Mini 754 - Frogs Mafia Game, Set and Match.

[Xylthixlm]

So, just so I'm clear...

I replace into the game, take more time than expected to read the 40-page game, realize I should just hold back my suspicions until today, and I'm being lynched for that?

When, exactly, did you finish reading?

[ChannelDelibird]

Uh, yes, if by 'realised you should just hold your suspicions back until today' you mean 'neglected to contribute your suspicions while we mislynched'. Also, CK was mildly scummy to begin with.

[SensFan]

So, just so I'm clear...

I replace into the game, take more time than expected to read the 40-page game, realize I should just hold back my suspicions until today, and I'm being lynched for that?

When, exactly, did you finish reading?

Late at night on Sunday the 21st.

[Xylthixlm]

So, just so I'm clear...

I replace into the game, take more time than expected to read the 40-page game, realize I should just hold back my suspicions until today, and I'm being lynched for that?

When, exactly, did you finish reading?

Late at night on Sunday the 21st.

Did you decide CKD was scummy before or after finishing your read?

[Xylthixlm]

Much rather lynch Xyl over Izzy.

Who's your third choice (presumably after me and lazarusmoth)?

^ I just noticed this post. lazarusmoth isn't in this game. Apparently I got my games confused somehow...

[SensFan]

So, just so I'm clear...

I replace into the game, take more time than expected to read the 40-page game, realize I should just hold back my suspicions until today, and I'm being lynched for that?

When, exactly, did you finish reading?

Late at night on Sunday the 21st.

Did you decide CKD was scummy before or after finishing your read?

I don't understand the question.

[Xylthixlm]

From my read:
I think CDB and ckd are Scum.

You decided that ckd is Scum as a result of your read. Did you decide that while you were reading, or only after you were finished?

[SensFan]

From my read:
I think CDB and ckd are Scum.

You decided that ckd is Scum as a result of your read. Did you decide that while you were reading, or only after you were finished?

I still

really

don't get it...

But to try and answer, I found him scummy as I read the thread. How can you suddenly find someone scummy when you finish?

[Xylthixlm]

From my read:
I think CDB and ckd are Scum.

You decided that ckd is Scum as a result of your read. Did you decide that while you were reading, or only after you were finished?

I still

really

don't get it...

But to try and answer, I found him scummy as I read the thread. How can you suddenly find someone scummy when you finish?

Okay. Next question then.

Were you following new posts to the thread as you did your read?

[Xylthixlm]

SensFan has been posting elsewhere (GD, Mish Mash, Coney Island...) but hasn't answered the question. It's a very simple question, he shouldn't have any reason to be stalling.

vote: SensFan

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm ready to

Vote: SensFan

.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sens is not in my top two list because.....you and CDB are....as you two were yesterday.

lol, yeah I bet you are

[curiouskarmadog]

fine...

vote SensFan

[Xylthixlm]

I have a baaaaaaaaaaad feeling here

[Xylthixlm]

I had this feeling earlier when CDB was talking about my lack of vote that

he

was goading

me

into voting.

If it turns out to be CDB+CKD as scum, I'm going to kick myself. Then I'm going to kick SensFan.

[MacavityLock]

Ok, back from moving. Waiting for Shanba I guess.

[Shanba]

FINAL vote count

(of day 4)

3: SensFan

(Xylthixlm, Channeldelibird, curiouskarmadog)
Not Voting:

SensFan, MacavityLock

But is it actually the final vote count?

[curiouskarmadog]

But is it actually the final vote count?

I guess so since the roles are on the first page.

In game thoughts mod?

[Shanba]

SensFan lies dead before the last 4 survivors of the little town where you all live. Or lived, in the case of the majority of you. But was he trying to kill you? Each of the survivors looks at the others, wondering why this time there has been no divine revelation, why the great God of Frog is not letting you know his alignment.

SensFan, Fire-Bellied Toad, lynched Day 4

Time passes...

Up in the heavens, the great God of Frog has issues of his own, and his eyes are filled with a mixture of fear and contempt. For in front of him stands the Monkey God, the trickster who delights in causing misery and confusion, the brightest of the pantheon and he has a smile on his face. Or rather, a smirk

"Oh, the mighty Frog. HAHAHAHA. Swamps and hoppers, that's all you care about. You've overstepped your boundaries by interfering here, Frog. These are my subjects, my people. You are in violation of the sacred rules of the gods, and the Lion King will have no choice but to exile you."

Monkey stops, and points at him.

"And you couldn't even save them anyway. HAHAHAHA. Frogs are such losers."

SensFan,

Townie

, Fire Bellied Toad, lynched Day 4

Frog looks down, looks all around and smiles. There is a glint in his whirring eyes. "And what is your interest here?" he asks Monkey. "Can you prove these beings are as you say?"

"What? Well of course I can, it was my spell after all. Look, I'll reveal the survivors now"

"What survivors?"

And indeed, there is no one left in the little desolate swamp that had been the source of Frog's worries for so long. All that remains are corpses. Ducks, frogs, even a dragon. But no humans, no monkeys, nothing that Monkey could point to as his domain. And though Duck was Frog's enemy, Duck would not interfere on Monkey's behalf. "The game is up, Monkey."

Xylthixlm and MacavityLock, Donkey and Poison Dart Frog

Gaoler and Townie

, endgamed

But the truth was simply this: no matter Monkey's failure, the evil impostors had got what they wanted. The town was emptied and the mining companies could move in. The only issue for ChannelDelibird and curiouskarmadog, who had scampered at the strange noises coming form the heavens, that remained was how to transform themselves back to humans. After all, Iguanas and Tree Frogs don't get to enjoy being obscenely rich as much as humans do.

ChannelDelibird,

Goon

, Tree Frog; curiouskarmadog,

Vote Condenser

, Iguana and Gorrad,

Traitor

, BullFrog have won Frogs Mafia.

[Shanba]

Okay, where to begin?

I enjoyed modding this game immensely. I was pleased that all the way through days 1 and two activity was high, prods were needed only occasionally and I barely needed to replace anyone. It was a shame that the game stalled day 3: every time it seemed to be the top suspects who disappeared at the crucial stages, be it Raging Rabbit, DizzyIzzyB13, heh. I think the game stalled a bit there, but I'm not sure what I could have done to stop it from stalling. Day 4 was a bit meh. Scum victory never seemed in doubt once CKD was not lynched.

I'm slightly concerned about the balance of this game. I think it was scum favouring: the neighbours/jailkeepers/1-shot vig was not enough to counterbalance three scum, even one scum split off from the group. I'm coming round to the idea that turning one scum into a traitor is not actually a massive disadvantage, and scum had a lot going for them. I expected at least one kill to be blocked by the Gaolers. But on the other hand, town were never really close to lynching scum apart from ckd on Day 3.

Dayvigs are an awesome and underused role.

The Vote Condenser was part of a theme that was running through the game of challenging the meta. The neighbours were both town. There were doubles of roles. There were doubles of rolenames, which was to me far more interesting. Not all the players were Frogs in a game called Frogs Mafia (note - the names for the roles were assigned almost at random, with the exception of Pelican for Gaoler and Dragon for dayvig.) The Dragon's kill method was supposed to be deliberately misleading - no plumes of fire, no incinerations. I briefly considered insinuating he was actually an octopus, but I thought better of that in the setup stages.

Vote Condenser was an interesting role and a take on the Vote Thief role. Vote Thieves are generally considered so powerful in the hands of scum that they have to be town. As such, in the theme of challenging the meta, defying expectations, I wanted to try and find a way of creating a vote thief who could be scum. ckd's ability only worked against other scum. This also gave scum a way of identifying the traitor.

Good Game scum.

[mikeburnfire]

Horray. It's finally over. Good game, scum. I'm not really surprised that ckd was scum, but dahill was very convincing. Gorrad too, I suppose. And again, nice kill Sensfan.

Thanks for modding, Shanba.

[SensFan]

SensFan has been posting elsewhere (GD, Mish Mash, Coney Island...) but hasn't answered the question. It's a very simple question, he shouldn't have any reason to be stalling.

vote: SensFan

I'm so sorry that I should go 24 hours without posting in this thread.

[Xylthixlm]

SensFan has been posting elsewhere (GD, Mish Mash, Coney Island...) but hasn't answered the question. It's a very simple question, he shouldn't have any reason to be stalling.

vote: SensFan

I'm so sorry that I should go 24 hours without posting in this thread.

Your not posting anything the previous day was so suspicious that I was pretty sure you were scum. (dahill had me totally fooled.) I was asking you questions to try to give you a chance to convince me I was wrong.

CDB did do an excellent goad, though. I noticed it and still fell for it.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sens, feel free to replace into any game that I am scum in. Do not blame Xyl, you were spouting nonsense and lurking at the end. If alignments had been reversed I would have done the EXACT same thing Xyl did today.

Well, Day 3 didnt really do the way I wanted...I felt dahill had slipped in reference to the traitor and I found my self defending me. to counter that, I attacked him with a bad "case". I was actually hoping to get lynched to (hopfully in the eyes of the town) auto-confirm dahill/CDB. My "case" was just that....silly. though when I do play town, I look for things like that, but that REALLY was a stretch...as it turns out though, I was right about dahill, he really didnt want any old cases of mine and it was a slip on his part, though a small one. I enjoyed bumping heads with Xyl..for a moment I thought you were getting the best of me, then Dizzy saved me....luckily I didnt have to jump on the wagon.

thanks for the game.

mod, was there anyway for us to recruit gorrad (ie talk to him at night?)...would killing him, indeed killed him?

[curiouskarmadog]

do=go