MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (SSK's Subgame): Game OVER!

[qwints]

unvote, vote zwet

I don't think zwet's play is compatible with a bulletproof role.

[whoot1234]

Being new to this....
I am looking based on what is claimed and the actions that match his claimed name. I don't like his whole I am only going to hammer vote, and I don't believe that is a bullet proof townie thing to do.

I believe we have gained a good enough information for the hammer,

vote: Zwet

[chenhsi]

...

Anyway, I Googled and found this:

http://www.phyrexia.com/continuity/Cho-Manno.shtml

Anyone experienced with MtG game history want to confirm the accuracy of that? If it is relevant at all?

[Boxman]

...Did you just hammer? Seriously?

[MafiaSSK]

The Third Vote Count (aka the "Mod Curiousity" Vote Count)

13) Sideney (0)
14) Qwints (1):Zwetschenwasser
15)Starbuck (0):
16) chenhsi(0):
17) Whoot1234(0)
18) Zakeri(0):
19) Percy(0)
20) Slicey(0)
21) Sudai(1):Head_Honcho
22) Head_Honcho(0):
23) Boxman(0):
24)Zwetschenwasser(7):Boxman,Slicey,Percy,Zakeri,Sudai,Qwints,Whoot1234

And woah. Looks like that's a lynch Folks. Reveal coming up next.

[MafiaSSK]

Zwetschenwasser has been lynched. He was

Cho Manno,Revolutionary, Bulletproof Townie was hanged D1.

Night 1 begins now. Night actions due in 48 hours.

[MafiaSSK]

Sorry about that. Thread will remain open for the remainder of night.

[Head_Honcho]

Are we allowed to vote at night or does that wait until the next day?

Boxman, I still want you to answer my question.

[Boxman]

I had actually forgotten my vote was there until you mentioned it, but by then he'd already made me suspicious of him, so my vote stood.

[Boxman]

Oh, also, whoot, you've got some 'splaining to do...

[Head_Honcho]

All you had said about him was that you had a neutral read

[Boxman]

That was before the whole "only hammer" and "bulletproof claim" things.

[MafiaSSK]

You may not vote at night.

[Starbuck]

I didn't like that hammer either.

[Zakeri]

I agree with Starbuck.

[Starbuck]

I've played games with Zwet before. He was acting quite differently than he normally does.


This list

Boxman,Slicey,Percy,Zakeri,Sudai,Qwints,Whoot1234

of people who were on his bandwagon are who we need to look at, especially Whoot with that quick hammer.

[Slicey]

Back. What the fuck, why was zwet lynched so quickly? I'll try to re-read ASAP, and I still have all of Tar's game to read.

[qwints]

First of, Mufasa's cross-game posting has to stop - it's extremely confusing. Second, I think the changes in behavior noted by starbuck are what led to zwet's lynching. His job as a bulletproof townie was to act as obv-town as possible. He did not. That said, hammering less than ten minutes after the L-1 vote (especially by a newer player) is extremely suspicious. It looks noob-scum to me.

[Starbuck]

Mod: I thought the cross-posting issue was addressed. You said we can't post in other games, so people from other games shouldn't be able to post in our game, right?

Yeah. I'll now delete a person's post if they're not in this subgame.

[forbiddanlight]

I wouldnt be to quick to judge whoot as its his first game onsite but he still needs a good look at

Why are you posting in this game, Mufasa? I really don't want to have to slap a warning on you for it...

[Head_Honcho]

First of, Mufasa's cross-game posting has to stop - it's extremely confusing. Second, I think the changes in behavior noted by starbuck are what led to zwet's lynching. His job as a bulletproof townie was to act as obv-town as possible. He did not. That said, hammering less than ten minutes after the L-1 vote (especially by a newer player) is extremely suspicious. It looks noob-scum to me.

I don't know that Zwet was acting in an especially suspicious manner, the 'I only hammer' notion just needed to be discouraged. It's unfortunate that he had to claim, and he probably should have lied and claimed a protective role or something, but oh well. I'm going to have to agree about whoot. I generally try to stay completely clear of 'policy lynches' but in this case noob scum looks like the best explanation, especially since that's the only way scum can kill a bullet proof townie.

What do you think whoot, what made you want to drop the hammer so quickly?

[Percy]

zwet "only hammers" in most of the games I've seen. I wanted him lynched for completely different reasons, but I wanted a bit more time to mull over the details.

It's unfortunate that he had to claim, and he probably should have lied and claimed a protective role or something, but oh well.

Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more. Firstly, townies shouldn't lie. What if he was asked to protect someone later? Secondly, this could have outed an actual protective role if they were tempted to counterclaim. This sentence doesn't sit right with me at all.

However, I noticed the same thing you noticed with Boxman. Here's his contribution to the zwet wagon:

Vote: Zwet

For doing stuff I guess.

Zwet: Maybe focusing a little too much on the bastard mod aspect of Tar games. Seems neutral to me.

Uh, okay, I think that puts Zwet at L-2. Don't give him another vote until he either claims or refuses to claim, guys.

Anyway, bulletproof isn't exactly the best claim in the world. You have a name?

...Did you just hammer? Seriously?

I really don't like this. His random vote was never confirmed, explained or backed up - it just stayed there, and I think he doth protest too much towards the end.

Of all the people on the wagon, Boxman and whoot are the scummiest. noobscum hammer fits best.

[whoot1234]

I thought it was a policy lynch to lynch claimed Vanilla Townies

[Sudai]

Bah. I forgot the rule about us being able to talk at night because the thread was locked when I got back from V/LA. But for discussion.

Being new to this....
I am looking based on what is claimed and the actions that match his claimed name. I don't like his whole I am only going to hammer vote, and I don't believe that is a bullet proof townie thing to do.

I believe we have gained a good enough information for the hammer,

vote: Zwet

What?!

I thought it was a policy lynch to lynch claimed Vanilla Townies

Are you sure that's what your reason was? Look up at the quote above this one. It looks a bit different. I don't think there's any policy anywhere that says a quick lynch is good for a town in these kind of circumstances..

That said, zwet, after this game would you mind explaining the reasoning for why you acted the way you did as a bulletproiof and why you only hammer by policy? Those are two really intrigue me.

[Percy]

Nice try, scum. He claimed bulletproof. One of the most powerful pro-town roles. It's notoriously difficult for scum to get rid of bulletproof roles, for obvious reasons. Unless the opportunity to lynch them presents itself, which you eagerly took.

Also, policy lynching those who claim vanilla is really dumb. It makes actual vanilla townies fakeclaim.

Even if

you thought that he claimed vanilla - if you're going to lynch someone on

page eight

, doing it for policy reasons is retarded.