Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)

[Battle Mage]

I still want to hear Kmd's justification for his Battle Mage vote though.

Did you see how he acted like he was pretty much lynched after just two votes? Very defeatist.

Hi. Were you following the game early on? If so, why are you presenting this as a new point, when i did the exact same thing on Day 1?

BM

[Battle Mage]

We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.

Unfortunately Search is down right now.

since when did you consider me a dubious character?

BM

[Battle Mage]

Why are scum more likely to be defeatist than town?



And Spy, stop trying to chain-lynch me through others' alignments. You want to lynch me, come at me now. It's too easy for scum to control the game like that.

Gieff is clearly scum. The more i read his posts, the more i think that his attitude of asking questions to all and sundry isnt protown, its actually just a ruse. It works well for about 50 pages, but after that, people start to catch on that the questions mostly serve no real purpose, and are just a front. I like a Gieff lynch today. Continued gut feel.

BM

[Battle Mage]

And I'll vote/hammer him if he's going to be lynched.

I

seriously

don't see the issue here.

What do you think, Battle Mage?

lolwot? xD

BM

[Battle Mage]

I'm trying to limit the posting, but I figure that some content from me is better than no content from anybody?


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unvote

vote KMD

• KMD spent the majority of his effort on page 1 defending camn's scummy behavior, even though the points on which he caught camn-scum in a different game (outlined in Post 600) also applied to her behavior THIS game, as I pointed out in Post 602. Yet KMD never backed off his camn-defense, never stopped calling her obv-town.
  
  
• His Mastin vote was very weird, too. He excused it as soon as he made it by saying "either Mastin or camn is the lynch today" which wasn't the case at ALL.
  
  
• Even odder - two posts before his Mastin vote, he claimed he would rather lynch alex, me, or bcc instead of Mastin - Mastin was actually probably only 4 or 5 on his list. Yet, when given the opportunity to switch to alex, he did not. He NEVER unvoted Mastin until lynch went through, even though there were so many others he claimed to want to lynch.
  
  
• KMD tunneled in on me early on (jumping on as the 3rd vote), refusing to explain his reasoning until much, much later, when he could make something up. Today, he's jumped on the Battle Mage wagon (also as the 3rd vote), for ticky-tack reasons.

Was considering a KMD vote, until i read this ^.

Vote: DDD

Scummiest voter on the wagon.

BM

[Benmage]

I'm going to be V/LA till tuesday evening EST

[Battle Mage]

haha, dont make my mistake!

[Zachrulez]

We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.

Unfortunately Search is down right now.

Sens is quick in being critical of other players while clearly not practicing what he preaches, and the general defense for that seems to be meta. (The whole rant about having a make a case when he hasn't bothered to do this yet in the game.)

What I am finding interesting is how quickly KMD was run up to lynch -1, and how those same players who seem willing to run up multiple players without much of a care aren't quite as quick to place their vote on Sens.

Making me wonder.

[Zachrulez]

Why are scum more likely to be defeatist than town?



And Spy, stop trying to chain-lynch me through others' alignments. You want to lynch me, come at me now. It's too easy for scum to control the game like that.

Gieff is clearly scum. The more i read his posts, the more i think that his attitude of asking questions to all and sundry isnt protown, its actually just a ruse. It works well for about 50 pages, but after that, people start to catch on that the questions mostly serve no real purpose, and are just a front. I like a Gieff lynch today. Continued gut feel.

BM

I'm trying to limit the posting, but I figure that some content from me is better than no content from anybody?


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unvote

vote KMD

• KMD spent the majority of his effort on page 1 defending camn's scummy behavior, even though the points on which he caught camn-scum in a different game (outlined in Post 600) also applied to her behavior THIS game, as I pointed out in Post 602. Yet KMD never backed off his camn-defense, never stopped calling her obv-town.
  
  
• His Mastin vote was very weird, too. He excused it as soon as he made it by saying "either Mastin or camn is the lynch today" which wasn't the case at ALL.
  
  
• Even odder - two posts before his Mastin vote, he claimed he would rather lynch alex, me, or bcc instead of Mastin - Mastin was actually probably only 4 or 5 on his list. Yet, when given the opportunity to switch to alex, he did not. He NEVER unvoted Mastin until lynch went through, even though there were so many others he claimed to want to lynch.
  
  
• KMD tunneled in on me early on (jumping on as the 3rd vote), refusing to explain his reasoning until much, much later, when he could make something up. Today, he's jumped on the Battle Mage wagon (also as the 3rd vote), for ticky-tack reasons.

Was considering a KMD vote, until i read this ^.

Vote: DDD

Scummiest voter on the wagon.

BM

Question. You seem quite convinced of Gieff being scum, yet your vote finds it's way on DDD. Are you really more suspicious of DDD, or are you voting him because of the perception that he's easier to lynch?

I'm just wondering why you're not willing to vote Gieff is he's quite clearly scum...

[Battle Mage]

i was voting for him earlier, and nobody was interested. DDD seems lynchable, and he's more likely to be scum than Sens. Though, to be fair, DDD probably wouldnt rank in my top 3 suspects atm.

BM

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

SensFan (4): Benmage, Vi, GIEFF, Zachrulez
Kmd4390 (2): SensFan, Debonair Danny DiPietro
Battle Mage (2): alexhans, Kmd4390
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting: jammer, SpyreX

6 to lynch

[GIEFF]

Battle Mage, you have waffled so often on my alignment that I am surprised that you are now SO sure I am scum that my case on KMD is enough for you to not want to vote him.

You've done the "read alignment through others" trick before, to explain your turn-around on Mastin based on alex's scumminess. I assume this is similar? I am so scummy that KMD has to be town?

[Kmd4390]

I still want to hear Kmd's justification for his Battle Mage vote though.

Did you see how he acted like he was pretty much lynched after just two votes? Very defeatist.

Hi. Were you following the game early on? If so, why are you presenting this as a new point, when i did the exact same thing on Day 1?

BM

I don't remember seeing it before and I don't see anything in ISO.

[Vi]

What I am finding interesting is how quickly KMD was run up to lynch -1, and how those same players who seem willing to run up multiple players without much of a care aren't quite as quick to place their vote on Sens.

Making me wonder.

I agree with this.

Question. You seem quite convinced of Gieff being scum, yet your vote finds it's way on DDD. Are you really more suspicious of DDD, or are you voting him because of the perception that he's easier to lynch?

I'm just wondering why you're not willing to vote Gieff is he's quite clearly scum...

I also agree with this.

And I disbelieve basically everything Battle Mage just said.

We still need more SpyreX and jammer. More from Kmd would be nice.

[Kmd4390]

Vi, have I missed something?

[Kmd4390]

I have to leave for work any minute now, so if you haven't responded in about the next 5 minutes, I'll try to get to it tomorrow.

[Vi]

*checks time* Oh well.

I just have this pipe dream that people will freely volunteer their thoughts when they have them. It makes the game much easier.

Of course, if you don't want to make the game easy for me, please say so now. (okay, when you get back)

[Kmd4390]

I've given all of my thoughts. Was just asking if I'd missed something because you said you wanted to hear from me.

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage, you have waffled so often on my alignment that I am surprised that you are now SO sure I am scum that my case on KMD is enough for you to not want to vote him.

You've done the "read alignment through others" trick before, to explain your turn-around on Mastin based on alex's scumminess. I assume this is similar? I am so scummy that KMD has to be town?

No. Your case doesnt make me think KMD is scum. Once again, you have to make the distinction between what you TRY to say, and what actually comes across.

BM

[Battle Mage]

We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.

Unfortunately Search is down right now.

since when did you consider me a dubious character?

BM

Vi, feel free to answer this.

BM

[Vi]

We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.

Unfortunately Search is down right now.

since when did you consider me a dubious character?

BM

Vi, feel free to answer this.

BM

aquí
And your posts since then have been entirely less than convincing. For instance:

i was voting for

[DDD]

earlier, and nobody was interested.

I see you voting for him in 1572, and unvoting him in favor of alexhans in 1575 -

three posts later

.
In addition, Zachrulez was already voting for DDD at the time.
In addition to that, SpyreX and Benmage voted for DDD afterward but before

it became cool

I did.
Penn and Teller do not approve of this rhetoric.

[Battle Mage]

We need more of the dubious characters posting right about now.
By which I mean Battle Mage, Kmd, SpyreX, and jammer.
Some more Zach would be nice too (yes, I see your last post), because that vote post still bothers me.

Unfortunately Search is down right now.

since when did you consider me a dubious character?

BM

Vi, feel free to answer this.

BM

aquí
And your posts since then have been entirely less than convincing. For instance:

i was voting for

[DDD]

earlier, and nobody was interested.

I see you voting for him in 1572, and unvoting him in favor of alexhans in 1575 -

three posts later

.
In addition, Zachrulez was already voting for DDD at the time.
In addition to that, SpyreX and Benmage voted for DDD afterward but before

it became cool

I did.
Penn and Teller do not approve of this rhetoric.

Lol, i read as far as the point where you incorrectly amended my quote. Is there any point me reading on if you've based your post on something i havent said?

BM

[Vi]

Um... not really. I'll make another evaluation based on your

GIEFF

vote...

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Battle Mage, you have waffled so often on my alignment that I am surprised that you are now SO sure I am scum that my case on KMD is enough for you to not want to vote him.

It almost seems to me that his stance on you depends on what everyone else thinks of you. As soon as there's some active interest in you, he backs off and suggests you're town but when there's competing other wagons and little active interest in you suddenly he thinks you're scum again.

[GIEFF]

unvote

Vote Battle Mage