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/confirm~

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Kise - You were right in Skywalker with your assumption. Who do you believe to be the couple now?

dramonic - Do you prefer being mafia, town, or third party. If you chose third party, what role?
Also:

Although the lesbian and transexual options are null considering this room is filled with guys XD

what if the couple is a GLBT couple? XD

Do you not answer your own question here?

SpongeBob - Your avatar shows SpongeBob and Patrick kissing. As we know, there is no possibly for a heterosexual mafia couple. Is your avatar just a coincidence for this game?

Rocco - What is your preferred number of people in a game?

Le Chat - I have no questions for you.

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@Sironigous - How did you come to name yourself Sironigous?

About 5 years ago I started playing RuneScape. My first username was "Mages_Sacrif."
Of course, in RuneScape, the big hype was to make "pure" accounts focusing on strength with an attack stat secondary.

And thus, "Sironigous" was my pure account. However, I found it extremely tedious to transfer food from my main to my pure.

Eventually I started leveling fishing on my pure account. And then I started leveling everything else, cooking and everything else associated.

Then I was forced to quit RS. However, I came back after about 2 years.

I found my main account too...dreary, and switched to Sironigous.

Since then, I've used to for mostly everything - side name being "Zargy," which I used for PuzzlePirates and Animal Crossing.

Pronunciation of Sironigous Copy/Pasted from "House of Mirrors" :

Sironigous
(Sigh-ron-i [like i in in]-gus)

But it has often been misconstrued as "Sir Onigous."

Generally, the shortened form I prefer is "Siro" (sigh-row).

However, alterations such as "Siron" (a broader siren) and "Sironi" (not sure how this is pronounced - siren-ee or siron-i) are acceptable.

"Sir" is more acceptable than "Siron" and "Sironi," but almost equally but a little bit less preferred then "Siro."

I believe the name itself spawned from a random phase of combining random letters to create names.
(Ex. Kazan)

A picture from my middle school agenda:



The key is to remember that I had no intention of the name to be pronounced "Sir Onigous." The first "i" was intentioned to be pronounced as a long "i."

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Completely based on meta with my observations of that technique, Spongebob is scum.

Vote: Spongebob

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Not you personally, the meta behind those frontal questions.

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I would also like Sironigous to compound on what he means by meta on 'those frontal questions.' Unless I'm mistaken, by 'frontal questions' you mean the seemingly random questions that you asked at the very beginning of the game, where you didn't ask me one?

Woo.

Since the game where I got the idea from has finished, I can link to it!

Read the key before clicking on the link.

Key:
Post 5 (TheFonz) - questions
Post 9 (Synx) - rebuttal
Post 1 (Mod) - Synx = scum
viewtopic.php?p=1785192

Though everything did turn out very nicely in this game too with Spongebob's response.

@Sir: I suspect that by saying you "have no questions for me," that accomplishes the same as all your other questions. You're prodding for answers that you find to be out of place, right? I have to assume that it is; if not, stop me here. If that is so, then, I think I have a problem when saying you "have no questions for me." How is someone supposed to respond to that? I think that, regardless of alignment, someone could respond either way. How are you determining anything about me?

Honestly, I just ran out of things to ask. I really thought that kind of intro was neat.

In other words, all the questions were just dug up from who knows where.

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Your case against me is really weak. RVS is a bad thing to completely get rid of based on the questions of a single person.

First - they weren't to a single person.

Second - Why?

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2. Reasons from Sir and dram why they jumped on the wagon.

First and foremost is post 44.
(Spongebob's reaction)


Secondly, everything Kise said is not wrong and Spongebob has done nothing to prove him wrong.

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This game is going a lot slower than my others... I am waiting on Spongebob to respond and I know everyone else is too but we don't have to wait for him to respond to continue our discussion. I guess things have stagnated because you all have your votes on him and are satisfied with the vote?

What would you like to talk about?

dramonic, kise, sir: are you all really satisfied with your vote on Spongebob?

Yes.

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If you are satisfied with your vote on Spongebob, who do you suspect to be his scum-partner?

...

By process of elimination, his partner is you or Far_Cry...

I can't tell which one more than the other though.

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Oo wow I missed a lot.

Sironigous looks slightly suspicious for his one-example vote hop (refer Sironi to "if only scum did something, they would never do it in the first place as it'd give them away").

Well, yeah. Gotta test it some way!

@Sironi: What kind of elimination makes anybody my partner? A buss before it becomes obvious that it's necessary is often the most effective one.

Yeah, it

might

be a bus... but... Kise did have a fairly strong argument against Spongebob. The fact that no one took it - well.. And Spongebob was on L-1... so..

I might just be overreacting about L-1.. First lovers game?

Sironi is also suspicious due to the partner speculation with no real reasoning behind it, and answering for Dram (page two). Could be a link, but unsure of that right now.

Sorry, whatcha mean by answering him?

On the basis that the case on Sponge wasn't bad per se, Le Chat's evidence would give me a feel of

A) Scum scared to garner suspicion, so not hammering
B) Scum that can't hammer his buddy

Well, if it's B... why not just stay on the person with more votes?

I can't fight A though.

Sironi, where are you and when you come back, post your thoughts and finish with a town/scum list as well. [/quote

Townish
Kise (active! expresses!)
dramonic (active! expresses! Would be on par with Kise, but I don't like the vote hopping)
Le Chat (null!!!!)
Far_Cry (expresses, but in a bi-partisan way - also rocco never answered the question)
Amished (on the basis of Spongebob)


Non-Townish

Factors counted in: Activity, Expression, Content

[quote="Le Chat]@Sir O: I think that your initial questions at the beginning of the game are a nice tool that town can use to gauge reactions,

but they can also be used to pick and choose which wagon you think would be easiest to push.

It also puts you right at the start of the lynch. After that, I don't feel that I can put you down as discussing anything else but the Spongebob/Amished vote.

[/quote]

um.

I don't understand how the questions I chose help any kind of bandwagon.
Seriously now - how many players you prefer in a game? Haha.

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Elaborate on this point. Also, as has been discussed, there can't be a bus to hammer as both the scum would die at that point. Though that's somewhat misleading as obviously they can vote for each other, it's just a question of how gutsy the scum are.

Agree... scum usually don't bus each other.

LOL. I'm glad you can't actually factor in my current Activity, Expression and Content into your little graph. It makes things a lot easier for me since you can't get away from what you thought is an opinion you can't change.

Well... yeah... You really didn't refute what Spongebob said at all - which it pretty much the reason WHY I'm voting him., along with the 1 shot thing.

Though I do know you can't read his mind... But could you put into mine what you think he possibly meant by that?

Tag fixed. ~The Mod

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Reading helps.

... it's a little stretchy. o_O

I think he meant that all people should be active and questioning rather than following the lead of one person questioning everybody. This would make sense as only the person asking the questions knows the intent of the questions. Therefore, it really is impossible to gauge reactions properly if you're not active and asking questions yourself. As this also ties into his feelings on the RVS (should last until everyone is ready to move on and go as a group) I'd say this would probably be rather accurate.

I have to admit though, my questions were pretty bogus...

Also, still glad to see that nothing I do can change your opinion on my role. We have caught scum guys. Let's vote Sironi and win this game.

er...
well...

What's your case again? I think I might've missed that too. >.<

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They may be bogus, but I believe they worked!

.. yeah, there's not much to account for you right now that'll, well, help me not think you are scum... I mean, right now it's just been like... OMGUS. (OMG ur scum)

Though.. about being unhelpful - don't forget, I did get us out of RVS. ^___^... which is where this whole discussion started!

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Yeah, maybe at about 6 pages into the game. ^___^ So we're on track now!

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Not like we don't have 3 weeks to discuss anyways.

Besides, me replacing in caused more discussion than your questions. There. Now quiet. Stop distracting the other people from voting you.

I won't stop posting until my posting button is disabled!

You wouldn't have anything to talk about if I didn't make the questions, causing Spongebob to confuse himself and us, causing Kise, myself, and dramonic to vote him. -_-

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i enjoy any game as long as it isnt more than medium size, say 16+ players. i get lost if there are too many people and its not enjoyable. everything else is fun.

This was the question for rocco. ^_^

if you ask everyone questions that relate to game mechanics,

(1) they don't really prove anything that has to do with alignment, (2) you can simply pick the answer that seems easy to pick apart or an answer that is generally considered dumb-tell/scum-tell and you can start a wagon on that player.

i feel that this is exactly what happened with the spongebob wagon.

1) This is the point.
2) or... we could start a whole discussion on how players react to that...

i also very much agree with amished that you have been treating him exactly as you treated spongebob and haven't accounted for the drastic change that happened when he replaced out. i think this is because you simply wanted to get spongebob lynched because he was your easy-pick from the mass questions. if not,

i think your vote definitely would have changed after amished replaced in as he is definitely more competent and doesn't seem scummy imo.

Changed... to whom may I ask? You stated dramonic as your scummiest person and Amished as your second highest townish person.

As you know, I find dramonic as one of my highest townish person... So I do see we have a visible divide in this game.

The thing is, I'm willing to change votes if he can convince me to. Hah.

Though.. go go go Amished lynch!

@Amished - Why do you see me partnered with Far_Cry?
@Le Chat - Why do you see me partnered with dramonic?

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{Prodded} At this rate, Far_Cry will be lynched.

I'm not completely for that - I'd prefer Amished lynched...
BUT.

Far_Cry is my second suspect, as seen in my list...

Blah. Votehopping != fun.

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...Wow...

Deadline saved me and us. o_o

Cool.

Hahah. XD

Big oops in this game. o_o

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Oh ha. I just figured that really wasn't protown. ^___^
I guess I don't know what pro-town is. : |

I guess you attacking me didn't help either. lol.

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Maybe I'm just more neurotic/paranoid..

"OMG he looks town.. he must be scum!"

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Hey cool Zwet reference.

Ah I'mma keep trying. Do you think it's beneficial to count wins/losses?

How exactly do you mark progress? Ha.