Troll did go back and look at what people had said about populartajo and typed up the following post this morning. Troll decided not to post it at the time as after Troll read over it it no seemed to add that much to the game. The topic still be getting some play though so Troll will put it here now. Troll's basic conclusion be that trying to figure out who be responsible for the kill now be like trying to figure out most other night one kills on day two in games Troll has played in, an exercise in WIFOM for the most part. If Adel would like to pursue the meta on connections Troll no would mind seeing the result but this seems to be a topic that be unlikely to bear much of use to Troll at this time. Troll self-reported Troll's experience with populartajo in post 662 when it was brought up the first time but this passed without comment.
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So here be the last things that Troll can find that people said about populartajo during day one:
Adel wrote:lol, when did I say that tajo was scum? I simply wanted him to pay more attention to this game, and give opportunistic scum a chance to wagon with me.
Ectomancer wrote:Seriously though, if town, I would shoot either Elmo or Tajo, probably tajo for convenient lurking.
Elmo wrote:And similar to what I said about tajo, I don't see why it would be tunnelling.
For Korts, the one mention was in the responses to Adel's initial questions. Troll no can find any direct thoughts about populartajo from Korts on day one.
Porkens wrote:I'm not for the tajo wagon a.t.m.. Primarily because it's being driven by Adel who still hasn't posted her reasons/motivations for a couple of major points.
springlullaby wrote:Scummy (people I'm feeling wishy washy about and potential lynches, or not)
Zorblag - This one is more nebulous and I kinda fear I'm being OMGUSY so I'll make one reply/question post.
Porkens - Weak play and lazy votes, I'm not sure I buy the towntells consisting pretty much exclusively of bravado.
Adel - Scummy with promises of amend, I don't mind being patient a little longer for the delivery, but not too long.
Herodotus - Opaque play, nothing stray too much in scum territory, nothing stray in town. Been weaker lately.
populartajo - General sloppy impression and hard to judge.
For SpyreX it be the name dropping posts. Troll no sees any mention of how suspicious SpyreX finds populartajo on day one.
Vi wrote:Troll 455 needs more catching up. taco needs replacement and s-lully needs to exist.
Though the more interesting post by Vi prior to that was:
Vi wrote:As far as I can tell - not that I did much looking into it - tajo was (is?) indeed lurking. However, by the time I saw Adel calling him out for it tajo had already responded with his catch-up wall, with which I didn't have many immediate problems. Right now I'm not sure either way on him, though, as that bit where he essentially justified seeing you as the only scummy person in the game is made of hate. And this game is on his second page of most recent posts by him... That said, it's hard for me to hate the first point considering as of now I think YOU are scum.
Zorblag wrote:Troll has talked about Troll's thoughts on populartajo's reactions to Troll. Them boil down to it being worse in Troll's opinion to find Troll more likely to be scum than most in the game because Troll no be obv town to him but still more likely to be town than scum. Troll objected when Troll was accused of fence sitting earlier in the game but Troll will raise the same objection here about populartajo. Troll would actually have been much more comfortable if populartajo was simply able to decide that Troll was acting scummy.
Troll's quote from Elmo no be that infomative but Elmo's stance on populartajo be fairly clear (and consistent.) Elmo found populartajo to be playing his town game day one. Elmo was the only one to express this view day one so far as Troll can tell. Korts, Porkens and SpyreX largely no expressed any opinions at all. Adel's final expressed view be one that could be taken to mean Adel found him likely to be town or that him no had a strong opinion (among other things.) Ectomancer brought the lurking up late in the game and lack of content much earlier; Troll thinks that him was giving a mild negative read. Vi's view seems to be neutral but not thrilled with the focus on Herodotus or lack of content. springlullaby puts populartajo in the scummy category (though last on her list) and Troll thinks that Troll was the one who was most vocal about qualms with populartajo's play.
On the whole, populartajo no seems to have been considered strongly town by any other than Elmo and no seems to have been that suspect compared to others to any beyond Troll. If his kill was pushed through by someone who was familiar with the play it would surprise Troll if it was Elmo that was doing it; that makes Elmo's stance too blatant (Troll recognizes this be WIFOM but it just be unnecessary work on Elmo's part.) Adel's thought that the kill might have been made just to give him trouble seems unlikely as well. There be any number of reasons that the kill could have been chosen but it also looks to Troll like it would have been a safe one to make (populartajo seems unlikely to have been protected given what people were saying) that no would eliminate a strong suspect from many so that be Troll's best guess as to why populartajo was the one to go.
On another note, Troll thinks this was a quote Vi was looking for in post 593.
Korts wrote:Ecto wrote:Vi wrote:
Sooooo... is Artem scummy, or null, or what for doing basically that?
This was entirely referencing my own method of choosing targets and not letting up until we have material. As far as te 3 go, Spyrex is a null, Porkens is +1 scum and Tajo is +2 scum.
I realize you're on meds (hope you get better, by the way) but why no mention of Artem, even though it is him the original question was about?
-Zorblag R`Lyeh