Mini 790- Skywalker Mafia: Game Over

ortolan · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:17 am

ZazieR I'm glad you had more fun killing me; than I did dying

Kise · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:21 am

Now that you mention it ort...

zwetschenwasser wrote:1 Semi-random Nexus

Abilities:
Redirect: You may PM me a player each night. Any action directed towards you will be redirected to your target player. This ability does not work on day actions, as the true power of Kai-Mone can only be unleashed under the light of the moon.

So the sitution w/ Zazie & Krer was not similar to bus-driving at all, like I thought. I should have seen both Sajin & Krer when I watched Zazie, eh?

Sajin · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:33 am

I think it would been fine you seeing either kreriov or myself in that circumstance but not both.

Sure though I think it would of been fine if you would of seen me. But seeing both would make zero sense.

True that watching me would probably be 1 town lynch then 1 scum lynch rather than 2 town lynches.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:35 am

Zazie explained my reasoning perfectly on the previous page.

Sajin · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:42 am

Also I would say that you would of seen me if you had targeted kreriov just fine.

Kise · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:47 am

Watcher is supposed to know who acted upon the person they're watching. Only Krer was listed as having acted upon Zazie.

Kise · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:50 am

Wait, so Sajin's kill was basically bestowed unto Krer?

Sironigous · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:51 am

Heheh.

Sajin! Why didn't you use your execution at all? Haha.. Or wait for the lynch?
... backwards recruitable? You thought I would become town? Heh.

Also!

Mafia Quicktopic 1 (Saj and I)

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/C2n8bfYkqrVW

Mafia Quicktopic 2 (Saj, Zaz, and I)

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/eYfc6PDfG2A

... I love how Zaz was right about Saj and I being scum. heheh.
Luckily she switched to our side...

Sironigous · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:53 am

Oh, on the town winning... Even if Starbuck hid behind a mafia, that mafia person wouldn't die... it would still be Starbuck, no?

1 Hider (can hide behind one player each night)

Welcome to Skywalker Mafia! You are the town’s least respected member, the cowardliest of the cowards, the Hider! You may hind behind one player every night. If the Mafia target you, the player you hid behind will die instead. But beware! If you hide behind mafia you might not be well received…

In summary, your abilities are:
Hide: You may hide behind a player every night, and redirect a night kill aimed at you towards your hide…ee?

If you hide behind mafia you will die.

Win Condition: All mafia-aligned players must die

Sajin · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:27 am

I had reason!

Siro, zwett ran a similar game on another forum.

http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic ... icID=28132

roles:

http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic ... e=7#276258

I don't think I was the only one who saw this based on the fact that someone voted the mod as a test vote. (which DID something in aforementioned game)

I had sole control over the mafia kill which I interpreted to mean that my goon was a traitor as described above.

Don't worry, this information hurt me more than it helped.

Kise · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:30 am

Wish you guys killed KoC

But CC watcher after/if I had saw who killed orto would not have worked. Town would have believed me since I was the 1st to mention who targeted who. You 3 made quite the team. When I'm mafia, I never get any active partners to NT with.

Sironigous · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:50 am

... great, my mafia buddy thought I would betraying him. -_-

Sajin, when didya figure out that the game was similar? Heh.

Sironigous · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:51 am

... sigh, was betraying...

I'm still really surprised everything went that smoothly in the beginning with Zaz and Krer and all..

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:20 am

My original setup did have a backwards recruitable mafia member, but my reviewers killed it.

Sajin · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:54 pm

See? I had reason.

ortolan · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:27 pm

wait was ZazieR initially town-aligned? I don't get that from the role pm

Sajin · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:31 pm

Initially not part of the mafia meetings but knew she was a traitor. If you were to target her I am not sure if she would of became town or if she would just be unrecruitable.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:38 pm

She would have become town.

ZazieR · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:06 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:She would have become town.

Oh? My role PM didn't mention that. I'd lose my ability to change into mafia, but I didn't know that my win con would change.

ZazieR · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:10 am

ortolan wrote:ZazieR I'm glad you had more fun killing me; than I did dying

Ah, but I still <3 you ^.^
It's just that for some strange reason, you always think I'm scum. Luckily, you have failed to get me lynched each time

Also, Sajin and Sironigous wanted you gone. I proposed a different NK of which I'm glad we didn't do. So it's not my fault you died.

ZazieR · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:14 am

Kise wrote:Wait, so Sajin's kill was basically bestowed unto Krer?

No. You saw it coming from Kreriov due to his ability. Just see it as a triangle.

1 (Zazie/Kise)

2 (Krer)......... 3 (Sajin)
(Don't pay attention to the dots)

Krer targeted Zazie, so all the night actions at him would go to Zazie.
Sajin targeted Krer, so his action went from Krer to Zazie.
In other words, 3 --> 2 --> 1
If Sajin had targeted, it would have been like this: 3 --> 1
In the first, you saw Krer target Zazie. In the second, you'd have seen Sajin target Zazie.
I hope this clears things up.

ZazieR · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:18 am

Sir wrote:Sajin! Why didn't you use your execution at all?

This! If you know how much I have hit my head as I was angry you didn't use it to get rid of Kise so that we'd win >.< I even hinted at it, here (Though not very clear):

ZazieR wrote:
Sajin wrote:I think zazier is more scummy then kise. Due to flavor, he is likely kemp.
Chasing ghosts again?
First of all, Kemp doesn't exist. I have already explained what happened to the NK of scum N1.
Secondly, Kise is caught scum.
How come you aren't trying to get a lynch against a player who is caught scum?

ZazieR · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:20 am

Zwet

Why was the mod-player dropped? Was it also killed by your reviewers?

ZazieR · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:23 am

Sironigous wrote:... sigh, was betraying...

I'm still really surprised everything went that smoothly in the beginning with Zaz and Krer and all..

You should be glad

If this hadn't happened, I'd have tried to get one of SSK, Sajin or you lynched. Also, the battle between Kise and Kreriov wouldn't have happened as it started after I had claimed that somebody tried to kill me N1.

Kreriov · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:01 am

I am not bothering to read most of this. I will not count this either way because the mod was jacked up. I kinda figured Kise was a townie but at that point did not care. That fact that Kise got the result he did was just plain stupid. I do nothing but sit at home and anyone comming to me is redirected elsewhere and somehow Kise sees me visit ZazieR? How? Thats bullshit. And why in the hell did Kise not see Sajin go try to kill Zazie? More bullshit. Pile on top of that a missing mod and the Skywalker thing making everyone think this might be Star Wars themed and you get at least one very dissappointed and pissed off player here.

Zwet, I will never play in another game modded by you.