Open 125: JK9 (Over) before 761

[zwetschenwasser]

See? This is the kind of situation I was referring to, in which the thread will degenerate into a back and forth stupid argument over hammering Empking until the end of the day. Now is a good time to kill emp.

[Sironigous]

TBH..

Empking should claim first?

[zwetschenwasser]

^case in point

[dejkha]

He

should

, but I've been in two games where he has not claimed when he could and should have, so I don't expect he will.

[Sironigous]

I'll wait for his response....

[ThAdmiral]

unvote, vote: zwet

that seemed very opportunistic

[TDC]

So, zwet.
I claimed Emp was at L-1 (which he wasn't) and you "hammered" him without even asking for a role claim.

Why?

[hewitt]

I'm totally not surprised that zwets did not wait for a claim to hammer. So typical. Although yeah I've never seen Empking claim either when he should/could have.

[zwetschenwasser]

Did you read my post on the pros/cons of Emp death on the last page, Thad/TDC?

[TDC]

Your.. what?

Empking lynches are standby's if the game is seriously stalling or a deadline is approaching, which I don't think is the case here, so no, I don't support an Emp lynch at the moment.

Really? Then forget my last post.

Vote: Empking

I hadn't noticed that the degenerating posting was a result over the indecisiveness over Empking.

That's your "pros/cons"?

[zwetschenwasser]

Yes.

[ThAdmiral]

I'm totally not surprised that zwets did not wait for a claim to hammer. So typical. Although yeah I've never seen Empking claim either when he should/could have.

I find it odd that you'd let zwet off the hook for usual bad playstyle, but are condemning empking for the same reason.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't read hewitt's post as condemning...

[hewitt]

I didn't state that either was a good thing. Both are not good in my opinion I don't know why it would think to you that I was supporting zwets decision.

[zwetschenwasser]

I endorse the above statement

[Shinnen_no_Me]

XD

I found the hammering situation really funny. Like "It's over, yay!" Mod: "Nop, not yet." "NOOO!!!!"

Any roads, that situation opened another door for discussion: Zwet sudden eagerness to vote as soon as he learnt that he could hammer Emp. However, I will probably leave this matter for D2. It's true that this day is degenerating already with the whole Emp issue, and we're not going anywhere.

[ThAdmiral]

I didn't state that either was a good thing. Both are not good in my opinion I don't know why it would think to you that I was supporting zwets decision.

I didn't think you were supporting zwets decision. I think you were saying it was bad play but not scummy play.
And yet for some reason you don't think the same thing applies to empking.

XD

I found the hammering situation really funny. Like "It's over, yay!" Mod: "Nop, not yet." "NOOO!!!!"

Any roads, that situation opened another door for discussion: Zwet sudden eagerness to vote as soon as he learnt that he could hammer Emp. However, I will probably leave this matter for D2. It's true that this day is degenerating already with the whole Emp issue, and we're not going anywhere.

Yet another person willing to let zwet off the hook. In this case to set up a potential chain lynch for tomorrow if empking turns up town.
It is also a complete contradiction to say that A) what zwet did was discussion worthy and B) that this day isn't going anywhere (i.e. there's nothing to talk about)!

I'd be willing to bet any amount of money right now that emp is town and shinnen is scum.
The jury's out on zwet.

vote: shinnen

[Grimmy]

im quote happy with my vote, and zwet's jumping at the bit to lynch emp for what is mostly a policy lynch makes me more confident.

Grimmy

[hewitt]

I don't necessarily think that either is a scummy play for those two players because it is so consistent with their playstyle. I hate it but that's how they play.

[zwetschenwasser]

im quote happy with my vote, and zwet's jumping at the bit to lynch emp for what is mostly a policy lynch makes me more confident.

Grimmy

Yet another grasshopper that finds it convenient to ignore my reasoning.

[dejkha]

Mod: Can you prod Emp, please?

[ThAdmiral]

I don't necessarily think that either is a scummy play for those two players because it is so consistent with their playstyle. I hate it but that's how they play.

Then why are you voting emp?

[Empking]

im quote happy with my vote, and zwet's jumping at the bit to lynch emp for what is mostly a policy lynch makes me more confident.

Grimmy

Yet another grasshopper that finds it convenient to ignore my reasoning.

Why don't you repeat your reasoning?

[TDC]

Yes.

So they're not existant.

However, I will probably leave this matter for D2.

Why?
And how do you know there'll be a D2 for you in the first place?

I don't necessarily think that either is a scummy play for those two players because it is so consistent with their playstyle. I hate it but that's how they play.

So.. you'd policy lynch either, but prefer Empking because.. ?

[TDC]

zwet: If you have a track record of hammering people out of the blue as town, provide examples.