Conspicuous_other (2): Kmd4390, Raivann
Kmd4390 (2): charter, alexhans
knox (1): ZazieR
Raivann (1): knox
Not Voting: Conspicuous_other
4 to lynch, even at deadline.
yeah right! bussing each other to L-1.... Pretty good...ZazieR wrote: Yes, it would make sense for two scumpartners to do so. It's called bussing.
331 is my case on CnrT. Zaz has asked for it many times, even after it. There it is. Haven't you seen it?ZazieR wrote: I'd also like to hear what happened to this:Alex wrote:I'm leaning to a CntR lynch right now. Pending reasons in an organized post. I want him to be able to answer all questions(including mine) before I really decide on his lynch. (assuming nobody unvotes, then I would only vote him and not hammer him)
I think her reaction- quitting - is scummy. So yeah i'm still happy with my
vote.
This is the kind of anti-town statements I dislike.CntR are you scumbuddies with Ash?
Why Zaz and not both IC's?
@ Zazie- Can you tell me how to look at just one player's posts in isolation?
Finally, he did ask both. Zaz hadn't answered him...@ the IC's - How do I look at 1 player's posts in isolation?
After Zaz suspects Soad Raiv says he is fishy. THIS IS SCUMMY. throwing somethingSyndrome's last post does look fishy to me though. Looks like he's
bussing/distancing himself from CntR and it reads like it was planned.
He puts CnrT at L-1 with little reasoning without making a case for himself. Scummy.Raivann wrote:Ok, thanks. I got my re-read done and I feel confident in a...
Vote:CntR
For all the reasons that have been previously stated by everyone
and I'm not believing his answers today
So he is not more suspicious of Ash because of that? He already suspected him...I think Ash case is not as strong, because I think he just dropped the hammer
too quick.
what do you think of yellow's death. Why do you think mafia decided to kill
him/her?
Also, what do you think about me ignoring yellow's questions until after he/she was
dead? Coincidence?
This seems to be a trend with Raiv.It seems ‘convenient’ that you decide to post you opinion on Zazie’s post now that I have voiced my suspicions, even though it had been days since the post and you posted in between without a comment to it.
This is were Ash starts going on for Raivann.Raivann, seems like you were pushing pretty hard for her in the beginning and
are still going for it strong through me
Trying to get an innocent out quick in the beginning?
Not liking this.AshKetchummm wrote:Well even though it wasn't the hammer, I feel my vote is still
in the right spot, and Cnt hasn't given a valid reason as to why I shouldn't vote for
him.
This is a good point by Ash.Ash wrote:Well I gave valid reasons to support my vote, and I really think that he
is scum, and also he has made no attempt to prove that he is innocent, all he did was
say that he an erratic player, and then went on to point the direction at someone
else, simply because they answered a question with a question.
Then why he hammered Blue?Ash wrote:I'm much more confident in a Cnt lynch then a blue lynch right now. So
I'm keeping my vote on Cnt.
Ok... he foses but doesn't say why. 87. Why do you FOS this? What's scumym about it?FOS syndromeofadown for 87.
What's this... State your f%&/%$& reasons when you say something.You guys lynched syndromeofadown for 95, right?
Seeing blue is dead... Raivann is scum to you? eh?Ok, one of blueshadow and Raivann is scum. Figuring out which one will be the tough part.
What? WHAT?!181- kmd, what? I've never seen you pull something like that as town before.
Really helpful254- This looks important, but it's late and I didn't read it. Will come back to it later and see what I think.
264- Same deal.
I really skimmed the last two or so pages.
Yes, but CntRational had posted early in the game, it gave me town vibes.
post 60, a lurker lynch is a great scum tool if people in the town accept it
Actually, now that I look back over his posts, I'm unsure why I thought his early posting gave me town vibes. That was really the only one in the first several pages.
He has a point against KMD here. KMD should've been more cautious. His vote seemed opportunistic all right.You left CntRational when he was at L-1 because "discussion is good"
first blue or shadow. Now dennis and Soad.... How do you throw those unsupported accusations like that?54- If Dennis1993 is ever revealed scum, syndromeofadown is his partner.
I dont get it. Look at the said post:141- Holy crap. Raivann just sweeps his loaded question under the rug. Very scummy.
This charter post is so tiring. having to go to the source each time to try to understand what he is talking about!! It's misleading. I don't know who else followed every post. I did know and find so many inconsistencies that it sucks. It looks scummy.Raivann wrote:lazy scumhunting.
This is totally inconsisten with his not voting for fear of putting someone2. I find Day 1 very boring when it lasts long, so I wanted to end it as soon
as possible, so we can get on to more interesting discussions based on more solid
evidence, rather than the straw catching of Day 1.
Makes sense. A lot of sense.I thought this might come up. If I'm scumbuddies with charter, that means I was scumbuddies with ash, and if I was scumbuddies with ash, post 319 doesn't make much sense, now does it?
If they were scummier than Blue why you were voting blue?You're wrong Yellowbunny. They are definitly scummy. In my opinion even
scummier than blue
I don't think speculating night choices is that bad. But seeing yellow was new weAlso, I'm not gonna state my opinion why I think that Yellowbunny was the NK.
In my opinion, it will only lead to WIFOM.
KMD wrote:I thought it was weird that I hadn't jokevoted you before, so I looked
at our past games.
Didn't you later used this to make a case against CnrT?KMD wrote:Cnt was the one I had a problem with. At least until I looked up his
meta. The FoS without voting always looks suspicious to me. In the RVS, it's even
worse. But seeing that he played a cautious game as town in his other game, I think
that's a null tell as well. Maybe even a slight town tell.
This may not be important but notice how KMD always seems to be justifying Zaz'sZazie: Answered a question Mizz asked pre-game. Normal IC procedure there.
Asked Mizz a question to help get things started. Said more about Mizz AFTER she was
replaced than while she was actually playing.
This is excessive. It looks like being sure you're always asking questions. BeingKmd4390 wrote:Why not?CntRational wrote:Hum...Well, since we cannot continue ahead
without blue, we can discuss a few things while he's gone...
1) you cleared him before but condemn him now? Convenient change of mind.1) The FoS in the RVS when you weren't voting anyone. I saw this as cautious
play matching your meta, but that's wrong as you have been more aggressive lately.
2) The fear of putting SoaD at L-2 which is notable because of your L-1 vote on Ash
later.
3) Calling out Dennis for lurking when a few others were worse offenders,
specifically Mizz.
4) Also quick to jump on the "lurker" who had posted 30 hours before you called him
out.
5) Called Mizz a confused townie and then voted Ash 3 posts later with little
reasoning.
6) Placed Ash at L-1 with little reasoning. Looks like you want to lynch pretty
quickly there.
But doesn't say why...Kmd4390 237 wrote:Hmm. I actually don't see the case on SoaD.
Raiv, can you give some reasons of your own why CnT is scummy? Or even just
tell us what specific points against him you agree with and what answers you don't
believe?
I agree with the later. I don't know why the former should be likeSo CnTscum=SoaD +scum points, Ash +town points. Remember this if CnT flips
scum.
I have missed this previously. It is suspicious.Also, I hope you realize if CnT flips scum, you get scum points for defending him like this.
Unless, as you said, it touches rolefishing...3. Yes, witholding info is scummy.
Here is 87.alexhans wrote:Ok... he foses but doesn't say why. 87. Why do you FOS this? What's scumym about it?
Normally when someone says "I did XXXX to get reactions" that comes after they get called out for something, and they are scum, and they are trying to put some legit reasoning behind their action. It doesn't really matter the reason for their original action, it happens because the scum perceives what someone else says as an attack and try and quickly defend against it.syndromeofadown wrote:It's not really the fact that it's dangerous, it's just my vote for her wasn't because I thought she was mafia. It was because I wanted to get the game going with a vote to get a read on how people react.
..that's how I make posts whenever I replace into a game. Short and sweet. I am not a fan of long posts, so I try and avoid making them. I know I don't explain my thoughts very well, but I do the same thing whenever I replace in to a game (which is often, so I don't have time to make gigantic posts).alexhans wrote:What's this... State your f%&/%$& reasons when you say something.
I don't like charter's posts where he doesn't explain anything but appear to be helping.
This is just a really scummy statement. Scum try and 'win', town lynches scum.syndromeofadown 95 wrote:I hope it wasn't me, I'm not trying to be mean! I'm just trying to win!
He's one of my top two suspects. I could gladly vote him and lynch him if there is more support than Kmd4390.alexhans wrote:Seeing blue is dead... Raivann is scum to you? eh?
This was syndromeofadown's post.alexhans wrote:first blue or shadow. Now dennis and Soad.... How do you throw those unsupported accusations like that?
LOOK AT THE FUCKING POST 52 for god's sake.
He's defending Dennis, why on earth would he do that if he isn't scum?syndromeofadown wrote:Lot's of people haven't posted since voting, why single out Dennis specifically?
And Raivann simply dismisses it.AshKetchummm wrote:Than what does this quote entitle?Raivann wrote:CntR are you scumbuddies with Ash?
That was SoaD's RVS vote.Normally when someone says "I did XXXX to get reactions" that comes after they get called out for something, and they are scum, and they are trying to put some legit reasoning behind their action. It doesn't really matter the reason for their original action, it happens because the scum perceives what someone else says as an attack and try and quickly defend against it.
yes, But as I've said in post 345 you don't explain your comments nor link the numbers so It's awfully hard to follow you. It could be seen as trying to make it harder so we just take your word for it...that's how I make posts whenever I replace into a game. Short and sweet. I am not a fan of long posts, so I try and avoid making them. I know I don't explain my thoughts very well, but I do the same thing whenever I replace in to a game (which is often, so I don't have time to make gigantic posts).
I disagree... I want to win. I want to find scum to win. Finding scum is not my ultimate goal. My goal is finding scum and saying: IN YOUR FACE! I feel you're stretching too hard here.This is just a really scummy statement. Scum try and 'win', town lynches scum.
Why wouldn't he. He didn't necesarilly defend Dennis. He just noted that he wasn't the only one. I call that investigating.He's defending Dennis, why on earth would he do that if he isn't scum?
Why does everyone keep bringing up this. Kmd was V/LA when I first asked.alexhans wrote: Quote:
@ Zazie- Can you tell me how to look at just one player's posts in isolation?
Why Zaz and not both IC's?
Quote:
@ the IC's - How do I look at 1 player's posts in isolation?
Finally, he did ask both. Zaz hadn't answered him...
It happens. Even in newbie games.yeah right! bussing each other to L-1.... Pretty good...
What I actually meant was to ask why you voted Kevin with as reason gut, instead of CntR against whom you've made a case. So please answer.331 is my case on CnrT. Zaz has asked for it many times, even after it. There it is. Haven't you seen it?
Is this a point against me, or did you post this due to Raivann's response of it?302 Zaz dismisses ALL of KMD's points against CnrT
Responded to this after Charter mentioned it. See this postShe kept pushing on an on with my not voting in my first post.
Not true.Zaz didn't like Mizz quiting post
It was the post before the one where she told us she would leave that I didn't like. The reasons are stated above.Zaz wrote:But anyway, am I the only one who doesn't like Mizz's last postbeforeshe announced that she'd like to be replaced? There were a few players with questions aimed at her, two players voted her for the posts before this one and someone unvoted her, because this vote was from the RVS. And the only thing she discussed was the unvote.
You sure you have read this game in context?If they were scummier than Blue why you were voting blue?
I asked him why he didn't mention Blue day 1 at all. He told us that his mother was in the hospital. However, he had time to post his 'crazy theory'. So why did he have time to post a 'crazy theory' with his mother in the hospital, but not to post his opinion of Blue (Blue's most notable post was made before SoaD posted his 'crazy theory').I've read it. But I don't really see your point about SoaD's mother.
This is what we always do.Too much back and forth joking commenting between Zaz and KMD.
The great discoveryI've been doing some research and Mizz actually quit Antarctic Mafia, and Idyllic mafia for the same reasons as this game.
I just feel that it's more probable that his lynch was scum driven and I liked Conspic responses. Charter/Raiv/KMD lynch can provide us with more info.You have better points against CntR and Ash than anyone else. But for some reason CntR gets a free pass after you acknowledge his scummy posts, I don't understand that one.
Ash put cntr at L-1, apparently thinking he was hammering? And the post had no real reasoning to lead to a lynch? I don't think a scum partner would take it quite that far that fast...alex wrote:Not really. You could still do that as scum. To distance yourself from him.
Looks like yet another game has given me this nickname. I'm cool with it, but I've become rather used to being called C_O, so I can't promise I'll catch everything addressed to me this way.zazie wrote:Clown
When did I say that?zazie wrote:You've only mentioned one point why Charter is probably town, while saying that there are more reasons.
I'll have to do this later, sorry.And I don't understand the bolded. Can you please rephrase it?
Just making sure I wasn't missing anything huge. However, since it's deadline time,Why the fos?
Wow, I was totally right. Guys, look at Kmd4390's posts today, and tell me if he made those knowing ZazieR is scum. The answer is, no he did not. Look at 313 for a huge one, he's agreeing with ZazieR. I would never conceed arguments against someone I knew was scum. Aaaand, this finaleKmd4390 wrote:Ok, I need to catch up.
I'll do that after class, but I see I'm at L-1, so claim time.
I'm a cop. I have a guilty on Zaz, but wanted to find her partner before lynching her. The way she defended CO makes me think it's him.
But since I have claimed that now and am dead tonight for sure, I guess it's on the rest of the town to find the other scum now.
Unvote, Vote ZazieR
There's two ways to do this. Lynch Zaz now and see that she is scum, confirming me OR lynch me now (as I'm dead tonight anyway) and her tomorrow when I flip cop.
Either way, we should win this game.
Yeah...Kmd4390 341 wrote:I only see Zazie as scum if CnT is scum.