Mini 790- Skywalker Mafia: Game Over

[ZazieR]

On Sir:

-Reasons for voting Ad. Very scummy.
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On that note, Zaz and Sajin, do you have any views on Krer and Ort at the moment?

Not liking this, as he did not state an opinion against either Krer or Bear.
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From 548 to 571 Ort and Krer are going back in forth.

574 (after 2 mod posts) millar comes in with something completely irrelevant to what they were saying.

strawman + distraction?

Very scummy reason to vote.

[ZazieR]

On Ad:

-Directing the scum kill (I''m real confused about it >.<)
-The back tracking regarding confirmed miller.
-Difference in his role PM with Rox. (This counts for Rox as well)
-Fishing

[ZazieR]

And Star, I was right. If you hadn''t pointed my PR mistake out, Zwet would have most likely missed it as he missed another one during my analysis.

[ZazieR]

So, let''s see

Scum:
Rox

Azh

Ying
Sir

Neu:
Lab/Look
Sting/Kise
Threep/Star
Ad

San/

"M"

Town:
Krer
Cud Bear

Will check soon who of the players on the list of scummy players will get my vote, after I get back.

[ZazieR]

Vote Sironigous

[Starbuck]

And Star, I was right. If you hadn''t pointed my PR mistake out, Zwet would have most likely missed it as he missed another one during my analysis.

I didn't mean to do so. I was trying to figure out what your PR was all about.

But it doesn't affect you anymore, correct?

[Starbuck]

On Threep/Star

-Threep would not mind an Ad lynch, but did not vote him.
-Star pointed out that a miller is not always told that he is one. So I find it rather strange that she is suspicious of the millers.

After the misunderstanding (

of my PR and punishment if I break it

), she gets more silent and starts talking about offtopic stuff.

So I hope to hear her opinion of the

"M"

lynch.
And what she thinks of the millers now.

I am suspicious of people claiming millers, if theoretically, they aren't told.

I did find millar scummy. You can be town and still be scummy.


On the off topic matter, I was trying to welcome our new player, but apparently that's wrong.

[ZazieR]

And Star, I was right. If you hadn''t pointed my PR mistake out, Zwet would have most likely missed it as he missed another one during my analysis.

I didn't mean to do so. I was trying to figure out what your PR was all about.

But it doesn't affect you anymore, correct?

It doesn''t matter. I just like pointing out that I''m right
And we''ll probably never learn if Zwet had missed it if you didn''t point it out.

I don''t have my PR anymore, but I''ll need one less vote to get lynched in this game as was pointed out by the mod.

[ZazieR]

On Threep/Star

-Threep would not mind an Ad lynch, but did not vote him.
-Star pointed out that a miller is not always told that he is one. So I find it rather strange that she is suspicious of the millers.

After the misunderstanding (

of my PR and punishment if I break it

), she gets more silent and starts talking about offtopic stuff.

So I hope to hear her opinion of the

"M"

lynch.
And what she thinks of the millers now.

I am suspicious of people claiming millers, if theoretically, they aren't told.
And you had already responded to the miller and millar parts.

I did find millar scummy. You can be town and still be scummy.


On the off topic matter, I was trying to welcome our new player, but apparently that's wrong.

The only thing wrong about going off-topic is that it doesn''t give us the opportunity to get a read on you. That''s why you are in the ''neutral-block''.

[ZazieR]

On Threep/Star

-Threep would not mind an Ad lynch, but did not vote him.
-Star pointed out that a miller is not always told that he is one. So I find it rather strange that she is suspicious of the millers.

After the misunderstanding (

of my PR and punishment if I break it

), she gets more silent and starts talking about offtopic stuff.

So I hope to hear her opinion of the

"M"

lynch.
And what she thinks of the millers now.

I am suspicious of people claiming millers, if theoretically, they aren't told.

I did find millar scummy. You can be town and still be scummy.


On the off topic matter, I was trying to welcome our new player, but apparently that's wrong.

The only thing wrong about going off-topic is that it doesn''t give us the opportunity to get a read on you. That''s why you are in the ''neutral-block''.
And you had already responded to the miller and millar parts.

Sorry
I had put the last sentence in the quote box from Star in the previous post >.<

[Sajin]

I assume you mean post restriction by PR correct?

[ZazieR]

I assume you mean post restriction by PR correct?

Yes, why are you asking?

[Starbuck]

I assume you mean post restriction by PR correct?

Yes, why are you asking?

Speaking for me,

PR as Post Restriction can be easily confused with PR as Power Role, which was part of why I was confused while I was playing the replacement catch up game yesterday.

[zwetschenwasser]

So I found a computer over here, so I can check in, but I still have very limited access... so I still need you Slicey!

[MafiaSSK]

On Rox:

-Voting claimed miller only after somebody else did, while saying millers are always good D1 lynches.

How does this contribute?

-Not asking the mod for a win condition at the start of the game.

It said Chocolate

Townie

. I didn't neeed a win con

-back tracking regarding confirmed millers.

?

-''Quoting'' the part of him knowing, thinking and feeling nothing from his role PM , while not wanting to quote his win condition.

I didn't want another violation

-Not asking the mod if he was a mil, while guessing he was one at the start of this game (had not seen this one before)

I wasn't necessarily thinking I was a miller

-Still not having giving his list (scummy, because he wants to hear one from

"M"

, while not giving one himself) He also has not explained why he thinks

"M"

is scum, other than stating that he agrees with Kise

Where did I say this

.

[Azhrei]

Bah

[zwetschenwasser]

Please note that all post restriction violations discovered yesterday still affect the vote count. Even though I didn't catch them all, the ones pointed out still affect the votes required to lynch the offender

[ZazieR]

On Rox:

-Voting claimed miller only after somebody else did, while saying millers are always good D1 lynches.

How does this contribute?

-Not asking the mod for a win condition at the start of the game.

It said Chocolate

Townie

. I didn't neeed a win con

-back tracking regarding confirmed millers.

?

-''Quoting'' the part of him knowing, thinking and feeling nothing from his role PM , while not wanting to quote his win condition.

I didn't want another violation

-Not asking the mod if he was a mil, while guessing he was one at the start of this game (had not seen this one before)

I wasn't necessarily thinking I was a miller

-Still not having giving his list (scummy, because he wants to hear one from

"M"

, while not giving one himself) He also has not explained why he thinks

"M"

is scum, other than stating that he agrees with Kise

Where did I say this

.

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How does this contribute

You say that millers are good day 1 lynches. Yet, you didn''t vote the claimed miller right away. Only after you noticed a vote against the claimed miller, you voted as well. This gives me the impression that you didn''t want to draw unwanted attention.
But answer this: Why didn''t you vote the claimed miller right away when you think a claimed miller is a good day 1 lynch?
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It said chocolate

townie

. I didn''t need a win condition

Then explain this quote:

Orto, I've already sent a PM to Zwet asking such

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?

You first stated that you supposed that ThAd was confirmed town. Later when I asked if he really was, you said yes. Later, you said that the other chocolate

townie

could be scum as Zwet could be a bastard mod. In the end, we''ve also got this quote:

MafiaSSK: if your role explicitly states there is another miller who is town and chocolate, why did you ever suggest ThAdmiral was a good day one lynch?

You can never be 100% sure of anything.

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I didn''t want another violation

The part of the win con came before the part of not knowing, feeling and thinking anything. So how could it have been another violation?
Real reason?
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I wasn't necessarily thinking I was a miller

Then please explain this quote:

I was guessing I was a miller but wasn't sure. Ad confirmed my beliefs

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Where did I say this

:

Damnit. Kise said what I was going to say about scummy millar. I had it all saved up on my notes and everything except, it wasn't so long.

Unvote, vote Kise

[ZazieR]

Finally found the player I was looking for.

@Zazier - ThAdmiral might have been fishing a bit, but so what. This is a theme game. At some point it is going to come down to everyone talking about their character. I think there are things in our role PMs that are meant to be shared. That whole 'think, feel, know nothing' thing means something as does the chocolate townsperson thing. Do you think it not worth it to discuss these things? Big difference between that and saying I am the doc or the cop or whatever. I know my role/character come right out of the Star Wars universe. Maybe it would not be good to say I am Luke or Kenobi or whatever, but I do not think the flavor is just flavor. I think it has meaning.

Can you elaborate on this now that it''s known that there is no star wars theme in this game?

[ThAdmiral]

O snap, that is a good catch.

[Sironigous]

On Sir:

-Reasons for voting Ad. Very scummy.
-

On that note, Zaz and Sajin, do you have any views on Krer and Ort at the moment?

Not liking this, as he did not state an opinion against either Krer or Bear.

ah, this is a reason to vote?

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From 548 to 571 Ort and Krer are going back in forth.

574 (after 2 mod posts) millar comes in with something completely irrelevant to what they were saying.

strawman + distraction?

Very scummy reason to vote.

It is? why?

[Kreriov]

@ZazieR - Yes. My role IS Star-Wars themed, or at least I think/thought it is/was. I am not that familiar with the Star Wars universe outside of the movies (i.e. I only read one or two books), but when I see words like Nexus and Kai-Mone in my pm coupled with the title of SkyWalker, it sure sounds like Star Wars to me. You can consider those both claims as well if you want, of both role and affiliation. I can certainly try to describe them in more detail if you would like. I will try to do so without quoting my pm should you wish me to do so.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Vote: Kreriov

until he explains that bullcrap about claiming a Star Wars theme when that's obviously not the case, especially looking at my role, which seems to confirm itself town when I'm lynched.

[Sironigous]

On the night action part...

Post 735 Zwet says that night would after a maximum period of a week.
(Beginning on Monday, June 22)

Well, we began in 5 days. - Post 742
(Saturday, June 27)

So like Zaz said, I do agree with her "B" point - there probably is another protective role.

or they targeted someone else and there is another protective role

[Kreriov]

I think Knight and I cross posted. As I mentioned, it sure sounded to me like a Star Wars theme in my PM. About the only thing not 'Star Warsy' in my PM was the fact it said I was in a small Italian town. None of the stuff makes much sense to me outside of a possible Star Wars or at least sci-fi context.

As I mentioned above, if anyone would like me to try and better expand on my role/abilities then I will try to do so as best I can. I am tempted to try and do so anyway, as I now am no longer sure about some of the things I had read. There are a few very specific parts, such as me being absolutely sure I am immune to the Doc's protections. There are some I am less sure about now