War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)
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Anyone stepping outside a boundry after it has been enforced, in my eyes, is anti-town.The Fonz wrote:No.
It would be individually giving up your hurt for 24hrs at a time, so that any player who hurt unilaterally would be similarly hurt. (obviously, if someone actually needs to hurt, we move onto the next enforcer on the list).
For the alternate suggestion to work, we need everyone to commit to a 24 hour watch, and that they will go ahead with the said counter-hurt.
If we can get all active players to agree, fine.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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I don't think unsupported hurts/heals are that much of a problem. To enforce it with death would removes flexibility in our play, slow us down, etc. I think it should be a case-by-case basis. No unsupported actions should be a guideline, not some rule blindly enforced with an iron fist.Firestarter wrote:Are you objecting to having a stance on the unilateral hurts/heals DGB?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Now this worries me. Can't just we all just behave and be accountable for our hurts? If Townies are irresposnisible enough to hurt people without proper discussion, opinion from others and rebuttal etc. I feel that it will just spread out the hurts.The Fonz wrote:No.
It would be individually giving up your hurt for 24hrs at a time, so that any player who hurt unilaterally would be similarly hurt. (obviously, if someone actually needs to hurt, we move onto the next enforcer on the list).Yes. That same Tenchi.
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The Fonz Jack of All Trades
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We don't need all active players. Five or six is probably enough.Firestarter wrote:
Anyone stepping outside a boundry after it has been enforced, in my eyes, is anti-town.The Fonz wrote:No.
It would be individually giving up your hurt for 24hrs at a time, so that any player who hurt unilaterally would be similarly hurt. (obviously, if someone actually needs to hurt, we move onto the next enforcer on the list).
For the alternate suggestion to work, we need everyone to commit to a 24 hour watch, and that they will go ahead with the said counter-hurt.
If we can get all active players to agree, fine.
# Albert B. Rampage
# Drench Firestarter
# DrippingGoofball
# Giuseppe
# Nuwen
# populartajo
# q21
# roflcopter
# Seraphim
# Tenchi
# The Fonz
# vIQleS
# WeyounsLastClone
# Xylthixlm
# zwetschenwasser
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I have to say, I find DGB's idea a bit better in a perfect world, but it's a bit idealistic. I think if we could get a group of people who present the CounterHurt unit, then we could leave the rest of the town to their devises.
Maybe, say, three or four people who would dedicate their hurts to dealing with unilateral action?Just type Giu.-
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That, too.Tenchi wrote:I feel that it will just spread out the hurts.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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They may not seem to be a problem, but especially with unsupported hurts, they WILL BE the longer the game goes on.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I don't think unsupported hurts/heals are that much of a problem. To enforce it with death would removes flexibility in our play, slow us down, etc. I think it should be a case-by-case basis. No unsupported actions should be a guideline, not some rule blindly enforced with an iron fist.Firestarter wrote:Are you objecting to having a stance on the unilateral hurts/heals DGB?
Particularly if no heals are offered up.
If we have some sort of system in place, its entirely better than whats there at the moment... zilch..
The Fonz wrote:Well, I'm fully charged, and don't particularly like any of the viable wagons. So I'll go first. Please type /in to enforce if wishing to be added to the rota./in('') (':') ('')-
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I think it's a bit late to be coming up with new complicated plans...The Fonz wrote:Ah, I've had an idea. Designate a specific player as designated enforcer, on a 24 hr rota. That player may not harm or heal of their own volition, but will be required to enforce the hurting without support rule (not needing support). If they break it, everyone else in the scheme masshurts, no questions asked.
We don't even need full compliance for this, as long as there's enough partaking to defend the system.
I think the best way may be to just carry on - but insisting on (3?) intents before hurting... Even this I'm not sure about because it still seems easy for scum to manipulate the system...
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I'll support (and participate in) a WLC or ABR hurt.
As soon as my watch expires, I'll be hurting whoever has the most support... (least? you know what I mean...)
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Xyl and Rofl are not both scum. It is possible that they are both town, but I've had them both on my scum list since very early on.
Given that - how likely is it that rofl is scum? if he kills Xyl on his own (and X flips town), then he must know that he'll be killed immediately. Is it worth it to scum at the moment to sacrifice 1 scum for 1 town?
Based on this logic (comments appreciated), Xyl is more likely to be scum.Show[size=75]
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Idealistic? Has it been that much of a problem in practice?Giuseppe wrote:I have to say, I find DGB's idea a bit better in a perfect world, but it's a bit idealistic. I think if we could get a group of people who present the CounterHurt unit, then we could leave the rest of the town to their devises.
Maybe, say, three or four people who would dedicate their hurts to dealing with unilateral action?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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If townies are irresponsible enough to do that, it will spread out the hurts. It's a deterrent.Tenchi wrote:
Now this worries me. Can't just we all just behave and be accountable for our hurts? If Townies are irresposnisible enough to hurt people without proper discussion, opinion from others and rebuttal etc. I feel that it will just spread out the hurts.The Fonz wrote:No.
It would be individually giving up your hurt for 24hrs at a time, so that any player who hurt unilaterally would be similarly hurt. (obviously, if someone actually needs to hurt, we move onto the next enforcer on the list).
Not just- that's an excuse for noncontribution. If we can get enough people that you're only giving up one day a week though, it works.Giuseppe wrote:I have to say, I find DGB's idea a bit better in a perfect world, but it's a bit idealistic. I think if we could get a group of people who present the CounterHurt unit, then we could leave the rest of the town to their devises.
Maybe, say, three or four people who would dedicate their hurts to dealing with unilateral action?-
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Currently we seem to have set 3 players to support a Hurt.Giuseppe wrote:I have to say, I find DGB's idea a bit better in a perfect world, but it's a bit idealistic. I think if we could get a group of people who present the CounterHurt unit, then we could leave the rest of the town to their devises.
Maybe, say, three or four people who would dedicate their hurts to dealing with unilateral action?
If someone violates this, then they recieve a counter hurt from the assigned counter hurt unit.
If the nominated Counter Hurt Player fails in his duty, or hurts/heals elsewhere, then they should be open to punishment.
Im off for the evening guys, grabbing some popcorn and watching the truman Show.
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DrippingGoofball wrote:
I don't think unsupported hurts/heals are that much of a problem. To enforce it with death would removes flexibility in our play, slow us down, etc. I think it should be a case-by-case basis. No unsupported actions should be a guideline, not some rule blindly enforced with an iron fist.Firestarter wrote:Are you objecting to having a stance on the unilateral hurts/heals DGB?#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Well, I'd rather go for "Townies" who are apparently leading us to a series of Townie lynches, especially with crappy reasons drawn from one or two circumstancial reasons.The Fonz wrote:
If townies are irresponsible enough to do that, it will spread out the hurts. It's a deterrent.Tenchi wrote:
Now this worries me. Can't just we all just behave and be accountable for our hurts? If Townies are irresposnisible enough to hurt people without proper discussion, opinion from others and rebuttal etc. I feel that it will just spread out the hurts.The Fonz wrote:No.
It would be individually giving up your hurt for 24hrs at a time, so that any player who hurt unilaterally would be similarly hurt. (obviously, if someone actually needs to hurt, we move onto the next enforcer on the list).
I suggest we continue the review of the last few Townie wagons and the Shinnen case and see what we get there.Yes. That same Tenchi.
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