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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:54 pm

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moose200x wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:
DarkLightA wrote:I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek
Good, your vote tells us 2 things:

1) your vote isn't random
2) something is off with my vote according to you

If you could elaborate on the second thing please.
moose wrote:Is this some sort of scum tactic?
Obviously.

No, seriously, it is easier for us to tie posts to a person with visual material, such as avatars. It also adds more character to you as a poster/player, imo.
I disagree on every count.
Could you please give details on this? Also, are you saying that they might be scum together?
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:14 pm

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moose wrote:I disagree on every count.
As said: elaborate please.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:41 am

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DarkLightA wrote:I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek



Get the discussion going, and my vote is open for change.
How is his vote suspicious?

Vote: DarkLightA
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:16 am

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Jed Cooper wrote:
DarkLightA wrote:I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek



Get the discussion going, and
my vote is open for change
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Sounds scum-aware to me.

Vote Dark
My idea was that My Milked Eek voted for a pointless reason (the avatar). Now, you are the only one supporting him.. Now,
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:23 am

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People! Be sensible!

Notice how My Milked Eek commented on my vote, and then Jed Cooper comes in and agrees with Eek, and asked me to explain my vote, which I already had done in my post.

Now Eek asks for avatars, and moose comments on this. Then guess who comes in to support Eek?

@AfroLaX, please read Eek's vote:
Vote: almaster

There's only one who can have a Pokémon-related avatar.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:36 am

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You didn't really answer our questions, but let's start with what we have:
darklight #028 wrote:My idea was that My Milked Eek voted for a pointless reason (the avatar).
You see, it was a pointless reason. I got that, almaster got that and now you admit to getting that as well. If you acknowledge it was a pointless reason, why did you think of it as suspicious?

DarkLightA wrote:People! Be sensible!

Notice how My Milked Eek commented on my vote, and then Jed Cooper comes in and agrees with Eek, and asked me to explain my vote, which I already had done in my post.

Now Eek asks for avatars, and moose comments on this. Then guess who comes in to support Eek?
Relax, my friend, the game is young and the wine is still plenty.

1) What was so suspicious of my vote that made you vote for me?
2) Would you say that Jed agreeing with me is a sign that he is a scum trying to buddy up to me or is it a sign of him trying to scumhunt?
3) What do you think about moose's comment?
4) Same as #2, does jed appear to be buddying or hunting scum to you?
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:46 am

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DarkLightA wrote:
Jed Cooper wrote:
DarkLightA wrote:I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek



Get the discussion going, and
my vote is open for change
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Sounds scum-aware to me.

Vote Dark
My idea was that My Milked Eek voted for a pointless reason (the avatar). Now, you are the only one supporting him.. Now,
that
seems scum-like to me.
Jed Cooper wrote:Could you please give details on this? Also, are you saying that they might be scum together? (milk)
No. MY question is why is Milk defending you here. Are you two scum buddies?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:08 am

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Jed wrote:No. MY question is why is Milk defending you here. Are you two scum buddies?
Who am I defending where exactly again?
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:14 am

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Unvote: My Milked Eek
Vote: Jed Cooper


Just seems logical to me to counter-vote Jed.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:24 am

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Official Vote Count (deadline 9/9)


DarkLightA (2): (Jed Cooper, AfroLaX)
Maemuki (1): (moose200x)
AlmasterGM (1): (My Milked Eek)
moose200x (1): (Maemuki)
Jed Cooper (1): (DarkLightA)
My Milked Eek (1): (AlmasterGM)
Verll (0):
Belili (0):
AfroLaX (0):

Not Voting (2): (Verll, Belili)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Please let me know if there are any errors with this vote count.
Last edited by Thok on Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:20 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:25 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:
Jed wrote:No. MY question is why is Milk defending you here. Are you two scum buddies?
Who am I defending where exactly again?
I'm just questioning the "easy treatment" you are giving Dark in a "coaching him through it" kind of way.

Then Moose said he disagreed with your points on all counts and the idea came to me that maybe you both were scum?
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:29 am

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DarkLightA wrote:
Unvote: My Milked Eek
Vote: Jed Cooper


Just seems logical to me to counter-vote Jed.
Simple and plain OMGUS, and one without reason, care to explain?
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:45 am

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Maemuki wrote:
DarkLightA wrote:
Unvote: My Milked Eek
Vote: Jed Cooper


Just seems logical to me to counter-vote Jed.
Simple and plain OMGUS, and one without reason, care to explain?
I have been suspicious of both Eek and Jed, and now I'm counter-voting Jed because he voted for me 8-)

This should be pretty clear if you were to read my previous posts.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:46 am

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Btw, what does OMGUS mean? I've only ever played real-life mafia.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:00 am

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Oh, basically what you meant really. It's an abbreviation that means "Oh my god, you suck (for voting for me.)" Used when a person votes for you and then you vote for them. Clearer? =)
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:13 am

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Jed Cooper wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:
Jed wrote:No. MY question is why is Milk defending you here. Are you two scum buddies?
Who am I defending where exactly again?
I'm just questioning the "easy treatment" you are giving Dark in a "coaching him through it" kind of way.
I want to make sure that dark understands what he's saying, it appears to me he isn't really aware of the gravity of his vote for me and his following posts. Don't think that I'm not suspicious of his behaviour right now. I just don't see it fitting to vote him just yet.

jed wrote:Then Moose said he disagreed with your points on all counts and the idea came to me that maybe you both were scum?
I don't really see the line that connects point A to point B really.

dark wrote:I have been suspicious of both Eek and Jed, and now I'm counter-voting Jed because he voted for me

This should be pretty clear if you were to read my previous posts.
1) You didn't really explain why I'm suspicious. And before you're going to reference that one post you made, let me tell you that that is not a good enough reason.

2) Are you suspicious of Jed only because he is suspicious of you?

3) Why are you ignoring my questions?


OMGUS:

Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me).

In essence it's a retaliatory vote, in other words you vote a person only because they voted for you. And usually that's the only reason to vote.

Do note that not all cross voting is omgus.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:17 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:I want to make sure that dark understands what he's saying, it appears to me he isn't really aware of the gravity of his vote for me and his following posts. Don't think that I'm not suspicious of his behaviour right now. I just don't see it fitting to vote him just yet.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:26 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:1) You didn't really explain why I'm suspicious. And before you're going to reference that one post you made, let me tell you that that is not a good enough reason.

2) Are you suspicious of Jed only because he is suspicious of you?

3) Why are you ignoring my questions?
1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.

2) No, because he backs up everything you say.

3) I answer them if I want to answer them.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:37 am

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DarkLightA wrote:1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.

2) No, because he backs up everything you say.

3) I answer them if I want to answer them.
1) You do realize that games usually start with a "random voting stage" (abbr. rvs), in which players "random vote" other players to get some discussion started. This isn't always necessary and some games start without them. Some players even refuse to random vote.

You see, there was no actual reason behind my vote, other than having a vote placed somewhere. The reason I picked almaster was randomly picked.

Now, if someone were to say "I find player x suspicious" in their first post, people usually expect some explanation.


2) Does that make him suspicious? Me? Or you, the subject of our shared suspicion?


3) Sure, but you do realize that not answering questions makes you look evasive, which in turn does not aid your case.

Now, if you will go back and answer all of my questions.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:38 am

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If you can link me to some good ones or something I'll check it out.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:47 am

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Uhm...

Link you to what exactly?
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:55 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:1) What was so suspicious of my vote that made you vote for me?
2) Would you say that Jed agreeing with me is a sign that he is a scum trying to buddy up to me or is it a sign of him trying to scumhunt?
3) What do you think about moose's comment?
4) Same as #2, does jed appear to be buddying or hunting scum to you?
1) I think that's answered.
2&4) Already answered.
3) Awkward, but not really that suspicious (how would it make him scum to not want avatars??).
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DarkLightA wrote:
1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.

2) No, because he backs up everything you say.

3) I answer them if I want to answer them.


1) You do realize that games usually start with a "random voting stage" (abbr. rvs), in which players "random vote" other players to get some discussion started. This isn't always necessary and some games start without them. Some players even refuse to random vote.

You see, there was no actual reason behind my vote, other than having a vote placed somewhere. The reason I picked almaster was randomly picked.

Now, if someone were to say "I find player x suspicious" in their first post, people usually expect some explanation.


2) Does that make him suspicious? Me? Or you, the subject of our shared suspicion?


3) Sure, but you do realize that not answering questions makes you look evasive, which in turn does not aid your case.

Ok, I get it..
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:31 am

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I asked you "What is suspicious about his vote?", because a vote based on something arbitrary [ie. pokemon avatars] often happens on D1, you then quoted his "interesting" vote assuming I would automatically see why it was suspicious without proper reasoning. It seems to me like you were possibly trying to get a bandwagon going on someone based on a false claim.

Also, Dark seems to have gotten really jumpy and done a lot of talking since a couple of votes went against him. A lot of the things he has been saying seem to implicate him [ie. "3) I answer them if I want to answer them."]. However, they could all just be signs of noobness, in which case he is innocent & just attracting attention because he doesn't know what he is doing.
My Milked Eek wrote:4) Same as #2, does jed appear to be buddying or hunting scum to you?
Sure, it makes it seem more likely that Jed is innocent because he is aggressively attacking people a lot, but he could just be doing that to preempt negative attention. By stating your points 2 & 4, you're in effect buddying him.

My vote still stands against Dark though.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:43 am

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@Mae:
What is your opinion of Dark with all of his posts now taken into consideration?
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:57 am

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Jed Cooper wrote:'m just questioning the "easy treatment" you are giving Dark in a "coaching him through it" kind of way.
It's dangerous for IC's to blast out guns blazing early - because they are known be experienced, their suspicions can rapidly turn into a bandwagon if care is not taken. My Milked Eek may simply be playing lightly in order to prevent this from happening.
DarkLightA wrote:1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.
To be fair, it wasn't really awkward to anyone but you.

Unvote: My Milked Eeek. Vote: Belili.
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