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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:32 pm

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GIEFF wrote:I don't remember anybody accusing you of killing VP. Why the unnecessary defense?
This kind of thing is why you need to die.

Do you not think I am scum anymore?
Because thinking I am scum is synonymous with saying I killed VP.

Why the unnecessary questions?

Plus no.. I can count. I know it isn't the hammer.
That line was a pre-explanation for any hammering I may do now, or any time in the future.. with or without warning.
It is a clear statement of position. I am not voting for a trick, to gauge reactions, nor any other reason than the fact that
I want blood, and death, and destruction.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:37 pm

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Of course I think you're scum. I don't see why you are so concerned about being lynched with no votes and no pressure that you come out of the blue and say "I didn't kill Baltar."

They are not un-necessary at all. Time and time again, you've shown that you are far more concerned with looking townie or with staying alive than with helping the town find scum. Just one more action of yours that fits that pattern.


It's not day one anymore, by the way.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:56 pm

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Vote Count:


Cephrir (6): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Benmage, jammer, SpyreX, Zachrulez, camn
blackcatcontract (2): GIEFF, alexhans
Benmage (1): SensFan
GIEFF (1): Kmd4390
Zachrulez (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting: Cephrir, blackcatcontract

7 to lynch

Sigh. I'll just poke Cephrir and blackcatcontract now...
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:59 pm

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Thanks for the prods, Yaw - could you let us know in thread if/when they respond? I appreciate your work, and sorry we're making it hard on you.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:40 pm

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Unvote, Vote: Cephir


Haven't read a post since my last post.

See you all tomorrow.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:44 pm

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Let's hope you're 2/2 on the quicklynch, Sens....


How confident are you that Cephrir is scum?
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:46 pm

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GIEFF wrote:Let's hope you're 2/2 on the quicklynch, Sens....


How confident are you that Cephrir is scum?
It's a random lynch, as far as I'm concerned.

The Zazie quicklynch, I had her pegged as Scum.
This one, I saw it as being possibly the only chance for a lynch in a very long time. Besides, he was completely unreadable.
We'll get to lynching the actual scummy people tomorrow.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:48 pm

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Final Vote Count:


Cephrir (7): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Benmage, jammer, SpyreX, Zachrulez, camn, SensFan
blackcatcontract (2): GIEFF, alexhans
Benmage (1):
GIEFF (1): Kmd4390
Zachrulez (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting: Cephrir, blackcatcontract



The day passes in a blur. Before he has a chance to protest, or even say anything, Cephrir is grabbed and dragged to the kitchen. The mob sets on him with knives until he no longer moves. Searching his person, however, reveals no evidence he was involved in the murders.

Before retiring, it dawns on you that the bodies of the four dead are going to start getting rather unpleasant over the next few days, with no clue how long you will be stuck in the chalet. The best option anyone can think of is to move the bodies out into the snow, where the cold will keep them from smelling for a while. Everyone helps with the move, and with that accomplished, you head off to sleep.

Cephrir, Townie, lynched Day 2


It is now Night 3. Night will last until
Saturday, August 1 at Midnight Eastern Time
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:01 pm

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Another morning dawns. A quick glance outside as you wander to the kitchen reveals the snow outside has not lessened, and you are still cut off. Sighing, you raid the kitchen for perishables. You will have to start rationing soon.

No bodies in the kitchen today, or in the more comfortable areas of the ski lodge. For a second you think the nightmare has ended, until you once more look outside. One is out there, hanging by its neck from the lift lines. A group goes out to take a look, and cuts down a dead and frozen camn. A search reveals nothing that would connect her to the murders. You also find that whoever did this was thorough, as you can’t even find footprints in the snow to hint at the murderer.

When camn’s body is laid with the others, you return indoors for another day of investigation.

camn, Townie, killed night 3


It is now Day 3. Deadline for this day will be
Sunday, August 30 at midnight Eastern Time
. With 11 alive, it will take 6 to lynch.

Also, please note that SensFan is on V/LA until Tuesday night.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:19 pm

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Great Job everyone... Nice quicklynch.

specially Camn and SensFan...
FoS: SensFan
Don't hide behind your scummy meta of hammering without reason.

Vote Battle Mage


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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:11 pm

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Vote alexhans


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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:15 pm

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The hell? I'm really sorry, camn. I feel horrible - sorry if I ruined this game for you. Thanks, maffies. And thanks townies for not believing me.

Humbly yours,

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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:18 pm

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Sensfan wrote:
GIEFF wrote: Based on past experience, it may be a good idea to consider L-2 as L-1 in this game. Sens-scum may try to use his "I WILL QUICKHAMMER ANYBODY" meta to get away with a scum-hammer, or a misguided town-hammer.
If I think someone is Scum
, and they are at L-1, absolutely I will hammer. I expect the same of everyone else in this game.
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GIEFF wrote:How confident are you that Cephrir is scum?
It's a random lynch, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:19 pm

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Ok guys.

I've pulled the wagons on both lynches.

Mastin (8): Debonair Danny DiPietro, VP Baltar, Kmd4390, Zachrulez, SpyreX, GIEFF, Benmage, camn

Cephrir (7): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Benmage, jammer, SpyreX, Zachrulez, camn, SensFan

Now I feel that at least one scum was on both wagons, and I feel much more strongly that the cephrir lynch is more likely to have multiple scum on the wagon.

But sticking with what we know. We know VP Baltar and Camn were town on the Mastin wagon, and we know that Camn was town on the Cephrir wagon.

DDD, Benmage, Spyrex and myself were on both wagons, For what that's worth.

This is what I'm looking at for a starting point today. My mouth actually hit the floor on how quickly Cephrir was lynched, but that moment has passed and there's nothing we can do now but move forward and try to make the best of it by analyzing the voting patterns of everyone involved.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:23 pm

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I did a similar wagaon-analyis, Zach -

On both wagons: DDP (he was first on both wagons), Benmage, SpyreX, Zach, and camn

On neither wagon: bcc, alex, Battle Mage

On Mastin only: GIEFF, Kmd

On Cephrir only: jammer, Sensfan




it is REALLY damn lame that TWO townies lurked so horribly that they both got policy-lynched. I'm pissed as shit about it, and will never play a game with these two idiots again. It shows a lack of respect, and 60 fucking pages might as well be wasted because they couldn't be bothered post ONCE in a week. Ridiculous. Screw you both.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:29 pm

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DDD was first on both wagons?

I guess I missed him casting the first Mastin vote.

Strange.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:34 pm

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Very strange.



You are town, town, town, Zach. As is jammer, and Benmage is approaching it. But I am seriously lost with camn being town - her scumminess was so clear to me I was reading the whole game through that prism.


I hate analyzing nk's, but can anybody think of any reason they would kill camn? She wasn't helping us scumhunt, a few people thought she was scum besides me, and I for sure would have kept tunneling on her today. It doesn't make any sense.


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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:58 pm

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Ok, I tried using GIEFF's and Zach's, but I'm doing this my way.
End of Day 1 VC wrote:
Mastin
(8): Debonair Danny DiPietro,
VP Baltar
, Kmd4390, Zachrulez, SpyreX, GIEFF, Benmage,
camn

Battle Mage (2):
Mastin
, alexhans
alexhans (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting:
Cephrir
, blackcatcontract, SensFan, jammer
End of Day 2 VC wrote:
Cephrir
(7): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Benmage, jammer, SpyreX, Zachrulez,
camn
, SensFan
blackcatcontract (2): GIEFF, alexhans
Benmage (1):
GIEFF (1): Kmd4390
Zachrulez (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting:
Cephrir
, blackcatcontract
I agree with Zach we can find at least one scum on each lynch.

DDD, myself, Zach, Spy, GIEFF, and Benmage were on the Mastin lynch. 1-2 scum here. I personally can eliminate myself. I have a town read on Benmage. DDD, Zach, Spy, GIEFF contains 1-2 scum.

Alex and BM were voting each other end of Day 1. I usually say one scum is voting off the wagon. Possible, but two townies voting each other is also common. Gonna have to call this null I guess as lame as that is.

I also say a scum didn't vote. Black, Sens, and Jammer. Black was catching up, but did have time, so he's included.

So from Day 1, let's say 2 scum in DDD/Zach/Spy/GIEFF/Benmage (edited in. see Day 2), one in Alex/BM, and one in Black/Sens/Jammer.

Day 2:
DDD, Benmage, Jammer, Spy, Zach, and Sens on the lynch. Town read on Benmage, although him being on both wagons kind of lessens that. Ok, let me edit Benmage back into the Mastin-lynch group.

GIEFF/Alex/BM were on other wagons. If someone was off of both lynches, but voting, I usually pick them as scum who plays by avoiding being on mislynches. BM fits this. Hmm. So does Alex. Maybe it's even plausible that they were distancing Day 1. The kind of player Mastin is though, I doubt only one scum voted him. So I expect two on Mastin's lynch IF BM and Alex are scum. That makes Black, Sens, and Jammer more likely town IF BM or Alex is scum.

Then again, GIEFF was on the Mastin lynch, but not Ceph. Black, again, wasn't voting.

K, who do I think is scum?
Black
Zach
GIEFF
Alex
BM
Jammer

^4 of those 6 are scum. If Alex and BM are BOTH scum, take Jammer off this list. I'm thinking it's more likely that only one is scum.

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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:05 pm

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KMD -

Why did you think camn was town? She did not play to her town meta in this game.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:06 pm

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I thought she was playing to her town meta.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:08 pm

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No.

You voted me for no reason whatsoever, and then immediately took the opposite position I did.



When camn is town, she scumhunts, and is agressive. She showed none of that in this game. Which parts of her town meta did you think she played to?
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:10 pm

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She is aggressive late in a game. Not on Day 1 of any game or Day 2 of a large.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:30 pm

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I get the sense that camn is just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world, and would be prone to taking a midnight train going anywhere. Do you really think this fits her town meta?
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:50 pm

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SensFan wrote:I'm not going to end discussion and quickhammer.
I meant that as in days dragging on and on without anyone having the balls to hammer.
SensFan wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Cephir


Haven't read a post since my last post.

See you all tomorrow.
Huh? :?


Also, bcc it's time you post something.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:10 pm

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Yes, I don't see how a lurker-lynch could possibly go wrong, guys. It's been an excellent strategy so far.

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