Sironi-3 (Pyro, Zwet, Naomi)
Setael-2 (Pablo, Lamont)
Devastation-1 (Stepho)
Stepho-1 (Sironi)
Lamont-.5 (Amished)
Not vig-voting scum:
You ignored my pointed question about this which is why I decided to vig-vote you. Could you please address the question below?Amished, I have a question for you, too. When you first claimed, why didn't you mention that your role enables you to avoid being blocked by town power roles? the way you tacked it on after really made it sound like you made it up...
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Something is wrong with your claim. If the protection lasts until the start of the next night, how does it not apply to lynches, which happen BEFORE the next night starts.
Also, has anyone ever heard of a dr. that protects themself as well as a multitude of other people? Especially without a scum roleblocker? How is that balanced?
I'm not saying start a wagon on Amished. I'm just saying his claim is fishy and I'm not considering him confirmed town by any means.
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The claimed powerrole being spoken of there is Amished's. Does it really make sense that a protown multiprotect doc would not be roleblocked by scum if they had the ability? Either Amished successfully protected naomi (and therefore wasn't blocked) or he's not the reason Naomi was granted an extra day.
Either the scum have no roleblocker or Amished is not really a doc. It's as simple as that. My argument was/is that a doc this overpowered + no scum roleblocker = imbalanced game.
Thank you.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Also, has anyone ever heard of a dr. that protects themself as well as a multitude of other people? Especially without a scum roleblocker? How is that balanced?@Setael:Do you see here how you could be falling into a scum trap by thinking this way? On the other hand, if you are correct, how do we explain Ho living an extra day??
So what is the explanation here??
Are you forgetting we had 2 kills in one night meaning there might be 2 parties attacking us townies. Not too forget that scum would rather roleblock a cop then someone that can protect.Setael wrote: Either the scum have no roleblocker or Amished is not really a doc. It's as simple as that. My argument was/is that a doc this overpowered + no scum roleblocker = imbalanced game.
And that kids, is that. I also reread your exchange starting off my suspicions with Amished and get what you're getting at now. You did say that Amished was blessed with such a 'shoddy' town because he has not been lynched yet, however, when dealing with such a potentially powerful role, don't you think the town as a whole would err on the side of caution?I do want to point out that since hohum's life was extended for a day (and I lived), they don't have a roleblocker (either faction/player in the case of an SK).
Yes Pablo, not only has he bounced from person to person... he's pretty much been a lurker... His few posts have been to say I am scum, and then disappear again. He then reappears, make a few posts on who he thinks might be scum, and then distract everyone by making posts with little to no content in them...Pablo Molinero wrote:Amished 1174:And that kids, is that. I also reread your exchange starting off my suspicions with Amished and get what you're getting at now. You did say that Amished was blessed with such a 'shoddy' town because he has not been lynched yet, however, when dealing with such a potentially powerful role, don't you think the town as a whole would err on the side of caution?I do want to point out that since hohum's life was extended for a day (and I lived), they don't have a roleblocker (either faction/player in the case of an SK).
My pressure on you has also yielded a few interesting things, including showing the minimalist/opportunistic/non-reading (*cough*...heh...*cough*) nature of some people. Pyro went ahead and voted Setael even after he realized that she was not SKnight's replacement. There's no questioning, reasoning, or probing there and a great deal of what he's done is fly around from person to person to person with his vote. Paired with the way I remember he followed Lamont to me early in Day 1 (along with Naomi), I'm comfortable with:
unvote, vote Pyro
(well, come on, he's just useless and you know the scum ain't gonna NK him)unvote, vote Zwet