Considering the mechanics, I don't think this is a game where people proving their role through night actions is always the best idea.charter wrote:Dumb to claim with just three votes, but it will be easy for him to prove tonight if he's telling the truth.
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Yeah. I figured that's what that was...Battle Mage wrote:
I breadcrumbed the fact that i forgot to submit a kill. lolBattle Mage wrote:
3) The guard forgot they were a guard. *facepalm* lolveerus wrote:
I agree with this. I originally thought that you would be infected but then I remembered about scientists which would make you the #1 vaccination target. I think we're likely looking for someone who seemed town-ish D1.populartajo wrote: I think he went with a safe option. I think his most logic reasoning would be to :
a)Infect someone more experienced than him.
b)Infect someone that wouldnt be targeted for vaccination.
I know there are some that fit this group. I dont think its basically day 1 again since there are some people less likely to be infected.
What does it mean that there was likely no guard kill? I can think of 2 scenarios:
1) guard got lucky and killed another infected, meaning mod's post is a bit misleading
2) we have no guard.. I'm inclined to believe that this is the case due to the phrasing of the mod post.
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Missed this. If there's a scientist, then they protect BM tonight. If BM is indeed a guard, then someone else will die (most likely a townie, but whatever) confirming him for tomorrow (plus the added benefit of him hopefully shooting an infected). If he's scum, there will just be an infection, and we lynch him tomorrow. Of course, all this hinges on a scientist, so hopefully there is one (I'm willing to risk it anyhow).The Replacement wrote:
Considering the mechanics, I don't think this is a game where people proving their role through night actions is always the best idea.charter wrote:Dumb to claim with just three votes, but it will be easy for him to prove tonight if he's telling the truth.-
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Actually... the kill should show up as getting shot rather than die by infection if he kills an infected. Having a guaranteed confirmed town even for a day is beneficial. And if he's lying it will mean a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow.
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Going to say anything other than just unvoting? It looks like you've seen the light on BM, but who is your top suspect now?The Replacement wrote:Actually... the kill should show up as getting shot rather than die by infection if he kills an infected. Having a guaranteed confirmed town even for a day is beneficial. And if he's lying it will mean a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow.
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I think directing the scientist is a poor idea.charter wrote:
Missed this. If there's a scientist, then they protect BM tonight. If BM is indeed a guard, then someone else will die (most likely a townie, but whatever) confirming him for tomorrow (plus the added benefit of him hopefully shooting an infected). If he's scum, there will just be an infection, and we lynch him tomorrow. Of course, all this hinges on a scientist, so hopefully there is one (I'm willing to risk it anyhow).The Replacement wrote:
Considering the mechanics, I don't think this is a game where people proving their role through night actions is always the best idea.charter wrote:Dumb to claim with just three votes, but it will be easy for him to prove tonight if he's telling the truth.
Actually we're best off letting them act alone to try and negate a scumkill.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Maybe a Kelly Chen lynch is a good idea.Vote: Kelly Chen
Anyone else want to weigh in?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Then i dont see why me being protected is an issue if i am infected?charter wrote:Well, it was also in case you're scum and trying to just buy time until tonight, if you get protected and you're infected and try to infect someone tonight, then you obviously aren't a guard and we lynch you tomorrow. But whatever, not directing power role actions is a good point.
Either way, the Scientist should try and out-WIFOM the scum.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Do you really think that one post by Chen made Malthisus feel like infecting her BM?The Front Page wrote:If you vaccinate an infected player, you prevent them from infecting that night."By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest." -Confucius-
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She is an experienced player and not as likely to be protected as Poptaj.Shotty to the Body wrote:
Do you really think that one post by Chen made Malthisus feel like infecting her BM?The Front Page wrote:If you vaccinate an infected player, you prevent them from infecting that night.
Truthfully, she'd be my pick for infection if i was scum. Or maybe Charter.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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BM, I had a quick look at the game you linked - I still think there were three scum in our game. Usually the cult can grow in numbers by recruiting, but in our game scum cannot exceed their original count.
Why did you claim now?
A guard kill will only confirm BM for today, not tomorrow.charter wrote: Missed this. If there's a scientist, then they protect BM tonight. If BM is indeed a guard, then someone else will die (most likely a townie, but whatever) confirming him for tomorrow (plus the added benefit of him hopefully shooting an infected). If he's scum, there will just be an infection, and we lynch him tomorrow. Of course, all this hinges on a scientist, so hopefully there is one (I'm willing to risk it anyhow).
unvote. I'm willing to give BM a chance to prove his claim (unless there is no better suspect).
vote: veerusIf BM isn't the third scum from yesterday, then veerus is. I will look for possible infectees next.ShowThe youths who frequent picture palaces
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I have serious computer problems and will V/LA. If I can't get regular access within a few days, I will notify you somehow. Sorry.ShowThe youths who frequent picture palaces
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Less likely, maybe, but I was thinking there was a decent chance I get protected... If it's so obvious that pop is the one to protect, then scum shouldn't want to touch him. Protect somebody else. That increases the odds that scum fail to cult, and if they have the balls to cult pop anyway, what are you really out? Especially considering you can only protect somebody once in this game.Battle Mage wrote:
She is an experienced player and not as likely to be protected as Poptaj.Shotty to the Body wrote:
Do you really think that one post by Chen made Malthisus feel like infecting her BM?The Front Page wrote:If you vaccinate an infected player, you prevent them from infecting that night.
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So could I. Scum can afford to be pretty aggressive today.charter wrote:I could go for a RV lynch today perhaps.
Unless of course, that aggressive scumbag is you.
But, i still kinda feel like Kelly Chen is a more likely infect option...Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Just coz? I figured i was on a slippery slope, and a pretty big slap was dueRally Vincent wrote:BM, I had a quick look at the game you linked - I still think there were three scum in our game. Usually the cult can grow in numbers by recruiting, but in our game scum cannot exceed their original count.
Why did you claim now?
A guard kill will only confirm BM for today, not tomorrow.charter wrote: Missed this. If there's a scientist, then they protect BM tonight. If BM is indeed a guard, then someone else will die (most likely a townie, but whatever) confirming him for tomorrow (plus the added benefit of him hopefully shooting an infected). If he's scum, there will just be an infection, and we lynch him tomorrow. Of course, all this hinges on a scientist, so hopefully there is one (I'm willing to risk it anyhow).
unvote. I'm willing to give BM a chance to prove his claim (unless there is no better suspect).
vote: veerusIf BM isn't the third scum from yesterday, then veerus is. I will look for possible infectees next.[/quote]
Evidently you havent listened to anything that's been said today. I
Can't see any logic for a Veerus lynch today. He clearly wasnt infected.
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I'm thinking there were three scum, because otherwise a D1 scum lynch and N1 culting failure is already a town win.
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Scummy in hindsight. Especially since later it didn't seem that he did think fallen was all that scummy for this.veerus wrote:I agree with tajo on this one. FA's vote on PP is opportunistic and a feeble attempt at making a mountain out of a mole hill and will vote him if we get closer to the deadline.
However..
unvote; vote: rally vincent
It also seems like he tried to add steam to the Kise wagon over the fallen wagon (or his own wagon), for little stated reason:
very unlike how PP was...?In addition to these two (especially Rally as Shotty's been relatively active in the other discussions) my other suspect is Kise. I'm having a hard time putting my finger on it exactly but his posts strike me as very scummy and very unlike how PP was (outside of his crazy idea).
But if I have a look here on page 15.
It was 3 veerus (including malthusis, who put him in the lead), 2 Mokina, 2 fallen, 2 Kise (including fallen), 1 Rally.
Kise goes to 3 with Kid's vote (he wasn't voting)
veerus down to 2 and fallen up to 3 with Rally moving from veerus to fallen.
Shotty asks Rally why Kise. Shotty's voting veerus... if anything seems like seeking a reason to move to Kise... on the other hand I'm pretty sure we didn't have four scum so nevermind.
veerus moves from Rally to fallen, so that's 4 fallen. That seems odd if veerus is scum. It looks like veerus had a choice, and he didn't choose what you would expect based on his second-to-last post. On the other hand, pop had stated by now that fallen was the only realistic lynch choice. So if veerus is scum the question is more like, why did he post at all, he could've just lurked through the deadline.
I vote fallen -> 5 votes
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BM, your quote tag is messed up and it looks like you unvoted & voted for me.
KC, I meant that Kise's playstyle was very different from how PP was playing and it is my belief that such a difference likely implies a scum replacement since everyone has their own idea of how to play scum best while there's usually only one way to play townie.On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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