59 hours down, 13 hours left?BrianMcQueso wrote:I think it falls under the category of "simplistic trap".DrippingGoofball wrote:This falls under the category of "no test required."zwetschenwasser wrote:I'm going to lurk for 72 hours and see what happens... Consider it a "test", so to speak.
Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER
-
-
Stephoscope Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1768
- Joined: December 9, 2008
- Location: Maryland
-
-
Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
- Empking's Alt's Alt
- Empking's Alt's Alt
- Posts: 16758
- Joined: May 4, 2008
-
-
Ether ♀Lyrical Rampage♀
- Lyrical Rampage
- Lyrical Rampage
- Posts: 4790
- Joined: July 24, 2006
- Pronoun: ♀
- Location: New Jersey
Day 1, Block 2, Votecount...2 wrote:5 populartajo (roflcopter, image, q21, elvis_knits, Stephoscope)
2 MafiaSSK (Zorblag, ortolan)
2 Malyss (Xtoxm, Xylthixlm)
1 DrippingGoofball (Empking)
7 Unvote (antihero, BrianMcQueso, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK, Malyss, populartajo, wolfcrier)
17 alive; 9 to lynch.As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
It fills my head up and gets louder andLOUDER-
-
DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
- Mafia Piñata
- Mafia Piñata
- Posts: 40655
- Joined: December 23, 2005
- Location: Violating mith's restraining order
I did a re-read and these are my notes. I'm expecting a phone call to give someone a lift and I'll have to leave, so no time for links. I apologize for the sketchiness (and my earlier loss of patience), but I like to start with an overall read, and then a deeper read.
Zorblag is town. His assessment of zwet was very fair.
There is a small probability that copter bus'ed zwet. He needs to catch scum for his ego, even if it may be his budy. Reading his posts in isolation feels like, while the bunny is being the bunny, there is some evil lurking. Though as usual, zwet has given at least a dozen legitimate reasons to lynch him by page 3.
tajo is town.
Xtomx is likely town.
AH feels town. Very town as per post #192.
Xyl feels town. Later, his #252 is totally town.
BMW is town.
I see some subtle signs from ortolan. Post #177 in particular.
I love the troll.
Malyss' #209 is disturbingly noncommital.
image's #243 feels very townie.
1. Dripping Goofball TOWN
2. BrianMcQueso TOWN
5. image TOWN
6. roflcopter TOWN
8. MafiaSSK DAYMASON
10. antihero TOWN
11. Xtoxm TOWN
14. Stephoscope DAYMASON
15. populartajo TOWN
18. Zorblag TOWN
4. Xylthixlm POSSIBLY SCUM
7. Malyss POSSIBLY SCUM
9. Empking POSSIBLY SCUM
12. elvis_knits POSSIBLY SCUM
13. q21 POSSIBLY SCUM
16. wolfcrier POSSIBLY SCUM
17. ortolan POSSIBLY SCUM
SPECIAL NOTES:
Post 234 Xyl declines to hammer zwet in favor of poptartajo "Feels better than a zwet lynch right now."
Post 230 After zwet claims "cookies and cream" townie, Q21, in the next post, writes: 'Did you miss the point about the people who may have been trying to use the lag while we waited for a zwet claim to get a head start on lurking? Zwet has claimed now though. I think I believe him, but I'll hammer him in a day or so if no one else does. " It's nearly impossible to write #190 as scum. Nearly.
=================================
Next up, I'll be examining the players labeled "POSSIBLY SCUM" one by one, with details and with links & quotes.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet-
-
roflcopter Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6154
- Joined: April 17, 2008
i need to catch scum so town wins. don't liken me to abr.dgb wrote:He needs to catch scum for his egosoi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)-
-
DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
- Mafia Piñata
- Mafia Piñata
- Posts: 40655
- Joined: December 23, 2005
- Location: Violating mith's restraining order
Sorry. A more appropriate word would have been "mafia self-esteem."roflcopter wrote:
i need to catch scum so town wins. don't liken me to abr.dgb wrote:He needs to catch scum for his egoParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
-
-
roflcopter Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6154
- Joined: April 17, 2008
well its true my mafia self-esteem took a hit after war in heaven 2, but i'm back on top of my game now. like i said, no more games with nonstandard lynch mechanics for me.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Sorry. A more appropriate word would have been "mafia self-esteem."roflcopter wrote:
i need to catch scum so town wins. don't liken me to abr.dgb wrote:He needs to catch scum for his egosoi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)-
-
q21 Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1896
- Joined: March 29, 2008
- Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
This is something of a misrep of his play in WIH. He was like a rabid monkey with a chainsaw, yes. But I don't remember him putting up a lynch list... that was me.DrippingGoofball wrote:Why don't you just give us a list, like you did in WIH2, and we'll blindly lynch whoever you want in whatever order you fancy?
Its not your job to control him. No matter how much shouting he does he can't kill off the town by himself, if he spouts nothing but rubbish he'll be ignored. If you genuinely wanted to scumhunt you would ignore rofl and scumhunt.DrippingGoofball wrote:
YOU HAVE TOroflcopter wrote:guys WHY ARE YOU PURSUING POLICY LYNCHES INSTEAD OF ANALYZING THE ZWET WAGON, REACTIONS TO THE ZWET WAGON AND NONREACTIONS TO THE ZWET WAGON?LET US!!!!!!!!!!!
Your more recent post is better, I look forward to seeing those in depth looks at the people you think are possibly scum.
potajo: Why did you claim you could prove you were town when you could do no such thing. I get the feeling that you were hoping that the possibility of that proof would be enough to get people of your wagon."I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
You know those times when you wish you could think of something really funny or interesting to say, but just can't?... Yep, this is one of those times.-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
Wow, I picked a really, really bad weekend to not check my MafiaScum. And half the game has occurred TODAY (Monday!). I'd like to boast that "I lurked towards the 72 hour mark just to get reactions from people", but alas, I was just inactive over the weekend. It has turned up with some useful stuff, though.
I see many references to me and my "chainsaw defense". I am familiar with the term, but I'd like to say that I was protesting the mindless bandwagon, not defending zwet. Re-read the exact post, if you doubt me. I never said the people voting for him were scummy, just that their reasons were pathetic. I'm not sure how likely you are to believe me at this point, considering the results of that wagon, but I guess that's that.
Maybe I missed it in all the clutter, but I don't think I ever got an explanation as towhyzwet was bandwagonned to begin with, other than to test Goof's "meta". I mean, when he said he was going to intentionally lurk, yeah, sure, but that wasaftermy post. But that's why he was lynched, not why the bandwagon started to begin with.
Anyway, that's me. Let's get to some other people.
@ Goof: You seem to be one of the few who believes me to be town after the lynch. I must admit, after the zwet lynch, I look pretty bad. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but… why do you see me as townly?
@ Roflcopter: You seem adamant about lynching SSK before I went to the 72 hours. Previous to the first lynch, I thought it was scum aggressiveness, but I'm starting to see it as just your playstyle. Still, with how I bashed you yesterday, I'd expect you to be on my ass as well.
@Tajo: I'm not digging this stark refusal to claim without a wagon. What does the bandwagon change? Are you just trying to drum up a bandwagon to see who in the town bites? I don't think we need your "sacrifice" (even if it doesn't bloom to full lynch) at this point. With your attitude, I'd think anyone would be willing to put a vote on you because of it, regardless of their alignment.
Why is it a scumtell if you're faking? Because faking is lying. And lying is what the mafia do. And posting restrictions seem really, really dumb in a game like this.SSK, post 300 wrote:
Again, why? Also why is it a scumtell if I'm faking it?Xylthixlm wrote: MafiaSSK's "PR" is fake. Totally fake. No doubt there.
vote MafiaSSK
Alright, I think I'm caught up. If anyone wants to address me directly, I'm listening. If you asked me something in those 14 pages that have happened in 2 days, I'm not ignoring you, I just plain missed it."Only a fool quotes himself." -BrianMcQueso-
-
q21 Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1896
- Joined: March 29, 2008
- Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
-
-
Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
- al;kdjfal;kj
- al;kdjfal;kj
- Posts: 15872
- Joined: March 30, 2009
I'm not sure why SSK is actually writing things in posts now instead of just highlighting with white like he used to, but it doesn't help convince me that he has a PR.
Who else besides scum would fake a PR? And don't give me the whole "bored town" crap.SSK wrote:And you vote me because of it?
I would like Xtomx and Stephoscope to answer my previous question as well.
Tajo wrote:So you think all the people that defended zwet are scum?
All therofl's point system wrote:totals
tajo: 7
xtoxm: 4
brianmcqueso: 4
stephoscope: 3
dgb: 3
image: 3
troll: 2
xyl: 2
wolf: 1
q21: 1
malyss: 1italicizedpeople got points for "defending" zwet at one point or another. Obviously, notallof these people are mafia with zwet. If they were, there would have been 11 people in the mafia at the start of the game. rofl wasn't saying thateveryonewho defended zwet yesterday was scum.
I'm not liking the strawman here...
...immediately followed by the ad hominem on rofl.Tajo wrote:You are once again blinded by your ego of finding scum day 1.
Why is tajo adamant about getting to L-1 before claiming. Is he trying to stall so that someone can lurk to 72 hours without much notice?
I'm not understanding the reason for the Steph vote from tajo.
I don't think the Tracker claim should save Tajo unless he provides satisfactory answers to the above.
There doesn't need to be.DGB wrote:There was no Night 0, you turkey.
He can only prove himself during the day if he's a dayvig, pretty much.
You're either obtuse or scum.
I'm with Steph that the tracker claim doens't change much. Results can be made up. And there's always the possibility of getting "roleblocked" for the rest of the game.
This is a stupid overgeneralization that's not true.Tajo wrote:First, everybody is jumping against me like crazy monkeys WITHOUT giving reasons at all.
Tajo, why are you trying so hard to make it seem like rofl is an egotistical jackass that just cares about being right? I don't think that's the case and your continued ad hominem is really troubling.Tajo wrote:things dont revolve around you, rolf, ya know?
Exactly.Tajo wrote:You are basing your case in my reaction to zwet.
People seriously need to calm down. True, I could see how rofl's posts are irritating, but it's just a game, I'm sure rofl doesn't mean any of it personally.-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
-
-
q21 Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1896
- Joined: March 29, 2008
- Location: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Steph claimed daymason with SSK, does that make any difference to you?BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming."I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
You know those times when you wish you could think of something really funny or interesting to say, but just can't?... Yep, this is one of those times.-
-
Stephoscope Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1768
- Joined: December 9, 2008
- Location: Maryland
I can't speak for MafiaSSK. I really hope he shows up soon.Antihero wrote:
Who else besides scum would fake a PR? And don't give me the whole "bored town" crap.SSK wrote:And you vote me because of it?
I would like Xtomx and Stephoscope to answer my previous question as well.
I know he shouldn't be lynched, that's for sure. But I don't blame you for having voted for him then.-
-
Stephoscope Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1768
- Joined: December 9, 2008
- Location: Maryland
You seem to have a lot to say about everything except the very serious allegations against populartajo, DGB, Xtoxm, and yourself.BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming.
The longer you all give each other a pass for all of the scumminess, the more I feel like roflcopter got it completely right.-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
Yeah. I'm dumb.q21 wrote:
Steph claimed daymason with SSK, does that make any difference to you?BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming."Only a fool quotes himself." -BrianMcQueso-
-
Xtoxm EBWOXM
- EBWOXM
- EBWOXM
- Posts: 12886
- Joined: November 30, 2007
-
-
Stephoscope Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1768
- Joined: December 9, 2008
- Location: Maryland
Technically, I didn't do this. I begged everyone not to lynch MafiaSSK, and then claimed Daymason. Everyone can draw his or her own conclusions.q21 wrote:
Steph claimed daymason with SSK, does that make any difference to you?BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming.-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
Did you not read my big post at all? I thought I completely gave my side of the story against the allegations against me. And I addressed tajo and his refusal to claim. And I'm asking Goof questions in attempts to get a better read. Sure, I didn't say anything regarding Xtoxm, but I think you're way out of line here.Stephoscope wrote:
You seem to have a lot to say about everything except the very serious allegations against populartajo, DGB, Xtoxm, and yourself.BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming.
The longer you all give each other a pass for all of the scumminess, the more I feel like roflcopter got it completely right."Only a fool quotes himself." -BrianMcQueso-
-
Xylthixlm !xmafia win
- !xmafia win
- !xmafia win
- Posts: 5414
- Joined: July 12, 2006
Of all the town roles to fake a post restriction with, mason is at least one of the least bad. That doesn't make it not bad, just less bad.
Stephoscope, am I correct in saying that your role PM doesnotsay that MafiaSSK is town?#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
"Xyl was completely berserk" -dramonic
"Xyl's ruthless policy lynching won the game." -Vi-
-
roflcopter Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6154
- Joined: April 17, 2008
bmq, the chainsaw defense does not in fact imply a direct defense - attacking the bandwagon on a player, or the reasons for an attack on a player, are an indirect defense of the player.
the chainsaw defense works as such
player x attacks player y
player z attacks player xbecause player x attacked player y
chances of players y and z being scum together rise dramatically
in this case, i attacked zwet, then you voted for me based on disagreement with the zwet wagon and my being the most single-minded of the zwet wagoners (not the mention the one who started it). it is an example of a chainsaw defense.soi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)-
-
roflcopter Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6154
- Joined: April 17, 2008
so replace out and let someone who isn't going to be a whiny quitter playXtoxm wrote:I am rapidly losing interest in this game.soi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
Just confirm it then. This isn't something you should be able to go back on later and re-write as you see fit. I mean, really, if you're not confirming him as your partner, then we shouldn't make that assumption, and then that's a whole other ballgame.Stephoscope wrote:
Technically, I didn't do this. I begged everyone not to lynch MafiaSSK, and then claimed Daymason. Everyone can draw his or her own conclusions.q21 wrote:
Steph claimed daymason with SSK, does that make any difference to you?BrianMcQueso wrote:I'm re-reading and trying to better understand this SSK wagon. I find a posting restriction really hard to believe, if that's what he's actually claiming."Only a fool quotes himself." -BrianMcQueso-
-
Xtoxm EBWOXM
- EBWOXM
- EBWOXM
- Posts: 12886
- Joined: November 30, 2007
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.