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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:06 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:
It's a slight increase in scum hitting a power role vs getting potentially useful information, that being the partner's opinion of cry with respect to night talk.
It's friggin' Day 1. How much useful information do you think he has? Seriously, you gotta be scum.
Yet again, you've pulled that quote out of context with the rest of my post.

Unvote. Vote: MBF
. Unfounded assumptions about setup that suggest additional knowledge, poor logic in terms of reactions to cry's claim, selectively quoting, skirting questions, etc.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:19 am

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Updating. Typing as (re)reading
From CK post 285
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Citizen Karne wrote:
Do random votes really count towards anything anyway? How is a random FoS any different? I suppose it prevents speedlynching a little. I really can't see any difference. If you want to make a big deal about me not voting, well that's silly. This is how I play. Deal with it. If you want to call me scum because of it, go ahead. I'd love to see your argument on how it makes me scum in this game as opposed to other games where I have been town. I do not think it is at all anti-town, either. It certainly does not inhibit my ability to discuss intelligently.

My FoSes are, for all intents and purposes, votes.

Speaking of FoSes that are, for all intents and purposes, votes, I dislike Gorrad's play so far. His second post seems to me like he is trying to stay out of the focus. His retraction of his analysis of TSQ seems as though he is backing out of a possible confrontation for the sole purpose of not getting into an argument with a player rather than simply mixing up people in his head. (I don't feel as though I am expressing myself accurately, but hopefully you understand me.) With whom did you confuse TSQ in your head, Gorrad?

Also, his posts in response to Haterade strike me as overly hypocritical cheap shots to try and gain town points by advocating for discussion.
Is this good enough? Here I am asking Gorrad a question about an action I consider scummy and looking for a response to help me form an opinion

Also, why does neither my analysis of the game nor various back-and-forths not count as scumhunting (I'm assuming you couldn't have overlooked those, but if you did by all means tell me)? They prompted discussion and certainly helped me (and I'm sure others too) formulate opinions on people in the game. Maybe we just don't consider the same things scumhunting. If not scumhunting, they certainly helped move along the game and provided solid content, neither of which I think of as anti-town. Why do you think I'm more scummy than, say, Gorrad?
The question to Gorrad is scum hunting I guess, but back and forths about you lack of votes/use of FoS is hardly scum hunting. That is reacting to people attacking you. Analysis…also is just your opinion and has nothing to do with scum hunting. I think you are more scummy than Gorrad because of your play. The way you maneuver or at least leave yourself open to maneuver. I appreciated your stance on everyone without being asked to do it, but something with your recent posts are sticking out.

crywolf20084 wrote:Arch srsly, You sound all depressed and blaaaaaah and like this game has no interest to you. Liven up could ya??

TSQ had his computer stolen..So did Haterade. Though Haterade, but he wasn't here prior to that. Kloud is a different story. I asked him to post once but he hasn't yet. Hrmmm...

Unvote/Vote: Kloud
Policy vote. though its for the exact same thing i was doing
God I hate this post too.

Cry you never answered my questions...you have been lurking here but posting everywhere else...so, given your logic on voting kloud, why shouldnt I return my vote on you?...
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ML post, 294 is a very good one
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2) How do you know all frogs are vanilla?
What makes you think they aren't?
fishing?

MBL, however does have a point about the claim being risky.
scotmany12 wrote:Guys, this whole argument is distracting us from lynching Gorrad. MBF and Dahill should join forces and help bring down the scum gorrad.
“Hi, I am posting just to post”

Not a helpful post.
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curiouskarmadog wrote:welcome farside, good to be in a game with you again..

question, what do you think of this comment for CK in reference to CW?
Been waiting for anyone to comment on this..but no one has yet....


still comfortable with my vote on CW however...for now
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crywolf20084 wrote:I too am LA due to the fact I work tonight, tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday...along with two art projects that desperately need working on because its due on Monday. I may need replacing...I dunno how much I can catch up with...I will try.
9 pages is not that much...you seem to be active everywhere else..why?
If she truly is active elsewhere, then this lurking is very disturbing to me.
FoS: crywolf20084
Why exactly were you waiting for others to respond before doing so yourself? What does waiting for others to notice something accomplish? Why bring this up when farside "replaces" in, when it was something you had felt needed to be addressed (as you state above) before?
I was curious who was scum hunting and who might comment on this first..and then who would agree after… Trying to find links and connections to people….or on the flip side, see who attacks who and why. As it stands no one did, until I commented on it. I wanted to see how Farside’s view of CK differed from MBF’s (or lack thereof)..also, I was tired of waiting.

MBF vs. ML’s debate on mason.

I think that if Cry has a mason partner and that partner had anything important to bring to the table right now..he/she would. Cry is either scum or mason…maybe both, but I am doubting it. I believe Cry’s claim….I also think that Cry is probably new to the game. I think that the partner coming out right now will hurt us more than help us…If Cry is indeed telling the truth, at this point, Cry’s claim has nullified the usefulness of role. My biggest problem was Cry’s attack of that partner….did you ever explain why you thought it might be a good idea to lynch your partner?
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:50 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:
It's a slight increase in scum hitting a power role vs getting potentially useful information, that being the partner's opinion of cry with respect to night talk.
It's friggin' Day 1. How much useful information do you think he has?
QFT.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:55 pm

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Unvote. Vote: MBF. Unfounded assumptions about setup that suggest additional knowledge, poor logic in terms of reactions to cry's claim...
Oh, the irony!
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:00 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
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Yes, a duck could be a potentially risky claim
Thank you, moving on now.
You're really good at selectively quoting to serve your needs, aren't you?
agreed this was taken way out of context
I was being sarcastic, geez.
dahill1 wrote:also, we need more people posting besides the 4-5 that are doing so now
Agreed.
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It's friggin' Day 1. How much useful information do you think he has? Seriously, you gotta be scum.
Yet again, you've pulled that quote out of context with the rest of my post.
Not really. I just quoted the important point of your post.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:41 am

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Vote Count:

3: crywolf20084
(Raging Rabbit, dahill1, Gorrad)
1: Archon
(TSQ)
1: Gorrad
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1: Citizen Karne
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1: kloud1516
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1: MacavityLock
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1: mikeburnfire
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Citizen Karne, Archon, kloud


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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:18 pm

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right now, the claimed mason has the most votes, thoughts?

also would like the said claimed mason to answer my f-ing questions.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:20 pm

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honestly i'm fine with my vote as she still has not convinced me for why she would possibly suggest lynching her partner. she hasn't really done anything else either
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:57 pm

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Wow, I did NOT realise that my vote was still on CW.

Unvote


I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, here. I haven't liked CW's play so far, and I'm not opposed to the idea of a scum duck mason, but it's out there enough that I'll not lynch D1.

To whomever is partnered with CW: If your role is 'neighbor', or ANYTHING other than 'mason', please say so now. If it's 'mason', then do NOT say anything. If it's not mason, I'll likely lynch CW on the spot. If nothing is said, we can assume that it IS mason, and we don't out the partner.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:45 am

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NOTE: I'm going to be gone on the weekend and have limited access during the next week (which luckily coincides with the Night Phase), but I'll be here until Friday.

REMINDER: at deadline, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

I wouldn't mind lynching MacLock, RagingRabbit or dahill today. But since neither of them have any other votes, I'm going to
unvote, Vote No lynch
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Gorrad, who do you think we should kill? With TSQ gone, you're the person I trust the most right now. Even though you have been eerily low-key all day phase.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:37 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:Gorrad, who do you think we should kill? With TSQ gone, you're the person I trust the most right now. Even though you have been eerily low-key all day phase.
I'm leaning towards Karne: the 50-50 thing really bothered me, as did his outright dismissal of my meta. I'm going to do a full readthrough tonight and get back with a definite answer.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:NOTE: I'm going to be gone on the weekend and have limited access during the next week (which luckily coincides with the Night Phase), but I'll be here until Friday.

REMINDER: at deadline, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

I wouldn't mind lynching MacLock, RagingRabbit or dahill today. But since neither of them have any other votes, I'm going to
unvote, Vote No lynch
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Gorrad, who do you think we should kill? With TSQ gone, you're the person I trust the most right now. Even though you have been eerily low-key all day phase.
No lynch? you
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:16 am

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going to be V/LA this friday to sunday (april 3-5)
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:48 am

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I am fine with a Karne lynch and not fine with a No Lynch. But some serious prods are in order.

Archon, still nothing to comment on?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:54 am

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oh wow i completely forgot he was even playing
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:10 am

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I'm here, don't prod me. No Lynch is bad MBF. Still prefer a Gorrad lynch, though he has been getting better.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:07 pm

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I have one thing to do, as this mexican internet is moving like a river of dung.

Vote crywolf

for not voting for... *checks calendar* 5 days.
After getting so many votes, just disapearing is the easiest way to not deal with questions. It also definatley shows that he is scum.

Also, I will be posting more once I get home. I'm on vacation, thus I'm mostly at the beach, and not glued to a computer screen like when I'm at home.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:24 pm

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Thoughts:

mikeburnfire/Farside22 - Generally good, intelligent posts. Likely town.
dahill1 - Generally short posts, some distinctly lacking in content. Better than CW or Scot.
curiouskarmadog - I'd bet on town. Really good posts, and I'm getting good vides from him.
Raging Rabbit - Has made 10 posts all game.
FoS: RR
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kloud1516 - Like CKD.
crywolf20084 - Lurking, short posts. Questionable claim. REALLY don't like 208. Several empty posts saying that he can provide content, but that don't provide content. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, at least D1.
Haterade/Archon - Haterade I liked. Archon's done nothing but vote someone for lurking while lurking himself.
scotmany12 - Tunnelvisioned on me, which I obviously don't like. Not unfounded, though. Also lurking. Last person I played with who played like Scot is now was scum. Doesn't mean Scot is, but still suspicious.
MacavityLock - Seems to be bringing up some pretty good points. Likely town.
Citizen Karne - As mentioned, do NOT like the 50-50 thing, nor the meta dismissal. Pretty good odds of being scum.
Thestatusquo - I don't like him. I don't think that has a big effect on allignment, though. And he's been gone for weeks.

Karne or Scot I would be happy lynching, but my Scot suspicion has a good measure of OMGUS in it.

Vote: Citizen Karne
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:40 pm

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Archon wrote:I have one thing to do, as this mexican internet is moving like a river of dung.

Vote crywolf

for not voting for... *checks calendar* 5 days.
After getting so many votes, just disapearing is the easiest way to not deal with questions. It also definatley shows that he is scum.

Also, I will be posting more once I get home. I'm on vacation, thus I'm mostly at the beach, and not glued to a computer screen like when I'm at home.
from 0-100% how sure are you that crywolf is scum?
would you vote anyone else for not voting for 5 days?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:08 pm

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Holy cow, we got a comprehensive post out of Gorrad!

I could see moving my vote over to Archon, but I don't know about Karne. I would need to review his posts first.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:10 pm

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Archon wrote:I have one thing to do, as this mexican internet is moving like a river of dung.

Vote crywolf

for not voting for... *checks calendar* 5 days.
After getting so many votes, just disapearing is the easiest way to not deal with questions. It also definatley shows that he is scum.

Also, I will be posting more once I get home. I'm on vacation, thus I'm mostly at the beach, and not glued to a computer screen like when I'm at home.
A) For everyone who keeps calling me a guy, learn to locate the little symbol below my avatar first.
B) I have disappeared for personal reasons. Sorry. I'm back for the moment. And when I tend to post in my games, is on monday's and wensday's on my break between my classes, and i have had no internet at school.
C) At the moment, you are the only person not believeing my claim, which I kinda find interesting.

Now, I have noticed you haven't said much either. You showed up. Said you read, and then had nothing what so ever to say about this game. Found it odd then and I still find it odd.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:12 pm

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mikeburnfire wrote:Holy cow, we got a comprehensive post out of Gorrad!
Well, yeah. It's been 14 pages, I actually have material.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:34 pm

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crywolf20084 wrote:Now, I have noticed you haven't said much either. You showed up. Said you read, and then had nothing what so ever to say about this game. Found it odd then and I still find it odd.
i, personally, find it odd that you are attacking archon for virtually the same exact thing you did
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:12 am

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Cry any reason you keep ignoring my questions?

MBF, you ever been in a normal game that the town no lynched day 1?

The Archon vote of Cry surprised the shit out of me...guess I read something wrong.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:03 am

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Well, I have not ignored any questions like you have. (and sorry. My glasses are broken, so I couldn't see the gender identifier)

Your explanation seems reasonable, although you still haven't answered questions posed to you
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