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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:25 am

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Vig Vote Tally


Pablo-3.5 (Amished, Setael, Xtoxm, Tajo)

Sironi-3 (Pyro, Zwet, Naomi)
Setael-2 (Pablo, Lamont)
Devastation-1 (Stepho)
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:47 am

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unvote, vote sateal
Shadow knight was lurker scum.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:54 am

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^^^Explain, plz.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:58 am

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I don't think shadow knight ever said anything that contributed.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:00 am

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Also, he uses outguessing the mod to support his points. Has anybody thought of the possibility that there could be a SK and one of the factions got their kill blocked?
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:04 am

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I was also wondering why you used the word "
was
lurker scum."
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:14 am

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Because shadow knight has been replaced, no?
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:15 am

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Oh, never mind
unvote
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:19 am

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Elmo wrote:OMG, HI SETAEL~!

hiallwhosscum?
Naomi.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:20 am

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Pyromaniac wrote:@amished why did you protect naomi? She is the top scumspect.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:23 am

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vote sateal
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:48 am

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can someone condense all those into one post?
I wrttoe htis sginautre wiht my elbwo.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:48 am

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Vig Vote Tally


Pablo-3.5 (Amished, Setael, Xtoxm, Tajo)

Setael-3 (Pablo, Lamont, Pyro)
Sironi-2 (Zwet, Naomi)
Devastation-1 (Stepho)
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:00 am

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Hi Elmo!

This game is just laughable.

The votes are piling on me because supposedly I'm trying to get Amished killed - is that it? You folks need to learn how to read. I do find his claim suspicious, but I certainly do not think he should be killed. I would not vote him or vote to vig him today, and I would be suspicious of anyone who did. I do, however, think his claim is overpowered if there is no scum roleblocker which HE SAID. Not me.

@Lamont: Please quote anywhere in this thread where I have advocated lynching or vigging Amished. IF you can find it, then your vote is justified.

@Pablo: If you are town, you need to reread the thread (especially Amished's post where he says there is no scum RB and my post that you found so suspicious). If you're scum, carry on as usual.

@Pyro: Any reason for voting me, or just hoping for a quick mislynch?
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:55 am

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Here are your attacks on Amished. You start slow and ramp it up.
Amished, I have a question for you, too. When you first claimed, why didn't you mention that your role enables you to avoid being blocked by town power roles? the way you tacked it on after really made it sound like you made it up...

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Something is wrong with your claim. If the protection lasts until the start of the next night, how does it not apply to lynches, which happen BEFORE the next night starts.

Also, has anyone ever heard of a dr. that protects themself as well as a multitude of other people? Especially without a scum roleblocker? How is that balanced?

I'm not saying start a wagon on Amished. I'm just saying his claim is fishy and I'm not considering him confirmed town by any means.

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The claimed powerrole being spoken of there is Amished's. Does it really make sense that a protown multiprotect doc would not be roleblocked by scum if they had the ability? Either Amished successfully protected naomi (and therefore wasn't blocked) or he's not the reason Naomi was granted an extra day.

Either the scum have no roleblocker or Amished is not really a doc. It's as simple as that. My argument was/is that a doc this overpowered + no scum roleblocker = imbalanced game.
You ignored my pointed question about this which is why I decided to vig-vote you. Could you please address the question below?
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Also, has anyone ever heard of a dr. that protects themself as well as a multitude of other people? Especially without a scum roleblocker? How is that balanced?
@Setael:
Do you see here how you could be falling into a scum trap by thinking this way? On the other hand, if you are correct, how do we explain Ho living an extra day??

So what is the explanation here??
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:07 am

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Setael wrote: Either the scum have no roleblocker or Amished is not really a doc. It's as simple as that. My argument was/is that a doc this overpowered + no scum roleblocker = imbalanced game.
Are you forgetting we had 2 kills in one night meaning there might be 2 parties attacking us townies. Not too forget that scum would rather roleblock a cop then someone that can protect.

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I'm almost 100% sure he's town.

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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:12 am

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Vig Vote:Zwets


I don't like how you both want Sironi and Naomi dead for their claims only. Which both aren't scummy and haven't been counter claimed.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:26 am

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Vig Vote Tally


Pablo-3.5 (Amished, Setael, Xtoxm, Tajo)

Setael-3 (Pablo, Lamont, Pyro)
Sironi-2 (Zwet, Naomi)
Devastation-1 (Stepho)
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:41 am

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Sorry about the absence, gonna try to get caught up now.
I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.

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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:09 am

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@Setael (1336): I do believe that scum don't have a roleblocker. However my point against you is that you're taking the thought that they don't have a roleblocker and saying because of that I can't have the role I have. Why, to you, is there no other way that the game can be balanced if they didn't have a roleblocker? Couldn't they have something else that was powerful, maybe a multi-kill if it was one scumgroup, or something that balances it later when I'm less powerful?

@Pyro: I protected Naomi because I forgot that she claimed bulletproof. As the only Trilby claim (when it should be pretty obvious that there's a trilby in a Chzo game) made me want to keep her around.
I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.

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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:40 am

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Amished 1174:
I do want to point out that since hohum's life was extended for a day (and I lived), they don't have a roleblocker (either faction/player in the case of an SK).
And that kids, is that. I also reread your exchange starting off my suspicions with Amished and get what you're getting at now. You did say that Amished was blessed with such a 'shoddy' town because he has not been lynched yet, however, when dealing with such a potentially powerful role, don't you think the town as a whole would err on the side of caution?

My pressure on you has also yielded a few interesting things, including showing the minimalist/opportunistic/non-reading (*cough*...heh...*cough*) nature of some people. Pyro went ahead and voted Setael even after he realized that she was not SKnight's replacement. There's no questioning, reasoning, or probing there and a great deal of what he's done is fly around from person to person to person with his vote. Paired with the way I remember he followed Lamont to me early in Day 1 (along with Naomi), I'm comfortable with:

unvote, vote Pyro

unvote, vote Zwet
(well, come on, he's just useless and you know the scum ain't gonna NK him)
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:41 am

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Btw Amish, would you like to resolve your 50% vig vote status?
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:13 am

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Pablo Molinero wrote:Amished 1174:
I do want to point out that since hohum's life was extended for a day (and I lived), they don't have a roleblocker (either faction/player in the case of an SK).
And that kids, is that. I also reread your exchange starting off my suspicions with Amished and get what you're getting at now. You did say that Amished was blessed with such a 'shoddy' town because he has not been lynched yet, however, when dealing with such a potentially powerful role, don't you think the town as a whole would err on the side of caution?

My pressure on you has also yielded a few interesting things, including showing the minimalist/opportunistic/non-reading (*cough*...heh...*cough*) nature of some people. Pyro went ahead and voted Setael even after he realized that she was not SKnight's replacement. There's no questioning, reasoning, or probing there and a great deal of what he's done is fly around from person to person to person with his vote. Paired with the way I remember he followed Lamont to me early in Day 1 (along with Naomi), I'm comfortable with:

unvote, vote Pyro

unvote, vote Zwet
(well, come on, he's just useless and you know the scum ain't gonna NK him)
Yes Pablo, not only has he bounced from person to person... he's pretty much been a lurker... His few posts have been to say I am scum, and then disappear again. He then reappears, make a few posts on who he thinks might be scum, and then distract everyone by making posts with little to no content in them...
I've said this before...
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:10 am

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Nyx wrote:
Vig Vote:Zwets


I don't like how you both want Sironi and Naomi dead for their claims only. Which both aren't scummy and haven't been counter claimed.
I'm definitely not voting Siro for his claim.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:14 am

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I don't see anything wrong with voting someone who claimed Vanillager for no reason. Its an anti-town thing to do.
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