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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:21 am

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Er, last night.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:40 am

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I'm waiting to get confirmation as I never heard back from the mod, but I investigated Tuber again to make sure I wasn't doc protected. I figured the scenarios would be a- I'd be alive with the same result and we'd ask the doc to step forward if he DID NOT protect me (as the game would then be over), b- I'd be alive witha different result meaning I was paranoid the first time (and the doc could stay hidden), c- I'd be alive with the same result and the doc would stay hidden (meaning he protected me both nights- stupid in this setup), d- I'd be dead and the doc would either come forward (meaning that he did not protect me and tuber is scum) or he wouldn't come forward meaning that he did protect me and tuber is innocent.

IF YOU DID ***NOT*** PROTECT ME BEFORE LAST NIGHT, PLEASE COME FORWARD DOC, AS THAT PROVES THAT TUBER IS SCUM AND THE GAME IS OVER.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:42 am

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Also, I'd like the tracker to claim and give us their results (especially if they were smart and followed tuber).
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:47 am

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Well I don't like that at all, but we'll sit tight on the mod confirmation in that case.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:49 am

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Shadow Knight wrote:Also, I'd like the tracker to claim and give us their results (especially if they were smart and followed tuber).
Not this.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:50 am

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Basically, this game can be over if any of the following happens...

A- The doc claims and says he did not protect me the first night.
B- The tracker claims and followed tuber last night like he should have.
C- tuber gives up

I trust my gut and investigation, so I've already voted.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:51 am

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Empking wrote:
Shadow Knight wrote:Also, I'd like the tracker to claim and give us their results (
especially
ONLY
if they were smart and followed tuber).
Not this.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:57 am

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Shadow Knight wrote:Also, I'd like the tracker to claim and give us their results (especially if they were smart and followed tuber).
This is completely unnecessary. If the doc comes forward than I'm scum. If the doc doesn't that means I'm town and there is no reason for the tracker to reveal himself if I'm already confirmed.

The tracker should only tell his/her results if he/she watched the person that targeted GIEFF.

Also, you were an idiot to investigate me again.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:02 am

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The doc not claiming doesn't mean you're town.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:04 am

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SK wrote:@Tracker- don't bother watching Tuber or me tonight. I'll be dead or roleblocked and Tuber is confirmed scum. Find the other scum (praying you don't get roleblocked and you're not Grandi). You have a 1 in 5 chance to find scum.
SK wrote:B- The tracker claims and followed tuber last night like he should have.
SK, could you explain this to me?

Also, why did you investigate me once more?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:06 am

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Empking wrote:The doc not claiming doesn't mean you're town.
This largely depends on what the result of S K's investigation last night was.

While it's true the doc not claiming doesn't equate to Tuber being town, the doc would have to be pretty friggin stupid not to claim if he didn't target S K at all.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:07 am

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Empking wrote:The doc not claiming doesn't mean you're town.
If the cop protected SK, than I'm town. If he didn't I'm scum. The doc knows who he protected. If he protected someone else than SK, he should stay quiet and not reveal his role.

So I would have to disagree with you. If no one claims to have protected SK N1, I am definetaly town. Unless the doc DID protect SK, but is a complete moron and doesn't tell us.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:11 am

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@tuber- read the first one again. I wanted him to try and find the other remaining scum. Then grandi flipped scum. YOU are the last remaining scum, so I would hope he watched you. If you managed to kill me, then he could attest that you were the one who targeted me. I investigated you again because it removed the uncertainty for me. If I got the same result and lived then we just need the doc to come forward and say he didn't protect me last night. If I got a different result and lived, I can say i got a different result and we both get to confirm you as town and keep the doc hiddden. If I'm dead, I don't get to tell my results anyway.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:14 am

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@Tuber- that is crap logic. If I had doc protection both nights and got scum both nights, it DOES NOT CONFIRM YOU AS TOWN. It means my result is invalid. Protection makes me paranoid, not insane. The fact that you just went there makes me certain of your alignment regardless.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:18 am

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just waiting for ac, kmd, and phily to show up. *sigh* I hate waiting.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:22 am

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Shadow Knight wrote:@Tuber- that is crap logic. If I had doc protection both nights and got scum both nights, it DOES NOT CONFIRM YOU AS TOWN. It means my result is invalid. Protection makes me paranoid, not insane. The fact that you just went there makes me certain of your alignment regardless.
Oh.

Duh. :oops:

You need a mod confirm on your result from last night, but I see no reason not to lynch Tuber now in light of this.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:28 am

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Actually, if the doc claims and says he didn't protect me night 1, that's still game over.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:30 am

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That is a mistake from my part. Much apologies. This means however that no one should claim before we know your results from N2.

Mod: Have everyone gotten their night action's results?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:32 am

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DraketheFake wrote:
Shadow Knight wrote:@Tuber- that is crap logic. If I had doc protection both nights and got scum both nights, it DOES NOT CONFIRM YOU AS TOWN. It means my result is invalid. Protection makes me paranoid, not insane. The fact that you just went there makes me certain of your alignment regardless.
Oh.

Duh. :oops:

You need a mod confirm on your result from last night,
but I see no reason not to lynch Tuber now in light of this
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Let's see... Oh yeah, maybe because I might be town?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:39 am

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Right, but we can mislynch up to two times, all three of our power roles are still alive, and the only way you're confirmed is if S K's results differed from night to night.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:40 am

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Tuberkulos wrote: If the cop protected SK, than I'm town.
No, that would just mean the result on you came back guilty regardless of alignment.
Shadow Knight wrote:just waiting for ac, kmd, and phily to show up. *sigh* I hate waiting.
I'm here. Are you waiting for something from me? I've already agreed that the doc should claim if, and only if, he did NOT protect you Night 1.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:18 am

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DraketheFake wrote:Right, but we can mislynch up to two times, all three of our power roles are still alive, and the only way you're confirmed is if S K's results differed from night to night.
Or if the tracker watched me or the person who targeted GIEFF.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:32 am

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Actually, if the tracker comes forward, regardless, the doc can still protect him. (Yes I know I'd be sacrificing myself, but the doc doesn't interfere with tracker abilities.)
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:43 am

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CLAIM - TRACKER

last night I tracked tuber, he visited no one. Ergo, he is not scum.
This is why I wanted to know if the doc had protected SK N1, because, if not, that would have to mean that SK was lying. Now granted, a cc would've been expected if this were the case, but maybe the real cop didn't have time to cc? I don't know. But I know that tuber is not scum (shockingly).
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:04 pm

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