how mafia is “suppose” to be played. Impressive.

Now I can break down your points. Zomg town progress.

First: Writing a lot is town. You can argue it’s anti-town, different of opinion.

Second: I thought I made a case at one point, I don’t recall off the top of my head. But I do recall a lot of my voting you had to do with your lacking input into the game/hypocrisy. I.E. when you gave a definition of how mafia is suppose to be played and haven’t until just now followed suit. I’m sure you can throw in your obstinate behavior to some of the votes as well.

Third: I don’t recall yelling at you for this. I think others were much more worried. I’d ask for a link because I don’t want to cipher back for it, but won’t because I doubt you will either, and since this is all off our heads I just want you to note that I don’t think I led this point. And hell yeahs I think it surprising I wasn’t killed.

** I think you (in a town sense, because I toss this option around with you from time to time) would think you wouldn’t be lynched because you’ve consistently been a popular lynch target possibility.

**Why I am surprised I am alive, is because yesterday nearly everyone marked me down as obvious town.

Fourth: Yes, this point is true.
Fifth: Huh, do you mean to high? Like I post too much?
Sixth: Again, you’re the one who tried to stop posting in this game.

[Benmage]

What stopped you from voting for me over it on day 2 or day 3? If you think it was scummy, that's fair enough, but it seems opportunistic to leave it for 2 game days only to jump on it now.

I thought Gieff was scummy at many points in this game. Nearing the end of yesterday I thought Vi was scummy. Things change.

vote Zachrulez

Why?

Your scum.

But in actuality. It's partly gut. It's partly because of your overrall play. I didn't like your whole reaction in D2 to how i opened, nor to how I self voted.

Something about that doesn't seem right. The way your first line saying I'm scum transitions into a paragraph about why you REALLY voted for me, which tends to indicate that you aren't voting for me because you think I'm scum. Strange...

What...how the hell does that indicate I'm not voting you for thinking your scum.

Maybe I am seeing it wrong, probably because I was going to be an ass and just quote it and write "your scum" as the answer and post it, but decided to be kinder and give a quick of the top of my head recollection of scummy things you've done.

[Benmage]

I also dislike this recent vote count list of yours. Seeing has actually put faith into DDD and SpryeX. In the mass of confusion that this game has endured and with the hating of lurkers, and the rush at the last deadline I don't see scum feeling the need to push wagons, and would be more worried about those off the wagons. Town vote, because town need to find scum.

Two simple questions here.

What is wrong with the vote count lists I posted?

Why does it put faith in DDD and Spyrex for you?

Answered in the paragraph you quoted.

[Benmage]

Oh, there's nothing necessarily wrong with the count itself. Rather your analysis at the bottom.

[Battle Mage]

...alright, so now I have to go back and completely disregard anything GIEFF said with regards to anything, since he decided at some point to purposely play against his wincon, and so we have to assume he decided that pre-game.

I hate people that throw games.

I'm tempted to lynch you on the spot simply for hypocrisy. How do you suppose you will achieve your win condition if you arent even following the game?

BM

[Battle Mage]

the site doesnt like me doing this, but

Vote: Zach

BM

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Well I'm back to where I was yesterday before GIEFF decided to do his best Zoltan Mesko impression and punt this game away. SpyreX or Battle Mage are most likely to be scum and even better they're not mutually exclusive scum. I could also be swayed to vote for Jammer or KMD, but I'd rather we lynch SpyreX or BM today.

[alexhans]

My problem lies in the fact that it seems I've trusted every AtE that appears.

SensFan AtEd with his "mafia is making me sick but I wont replace out but I'll stop posting"
Benmage AtEd... with his "you're all idiots for voting me for writing at night, look, I vote meself."
Battle Mage AtEd to the max...
SpyreX also made some AtEs.
Some consider I did it too even it was not intentional.

That's 5 out of 10 players who might be "clearer" for expressing or faking to express emotions...

Camn, GIEFF did it too...

on the other hand, DDD, jammer and Zach seem like ice blocks.

KMD has been missing for a while... And I mean content missing. I don't recall any relevant stuff from him in a while.

I feel like shoving every AtE in my ass and vote whoever played awful.

1) Debonair Danny DiPietro
2) Kmd4390
3) jammer
4) SensFan
5) alexhans
6) Benmage
7) Zachrulez
8) Battle Mage
9) SpyreX

Benmage... Why did you say:

Down for a DDD,KmD, Jammer, or ALex lynch.

if you then voted for Zach?

Are you still down for a jammer lynch?

Also, you don't seem to give reasons as to why you would be down for an Alex or KMD lynch...

Is this game going to be like that? No reasons for the votes?

btw, I'll go the same way as yesterday.

Vote Jammer

SensFan and Benmage. Stop fighting. We don't care.

the site doesnt like me doing this, but

Vote: Zach

BM

Please, stop trying to purposely hurt this game by being a rebel... Don't come just to post a vote when you know it's gonna suck for everyone. You keep playing anti-town to the max and keep making me want to vote you. If this was a common game... I would've lynched you already, no matter what. It's worst than trying to read Zwets because you're not dumb even though you like to act like it sometimes...

Conclusion: Let's stop fucking around.

To investigate: Why the hell people lynched GIEFF? Why over SpyreX?

[Battle Mage]

I'm not being a rebel. Zach is obvscum. I could stand for a Jammer lynch, and probably a DDD lynch too.

I'll switch to Jammer if needed.

BM

[Benmage]

To investigate: Why the hell people lynched GIEFF? Why over SpyreX?

Scum in the game r-tard, rushed deadline....really...

Are you still down for a jammer lynch?

Yes

Benmage... Why did you say:

Down for a DDD,KmD, Jammer, or ALex lynch.

if you then voted for Zach?

Answered in the post where Zach asks "why".

Is this game going to be like that? No reasons for the votes?

Yes, there's 118 pages worth of reasons. Unless I feel like specifically mentioning/highlighting something i have no qualm in simply voting, or saying x is scum.

[Zachrulez]

I'm not being a rebel. Zach is obvscum. I could stand for a Jammer lynch, and probably a DDD lynch too.

I'll switch to Jammer if needed.

BM

*raises eyebrow*

[Benmage]

I'll switch to Jammer if needed.

word

[Battle Mage]

yeh, liking a Zach lynch right now. Mage's Unite!

BM

[Zachrulez]

It's nice to see people who've already made up their mind before everyone has checked in.

No, really.

[alexhans]

Zach... I made up my mind yesterday.

[Zachrulez]

Zach... I made up my mind yesterday.

Yeah, that's kinda the point I'm making.