Mini 754 - Frogs Mafia Game, Set and Match.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 11:01 am

dahill1 wrote:@CKD: lol "false"? i know you've heard of meta-ing before. i was looking for games you have been in as scum which would obviously help me to see your playstyle as scum and compare to this one. as for why i didn't look in your profile/whatnot, i'm lazy.

you asked for a game (not a scum game)...also you asked AFTER I POSTED a game where I stated I was scum..please explain.

dahill1 · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 11:20 am

[quote=dahill1"]@CK and ckd: I'd like to see some games of you, if any, as scum[/quote]

dahill1 · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 11:20 am

bah

dahill1 wrote:@CK and ckd: I'd like to see some games of you, if any, as scum

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 11:57 am

oh I read that wrong...but again, you posted that AFTER i posted a game where I stated I was scum...so if you are trying to get a read on my like you were saying...why not check out that game I posted?

dahill1 · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 12:09 pm

greater sample size

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 4:27 pm

did you read the game I provided?

are you saying you did see that link?

scotmany12 · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sat May 23, 2009 5:25 pm

I believe raging wishbone is a multiheaded account. CKD, this seems like a strange thing to get worked up about. Dahill wasn't accusing you of being scum; he simply wanted to meta you, and one game is really enough to establish a meta. Really, it seems like you are trying to hide something here. I think as town you would have simply provided the games for him.

Shanba · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 12:16 am

Vote Count:

2: Raging Rabbit

(dahill, izzy)
Not Voting:

scot, citizen karne, ckd, macavitylock

Raging Rabbit now in line for a prod. As are macavitylock and citizen karne.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 3:51 am

scotmany12 wrote:I believe raging wishbone is a multiheaded account. CKD, this seems like a strange thing to get worked up about. Dahill wasn't accusing you of being scum; he simply wanted to meta you, and one game is really enough to establish a meta. Really, it seems like you are trying to hide something here. I think as town you would have simply provided the games for him.

ugh, that is why I hate multi ran accounts...but good note.

however,

you seem to be missing my point scot. He asked for a scum AFTER I had provided one (ironically to defend a point of his). I am trying to figure out if he is asking for a scum game to scum hunt or if he is trying to look like he is scum hunting. I dont have a problem providing ANOTHER game, I have pointed him to my profile that lists DOZENS of scum games. But is admittedly says he is too lazy. Seems to me if he really wanted to meta me, he would have checked out the link I posted in thread already.

this seems like an attempt to look like he is scum hunting..when in fact he isnt. Scot, did you read the timing of the posts (ie when I posted the link versus when he asked for one) before making this post?

dahill, again, did you read the game I linked? What did you learn from it..seems like it would be a good game to read since I was a scum AND there was a traitor in the game? Do you still want another one? IF so, did you check out my profile or do you want me to post a link?

still wanting to hear from RR, before my vote.

MacavityLock · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 4:07 am

Prodded, bleh. Neither of my two suspects have posted since I last did. This is getting frustrating.

dahill1 · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 5:57 am

ckd, i'm currently skimming through some of your games as scum (peril in panama, nice shot, thespival, 12 angry men, etc.)
i really don't see what the big deal about this. of course i would want more games than just one, even if it was an extremely relevant one, to compare playstyles.

scotmany12 · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 11:45 am

He asked you to post games ckd. He didn't know you had all of your games in your wiki. One game as scum is not enough for a meta. As he says, he is going to want more than one game. Your reaction to this is pretty scummy. I don't see why you would do what you are doing as town. Right now you are looking scummiest to me right now due to your reaction.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 2:54 pm

Interesting.

scotmany12 wrote:He asked you to post games ckd. He didn't know you had all of your games in your wiki. One game as scum is not enough for a meta.
As he says, he is going to want more than one game
. Your reaction to this is pretty scummy. I don't see why you would do what you are doing as town. Right now you are looking scummiest to me right now due to your reaction.

dahill1 wrote:bah

dahill1 wrote:@CK and ckd: I'd like to see some games of you, if any, as scum

does this sound like he acknowledged that I posted a scum game?

interesting how you say that my scum hunting is really a "reaction". I am trying to find out somethings. If I didnt think you were town, I truly would be all over

your

reaction.

Scot, since you think my reaction is so scummy..

the bolded part of your quote is EXACTLY MY POINT. please explain to me why dahill was asking for "some" games after I posted a game. If he saw my game like he is indicating, why isnt he asking to see "more" scum games. He was not asking for MORE games...he was asking for SOME games...he only asked for MORE games after I started making a big deal out of the post.

I find him asking for games suspicious. I think he is trying to look like he is scum hunting....I know he saw that post (with the link) because it directly had something to do with what he was talking about.

The fact that he asked for "some" games, means he didnt read the one I had posted...if he truly wanted to get a read on me, why not read that game.....the fact that he said "if any, as scum" means he had no clue I was scum in that game....

I am calling bullshit...scot please explain how this is not suspicous.

the more I talk about it..the more I think dahill is scum...

vote dahill

dahill1 · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Sun May 24, 2009 4:41 pm

CKD wrote:the bolded part of your quote is EXACTLY MY POINT.
1)
please explain to me why dahill was asking for "some" games after I posted a game.
2)
If he saw my game like he is indicating, why isnt he asking to see "more" scum games.
3)
He was not asking for MORE games...he was asking for SOME games...he only asked for MORE games after I started making a big deal out of the post.

1) Would you honestly meta someone with only 1 other game to on by?

2) I'm not asking for other games...really?? this is turning into a fucking semantics debate

3) see above statement regarding semantics. this is completely blown out of proportion

sorry if this post came out jumbled i'll explain it if it doesnt make sense tomorrow when i'm in the right state of mind

DizzyIzzyB13 · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 3:52 am

CKD might just have made the worst case against someone I've ever seen in Mafia.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:04 am

I am really at a loss here....

I dont see how no one sees what I am saying.

He wants people to think he is scum hunting by reviewing scum games, but totally doesnt read the scum game I post....HOW IS THAT NOT SCUMMY?

the fact he says "some" versus "more" IS a catch I think. It proves my point that he didnt read the game. The fact that he didnt read the game proves that he is just blowing smoke by asking for games.

Dizzy, if you think it is such a bad case, do you think it was a scummy one?...if so, why not vote me?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:28 am

ok..got to be gone until friday..

interested in seeing what develops in that time..

also interested in hearing what RR and CK have to say (though if I was a betting man, I know what RR will open with).

scotmany12 · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 7:41 am

Wow, CKD, you have absolutely no proof that he didn't read the game. Also, he was also asking citizen karne, to ask more would have been incorrect. So dahill was actually right in saying some instead of more. You are supposed to help the town as town. As town, you would have given dahill games as scum. Instead, you went right out of you way, starting spouted bullshit, and are deliberately hurting the town. You are not scumhunting, at all. Playing the semantics game does not prove anything. Looks like you are trying to cover your ass right now. This whole situation has made me confident that you are scum CKD.

Vote: CKD

DizzyIzzyB13 · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 8:08 am

CKD: It was an absolutely awful case, but I've seen you make similarly awful cases against people when you've been town before, and we're possibly in LYLO, so I don't think there's enough to vote for you with that many people on your wagon.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:25 am

dahill1 wrote:@CKD: lol "false"? i know you've heard of meta-ing before. i was looking for games you have been in as scum which would obviously help me to see your playstyle as scum and compare to this one. as for why i didn't look in your profile/whatnot, i'm lazy.

does this sound like he read the link I provided him scot? Does this sound like he checked out my profile for ANY OF MY SCUM GAMES scot? If this isnt proof..I dont know what is.

scot are you fucking insane??...I told him where he could find EVERY SCUM GAME I HAVE EVER BEEN IN (but you seem to be ignoring that, why?)....HE SAID HE WAS TOO LAZY TO LOOK THEM UP?! (you are now lying saying I refused to provide him games, why? why are you also ignoring his lazy comment?)....again, if he was really trying to scum hunt like he says...why on earth would he ask for games...then say he was too lazy to read them?

what I dont understand is why scot is going so far out of his way to defend dahill. so lets say for the sake of scot's defense of dahill that the "some" was a term used mainly for CK, to include me...please explain scot why if he was really wanted to scum hunt...why he was so lazy to read my games....he only started reading my games AFTER I called him out on being lazy..

jesus, I dont want to go away right now....shit like this drives me up the fucking wall.

scotmany12 · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:42 am

You are making assumptions that have absolutely not basis CKD. Plus, you are totally not reading correctly. Dahill never said he was too lazy to read your games. Quote, "as for why i didn't look in your profile/whatnot, i'm lazy." HE NEVER SAID HE WAS TOO LAZY TO LOOK AT THE GAMES IN YOUR PROFILE. He said he was too lazy to look at your profile in the first place. Jesus Christ. So he decided to ask you for games where you are scum. Right now, you are stretching this so far. So either you are fucking insane and actually believe what you are saying (unlikely, I don't think you are an idiot) or you are scum who is trying to cover your ass. You are making baseless assumptions. You have absolutely no proof that he didn't look at the original game, and you have absolutely no proof that he started reading your games after you called him out.

scotmany12 · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:43 am

Also, I am simply attacking the validity of your argument. I am in no way defending dahill. I am attacking you.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:55 am

lets just solve this little issue right now then..

dahill did you read the scum game a posted a link for...if so when?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 10:05 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:lets just solve this little issue right now then..

dahill did you read the scum game
I
posted a link for...if so when?

edited..

also, if you read this today dahill, please post today...I am heading out tonight...and I really want to comment before I leave.

Scot if you think that I am withholding information (like my previous scum games)...why would I provide a link to a scum game (before asked) AND provide the names of EVERY game I have ever been in? You are right, i am not an idiot, in a game that has stalled and is full of lurkers, I am trying to scum hunt (which is more than what ANYONE else is doing)...the smallest slip (even if it is a semantices issue) can expose scum.....are you really not seeing where I am coming from at all? I dont think he read my posted game before his request, which makes his request for games a weak attempt to appear to be scum hunting....

scotmany12 · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2009 10:14 am

I never said you were withholding information. I said you were being difficult for no reason. You are making accusations that have zero threads of proof behind them. You have no basis to accuse dahill of not reading your game, and you have blown this whole thing out of proportion. Instead telling dahill your games are on your wiki, and leaving it at that, you decided to attack him over nothing. I do not believe you had the town's best interest at mind when you first questioned dahill.