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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:04 am

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SpongeBobShortShorts wrote:What exactly was my scumslip?
Xyl: "Confusion = Scummy"
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:19 am

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Vote Count #1


SpongeBobShortShorts-1 (Kise)


Not Voting:
dramonic, le Chat, rocco222, Sironigous, SpongeBobShortShorts

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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:34 am

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Completely based on meta with my observations of that technique, Spongebob is scum.

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:35 am

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What meta? I've played one game here and I was a vanilla townie. And there's nothing scummy about wanting the RVS around. It's an important part of the game. Replacing it with questions from one person only hurts the town because it causes the game to flow unnaturally.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:18 am

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Not you personally, the meta behind those frontal questions.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:16 am

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RVS isn,t an essential part of the game. Yes, it helps "feel" the game, but you can do very well without it.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:11 am

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Why aren't you partaking in the RVS yourself, Sponge? Just ignore everything else and get silly. Otherwise, you're doing the opposite of what you say Sironigous is trying to surpass.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:23 am

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@Mod: Usually, lovers can't vote one another. Is it the same in this game?

If so, this is going to be a cinch
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:20 am

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dramonic wrote:@Mod: Usually, lovers can't vote one another. Is it the same in this game?
Well, that's just silly now isn't it. Even lovers can quarrel. Also going to check if we need any prods here.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:58 am

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Lmao @ dram trying to crack the game.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:03 pm

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Id have laughed :lol:
But i didnt put much faith in it
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:36 am

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rocco222 and le Chat have been prodded. Let's pick up the activity everyone. Nobody likes a boring game.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:06 am

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I agree that Sponge contradicting himself about the RVS is very suspicious.

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normally I'd say claim, but since there are no power-roles... just talk I guess XD
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:11 pm

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I can plainly see where Spongebobshortshorts contradicted himself, and I find that to be suspicious. However, I would very much like Kise to elaborate on how he thinks scum-Bob was feigning a town leader role. I don't see any leading going on at all. In addition, I don't like the argument that "confusion = scummy" because anyone can get confused. I understand that it comes from Xyl and IRC mafia but it still rings very bogus for me. In this situation, Kise attracts my attention a lot more then Spongebob.

I would also like Sironigous to compound on what he means by meta on 'those frontal questions.' Unless I'm mistaken, by 'frontal questions' you mean the seemingly random questions that you asked at the very beginning of the game, where you didn't ask me one?

@dramonic: nice try... but also, I've never ever seen a game where the lovers cannot vote themselves. I understand that when one dies the other dies so it would be in their best interests not to vote one another, but I've never seen where they literally cannot vote one another. Can you show me an example of that?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:22 pm

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SpongeBobShortShorts wrote:I don't like that Sironigous is trying to bypass the random vote stage. It's like he's trying to trip
us
up so he can point at
us
and say "SEE? LOOK HOW SCUMMY HE IS" (because I don't think there's a single girl playing). RVS is an integral part of Mafia because it allows us to weigh each other's reactions to being voted for.
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Sponge put himself in a position to speak for everyone, hence the leadership label.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:14 pm

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@Le Chat

Well, a large quantity of my mafia play IRL is Werewolf of Miller Hollow, in which the lovers can't vote each other.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:10 am

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SpongeBobShortShorts has been prodded. Going to begin looking for a replacement for rocco222.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:22 am

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Kise wrote:
SpongeBobShortShorts wrote:I don't like that Sironigous is trying to bypass the random vote stage. It's like he's trying to trip
us
up so he can point at
us
and say "SEE? LOOK HOW SCUMMY HE IS" (because I don't think there's a single girl playing). RVS is an integral part of Mafia because it allows us to weigh each other's reactions to being voted for.
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Sponge put himself in a position to speak for everyone, hence the leadership label.
I promise I'm not La Chat of triple six. Though I lived a long time in the M-town.

I guess SpongeBob spoke for all of us, but he was doing it while explaining what he thought Sironigous's motives were. He was forming a hypothetical situation where Sir is trying to trip us, meaning town, up as mafia.

Though I understand what he means by "us," and I don't think that is a good reason for him to oppose Sir, and I don't necessarily see how he is putting himself in a leadership position by that, I DO recognize immediately that there's nothing at all wrong with what Sir did by asking questions and bypassing the RVS.

@Sir: I suspect that by saying you "have no questions for me," that accomplishes the same as all your other questions. You're prodding for answers that you find to be out of place, right? I have to assume that it is; if not, stop me here. If that
is
so, then, I think I have a problem when saying you "have no questions for me." How is someone supposed to respond to that? I think that, regardless of alignment, someone could respond either way. How are you determining anything about me?

Or... were you simply saying you actually have no questions for me... :x
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:18 am

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From what I've seen of Siro (I could be wrong) I think it means he hasn't noticed anything particularly odd or standing out in your post, therefore he has nothing he needs you to explain.

Again, I could be wrong, Siro can answer for himself.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:27 am

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Le Chat wrote:I would also like Sironigous to compound on what he means by meta on 'those frontal questions.' Unless I'm mistaken, by 'frontal questions' you mean the seemingly random questions that you asked at the very beginning of the game, where you didn't ask me one?
Woo.

Since the game where I got the idea from has finished, I can link to it!

Read the key before clicking on the link.

Key:
Post 5 (TheFonz) - questions
Post 9 (Synx) - rebuttal
Post 1 (Mod) - Synx = scum
viewtopic.php?p=1785192

Though everything did turn out very nicely in this game too with Spongebob's response.
le Chat wrote:@Sir: I suspect that by saying you "have no questions for me," that accomplishes the same as all your other questions. You're prodding for answers that you find to be out of place, right? I have to assume that it is; if not, stop me here. If that is so, then, I think I have a problem when saying you "have no questions for me." How is someone supposed to respond to that? I think that, regardless of alignment, someone could respond either way. How are you determining anything about me?
Honestly, I just ran out of things to ask. I really thought that kind of intro was neat.

In other words, all the questions were just dug up from who knows where.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:08 pm

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God, only 6 players, you'd expect them to be able to keep up -_-
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:22 pm

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Responding to prod.

Your case against me is really weak. RVS is a bad thing to completely get rid of based on the questions of a single person.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:20 pm

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Far_Cry replaces rocco222. Welcome him with due gratitude.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:03 am

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You're missing the case shortshorts. The fact is, you accuse Siro of trying to skip the RVS, yet you have been responding with further RVS skipping.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 am

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SpongeBobShortShorts wrote:Your case against me is really weak. RVS is a bad thing to completely get rid of based on the questions of a single person.
First - they weren't to a single person.

Second - Why?
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