Mini 790- Skywalker Mafia: Game Over

[ZazieR]

@Zaz: Informational purposes for the moment. I understand you cannot vote, but where would you be voting if you could? Could you FoS or something please so we know where you stand on certain issues?

At this mo, I think a mil lynch is the way to go. I think one of them is in a mil, while the o is not. So if I could vote, I would have vo one of the two, most like Ad.
O of whom I am sus are Sir, San and Azh.

[ZazieR]

Last time I looked this game was not bastardized, but I suppose it is. Leave it up to a bastard mod to do that.

@Zaz: Informational purposes for the moment. I understand you cannot vote, but where would you be voting if you could? Could you FoS or something please so we know where you stand on certain issues?

@Mafia- Is there anything that could confirm your alignment or Thead's allignment that we could know? I mean could goon's be chocolate too?

Thead's alignment should be town.

A 'should'. Last time I ask, it was 'yes'.
So, ex.

[ZazieR]

@Ad (post two nine six)

A mafia godfather? A miller mafia godfather? I still don't think that makes sense, although it would be a funny role.
I don't think he is a death miller. I don't know what you mean with "you al have an in con"
As I said I can't confirm him 100%. I say this in the same sense that a cop can't 100% confirm a person who came up townie.
They can be pretty damn sure though (as I am).

A ma god is the op of a mil, as a ma god turns up in in a cop in, while be scum.
As for the death mil com, an in con is a re death mil. At least, this was the name of it in Mi six nine nine
Al, I found this lit gem in one of your posts:

in any case, having read my role pm again, it does state that the other chocolate person will be town aligned.

So is it or is it not men in your role that the o is town al?

This is a good point and it doesn't make much sense, however the other information he has revealed about his role correlates to my own role.

interesting, another discrepancy.
Mine clearly states that i am a miller.

Ap, not e Rox has re cor with your role.

btw what did zwet do re: thread title?

GA O

[ZazieR]

E By Way Of Post

btw what did zwet do re: thread title?

GAME O
(For 'Game' is one syl...)

[ZazieR]

in regards to the cross-confirms, I'm inclined to believe at least some of them are false because otherwise we'd find ourselves in a broken setup.

I'm only lynching for scummy behaviour. I do need to re-read though then I'll come up with a vote, or I may be voting already (whoever that scumbag was who wanted to lynch the two millers).

^^Seems a chain de.
Scum post.

[Azhrei]

@Everyone else, what do you know, think and feel?

First to respond correctly wins a cookie!

Nothing!

Damnit, my post died due to a logout. Take 2:

I think that we're in crazy setup, and that we're in for a very interesting game, however, I think we need to get back to some genuine scumhunting. Problem being, I have no leads...

Perhaps time for a reread...

Mil

lers

are still a good lead.
Sir as well.

Al

so

, ex

plain

why in your o

pinion

you are not ac

tive

lur

king

, as I get the im

age

you are.

(Tell me if I've interpreted wrong, please)

I don't believe the millers are a good lead, we wither believe them and leave them be, continue as per usual, or we disbelieve them and lynch one, then base our action on the other from the first's flip. I don't see how we can really glean any more information other than that?

Sir? Hm, I haven't noticed him... Definitely time for a reread.

And you think I'm active lurking? Bugger. I didn't mean to. I am trying to just post my thoughts on the game, in the small amount of time I get to do so. (Which, for the next day or two, will reduce to none, due to starting my first job and schoolwork)

Most are cor

rrect

, ex

cept

for im

age

, though I think your in

terpretation

works fine.

(yay for similar words )

As for the mil

lers

, I as

sume

that you think both are town. Why do you think that? Be

cause

I do not. That is why I see them as a good lead.
And yeah, I think you are ac

tive

lur

king

. If you dis

agree

, why did you not give rea

son

why?

I was initially sceptical of the millers, however the line about feeling, know, thinking, that SSK posted is identical to one in my pm (I think that maybe be what almost got him modkilled, due to the quotage). Due to me knowing my role, my assumption is that player of a non-town alignment would not have a identical line in their pm. That is why I believe they are town.

And as to the active lurking part, I didn't realise I was, and I'm trying my best not to. I believe this post (which contains content, no?) would be a reason why I'm not.

I will probably reread tomorrow, and post some thoughts on everyone else.

[Kreriov]

@ZazieR - Why would you pick ThAdmiral over MafiaSSK? If anything, I find it more likely that after ThAdmirals initial claim and then revelation of another miller that a mafia would take advantage of it by saying he is the other miller. Do you truly disbelieve them or do you want to lynch one to try and confirm the other?

@Sajin - Your point would be more accurate were this not a theme game. There are some really weird interactions and non-standard abilities going on and having two millers and partial confirmations does not a broken game make.

[Kreriov]

@Santos - Yes, you ask questions of others about their replacements are scum conclusions, but it seems clear you think you know what their answer will be. Specifically that they, too, find replacements to often be scum.

Out of all the games I've replaced in here, the majority points to scum. What about you? Have you replaced many games? Have you replaced more often as scum or as town?

We might as well bank on these odds, you know? And possibly his a scum.

(Bold added for emphasis)

Doesn't your last sentence indicate you would be willing to vote for a replacement based on the odds you just set up?

Of course, then you backtrack later on.

If I intended to vote replacements then I would agree that I should be canned immediately for such a ludicrous provocation

Based on these two statements, well, I should be voting for you.

[ZazieR]

@ZazieR - Why would you pick ThAdmiral over MafiaSSK? If anything, I find it more likely that after ThAdmirals initial claim and then revelation of another miller that a mafia would take advantage of it by saying he is the other miller. Do you truly disbelieve them or do you want to lynch one to try and confirm the other?

This an your se ques.
I will get back la, why I ra lynch Ad than Rox af some has re.

[ZazieR]

@Zaz: Informational purposes for the moment. I understand you cannot vote, but where would you be voting if you could? Could you FoS or something please so we know where you stand on certain issues?

At this mo, I think a mil lynch is the way to go. I think one of them is in a mil, while the o is not. So if I could vote, I would have vo one of the two, most like Ad.
O of whom I am sus are Sir, San and Azh.

In Threep as well. I for a him.

[Kreriov]

Ok, so let me get this straight. You think one is a miller and the other is not. So you want to lynch one and that leaves the other where, exactly? If we lynch ThAdmiral and he flips scum, that confirms MafiaSSK as town in your eyes? And if he flips town, MafiaSSK must be scum?

[ZazieR]

Ok, so let me get this straight. You think one is a miller and the other is not. So you want to lynch one and that leaves the other where, exactly? If we lynch ThAdmiral and he flips scum, that confirms MafiaSSK as town in your eyes? And if he flips town, MafiaSSK must be scum?

I will look at that the next day if a mil gets lynched.

[Kreriov]

That didn't exactly answer the questions, ZazieR.

I guess since I find MafiaSSK more suspect, I find you wanting to lynch ThAdmiral first a bit suspicious. Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

[ZazieR]

That didn't exactly answer the questions, ZazieR.

I guess since I find MafiaSSK more suspect, I find you wanting to lynch ThAdmiral first a bit suspicious. Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

How can I an those ques, when I can on know what an I would give if it hap in con? There are many fac in. So I can not ans these ques.

I have gi rea why I think on one is scum. And I will ex why I think it is more like to be Ad than Rox af a re from a spe play.
How, what is your o of the mil? And do you think both are town, both are scum or one of them is scum, while the o is town?

[Kreriov]

@ZazieR - Ok.

Mod: I will probably be V/LA for the weekend. Back on Tues morning for sure

[Santos]

I'm not really seeing anything wrong with my questions. You're insinuating that I expect to hear them say 'I replace as scum' but I am not asking for that answer. I asked if they replace more often as scum or as town. I just offered what I replace as most of the time.

[zwetschenwasser]

I am considering modkilling MafiaSSK. I will make my final decision soon

But mod ruin the game...
Al, why and what are the rules re mod?

Post Violation 3

[ThAdmiral]

Al, I found this lit gem in one of your posts:

in any case, having read my role pm again, it does state that the other chocolate person will be town aligned.

So is it or is it not men in your role that the o is town al?

My role pm claims that there is, to paraphrase, another chocolate townsperson. It could just be the role name though so I may have gone a bit to far with saying that it stated that the other person was definitely town aligned.

interesting, another discrepancy.
Mine clearly states that i am a miller.

Ap, not e Rox has re cor with your role.

The bit that states I am a miller is the same bit that has my win condition so I imagine he doesn't have that line in his pm for whatever reason.

Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

This is a good point. I would like you, zaz, to clearly state your position on the miller situation and the outcomes of what would happen if one of us was lynched.

[Sajin]

Clearly stated is asking for a bunch of violations. I am cool with unclear as I am curious as well.


@Mod, plz note sig, if this is a problem PM me.

[zwetschenwasser]

That didn't exactly answer the questions, ZazieR.

I guess since I find MafiaSSK more suspect, I find you wanting to lynch ThAdmiral first a bit suspicious. Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

How can I an those ques, when I can on know what an I would give if it hap in con? There are many fac in. So I can not ans these ques.

I have gi rea why I think on one is scum. And I will ex why I think it is more like to be Ad than Rox af a re from a spe play.
How, what is your o of the mil? And do you think both are town, both are scum or one of them is scum, while the o is town?

Sigh... Post Violation 4

Hey, I used to be in Odyssey of the Mind in elementary school... my team got disqualified because my coach misinterpreted the rules... It's fine, btw.

[Sironigous]

My role pm claims that there is, to paraphrase, another chocolate townsperson. It could just be the role name though so I may have gone a bit to far with saying that it stated that the other person was definitely town aligned.

To be honest I think chocolate townsperson is the same as town aligned...
Meh.

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Other than that, if one of these claimed millers

is definitely

going to be lynched, I'm going to say it should be ThAd - he actually has notification of another miller. If he's town, it confirms he's telling the truth - if anyone else counterclaims the other miller, I'd say lynch that person because..

a) he/she didn't come earlier when he/she had the chance like MafiaSSK did
b) he/she made us go through a whole D 1 of miller talk.

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Yeah seriously, our most active player is stuck with that nasty post restriction. Bahhhhh.


To be continued...

[ThAdmiral]

That didn't exactly answer the questions, ZazieR.

I guess since I find MafiaSSK more suspect, I find you wanting to lynch ThAdmiral first a bit suspicious. Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

How can I an those ques, when I can on know what an I would give if it hap in con? There are many fac in. So I can not ans these ques.

I have gi rea why I think on one is scum. And I will ex why I think it is more like to be Ad than Rox af a re from a spe play.
How, what is your o of the mil? And do you think both are town, both are scum or one of them is scum, while the o is town?

Sigh... Post Violation 4

Where?
Can you bold in future regardless.

[ortolan]

That didn't exactly answer the questions, ZazieR.

I guess since I find MafiaSSK more suspect, I find you wanting to lynch ThAdmiral first a bit suspicious. Its almost like you are trying to set up a scenario in which you establish that one must be lying so if we lynch one and he flips towns, we then should lynch the other.

How can I an those ques, when I can on know what an I would give if it hap in con? There are

many

fac in. So I can not ans these ques.

I have gi rea why I think on one is scum. And I will ex why I think it is more like to be Ad than Rox af a re from a spe play.
How, what is your o of the mil? And do you think both are town, both are scum or one of them is scum, while the o is town?

Sigh... Post Violation 4

Where?
Can you bold in future regardless.

[zwetschenwasser]

Thanks, ort. I'm now also replacing Sting...

[ZazieR]

My role pm claims that there is, to paraphrase, another chocolate townsperson. It could just be the role name though so I may have gone a bit to far with saying that it stated that the other person was definitely town aligned.

Ad's past posts:

anyway if one of us dies now the other will most likely be confirmed as town, so that is not too bad.

in any case, having read my role pm again, it does state that the other chocolate person will be town aligned.

Firstly I can't 100% confirm ssk, but I don't see why there would be a miller scum; that just doesn't make sense.
So in a sense, yes I do confirm him.

So from not be to sure on Rox al, to be to sure on Rox al, to not be to sure on Rox.
Ex what change your o with each new stance.

The bit that states I am a miller is the same bit that has my win condition so I imagine he doesn't have that line in his pm for whatever reason.

Can we lynch one of the mil now? Rox has claimed af he has re his win con, that he had no in of a mil in his role Pri Mes (see this). Ac to Ad, the mil part was sta with his win con. Which to me means that he does not have the same win con as Rox.

This is a good point. I would like you, zaz, to clearly state your position on the miller situation and the outcomes of what would happen if one of us was lynched.

See this
But at this mo, I think one of you is scum, while the o is not. I say it is you. So if Rox gets lynched to and flip town, I will most like look at you the next day if you are a.
If you are lynched and flip town, I might look at Rox if he is a, but not as hard as I would have done to you.
But both al de on the con.