Right. Enough procrastinating, time to take a look at this thread. From my last post, P9 (post 208).
I like Spolium's thinking in
Post 209. I think that allowing Gateway to live is simply too risky.
Sekinj wrote:Which is exactly what I said about why i dont' think the role is so powerful. introduce a little wifom, and you cut back a role's power dramatically.
Had gateway not had to claim today, do you still think the role would not be all that powerful?
Gateway wrote:Not so much that I skim, but as I said I am still on meds (not strongly now) so I don't like to retype things I feel I have answered.
Off-topic, I hope you're OK - but since we don't know what the meds are, or how they might addle you, it doesn't count as a defence in my eyes. I understand you may have answered that repeatedly, however I would have liked you to at least quoted it and directed me to where you had answered it.
Sekinj wrote:I, for one, expect weird roles in a theme game...
However, this game could be no more 'theme' than having a flavour.
Gateway wrote:- Still no 100% on who the scum is, only a 50% chance.
No. You claim you are 100% sure that ONE of them is scum. One dies, the over is 100% scum. The scum dies, the other is 100% town.
ThAdmiral wrote:- we let gateway live.
- tonight he uses his ability and chooses to kill someone
- if the someone he kills is town we lynch him tomorrow after he gives us the other name, if he then turns up town we lynch the other name the next day
- if the someone he kills is scum we let him live again, and repeat the process
a) if he is town the mafia will most likely kill him anyway, and if he doesn't get killed then we have a ridiculously overpowered role with us and will win the game shortly.
b) if he is scum the only way he gets to survive is if he gives us a scum per night, which is a damn good deal for us townies.
c) if he is scum and doesn't want to give up his scumbuddies then he will die shortly and we will have lynched a scum on day 2 which isn't bad.
Introduce WIFOM after he's killed a scumbuddy or two, and he could still get away with it. I don't like this. Partly because of Post 209.
Verbosity wrote:ThAdmiral's plan relies on Gateway actually killing, which I think he will dodge and say that he didn't find either scummy
This is also a good point.
Gateway wrote:Then Panzer claims I said I couldn't be night killed; that came out of eastbumblefek, nowhere.
You have mentioned this a few times and it seems to have been ignored.
Could you please QUOTE and give the POST NUMBER of where Panzer has lied, state the lie, and explain why it is so. If it's true, I'll certainly pay it heed.
Verbosity wrote:Frankness, no need to cover up with false humility, townish. References to personal life, with light hearted behaviour, townish. Assumptions about my intent, scummish.
Interesting. Do you really believe that people answering questions or making statements about RL is due to their role, or just their real-life character/personality?
Gateway wrote:As for Molestargzaer and Archon. I stated in a previous post on day one nothing can be seen as proof. I am townie and I've seen people twist my words so they could just be falling for that effect or misreading. Only Panzer has clearly lied about something I know 100%
Wishy-washy. Take a look at our posts. Do you think one of us is more likey to be scum than another? Why?
Bloody hell, I'm only onto page 11 now.
I'm going to take a quick break. If I don't post more tonight, I will do at some point tomorrow.