Open 125: JK9 (Over) before 761

[Empking]

Yes.

[Sironigous]

... to the first or second question?... or both?

[hewitt]

Anyways no we do not all have the same reasons for an Empking lynch I already gave my main reason for wanting to lynch him which is displayed in my quoted post above.

So.. that's uselessness/confusion, right?

Nooo...my main reason for why I would back an Empking lynch is because his game is so consistently ambiguous that determining his scum play from his town play is impossible and that's why it's easier for the town to get rid of him early in the game.

[Empking]

... to the first or second question?... or both?

First

Hewitt: Would it be fair to say that your reason is "Because Hewitt is lazy"?

[hewitt]

No, that's not the reason at all and you know it.

[Empking]

It sounds like the reason.

Hewitt: How easy do you find reading someone who doesn't scum hunt and only want policy lynches?

[Light-kun]

To be, or not to be? That is the question—
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And, by opposing, end them? To die, to sleep—
No more—and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to—'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished! To die, to sleep.
To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.(

Ham

.3.1.58-71)

Current Vote Count:

Empking -3- (Dejkha, Shinnen_no_Me, zwetchenwasser)

Zwetchenwasser -2- (Sironigous, TDC)
TDC -1- (ThAdmiral)
ThAdmiral -1- (Grimmy)
Hewitt -1- (Empking)

[dejkha]

@Mod

: Can you prod Zwet about this game. I know it hasn't been very long, but he's a very frequent poster in all games and since he said he's in 17 games, I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot about this one.

[hewitt]

It sounds like the reason.

Hewitt: How easy do you find reading someone who doesn't scum hunt and only want policy lynches?

Depends on which player you're referring to.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm surprised. This is the first game that I don't find Sironigous scummy. He's making sense!

[ThAdmiral]

Are you calling emp a "useless townie"? If so how do you know he's a townie?

I'm not calling him a useless townie, but it appears that TDC thinks he is, which is why he's against Emp's lynch.

No, tdc just said that despite his playstyle he still has the same chance of being scum as any one of us. I find it interesting that you used that phrase.

It sounds like the reason.

Hewitt: How easy do you find reading someone who doesn't scum hunt and only want policy lynches?

And this is a good point.

[dejkha]

No, tdc just said that despite his playstyle he still has the same chance of being scum as any one of us. I find it interesting that you used that phrase.

That's not what I got out of it. Either way, don't be interested that I said "townie", it's a common mistake since it's not often people will refer to everyone as "villager" or something like that, so it's rarely a tell. I'll refer to everyone as a townie until it's confirmed that they're something else.

[dejkha]

Oh yes...

It sounds like the reason.

Hewitt: How easy do you find reading someone who doesn't scum hunt and only want policy lynches?

And this is a good point.

1. Saying Emp has a good point is an oxymoron.
2. How do you expect me to do much scumhunting at all when Emp hijacks every game he's in? I like how you agree with his obvious over exaggeration of how much I want policy lynches.

I don't have much on you now, but I have a very bad feeling about you by that posted alone.

[dejkha]

EBWOP: "by that

post

alone"

No big, just correcting it.

[TDC]

No, tdc just said that despite his playstyle he still has the same chance of being scum as any one of us. I find it interesting that you used that phrase.

That's not what I got out of it.

How so?
I've explicitly said I have no read on him.

[dejkha]

When you bypass his scumminess and claim to have no read on him as see that as thinking someones more likely town.

[TDC]

You think he's more likely to be scum in this game than chance would have it?

[TDC]

You think he's more likely to be scum in this game than chance would have it?

[ThAdmiral]

How do you expect me to do much scumhunting at all when Emp hijacks every game he's in? I like how you agree with his obvious over exaggeration of how much I want policy lynches.

You do really want policy lynches.

[Empking]

It sounds like the reason.

Hewitt: How easy do you find reading someone who doesn't scum hunt and only want policy lynches?

Depends on which player you're referring to.

Can you just answer with the information given to you.

Unvote
Vote: Dejhka

The townie slip and wanting two policy lynches which is rare even for him.

[dejkha]

You think he's more likely to be scum in this game than chance would have it?

I'm done trying to read him. If he doesn't want to adjust his scummy play, then I'll gladly lynch him. If someone else appears scummier then I'll switch my vote, but I doubt that'll happen when all anyone is talking about is Emp.

You do really want policy lynches.

I said 2 people were policy lynches, which they are. Emp, at the very least, is and just because he posts, that doesn't make him better than Grimmy. That's not the same as "only wanting policy lynches" as you agreed with.

[hewitt]

If someone is ONLY willing to policy lynch then I'd say that's scummy to answer your question Empking.

[Empking]

Hewitt: I'm getting a curious read from that post. Do you think Dejkha has done something other than push policy lynches?

[TDC]

You think he's more likely to be scum in this game than chance would have it?

I'm done trying to read him. If he doesn't want to adjust his scummy play, then I'll gladly lynch him. If someone else appears scummier then I'll switch my vote, but I doubt that'll happen when all anyone is talking about is Emp.

So: No you don't think he's more likely to be scum in this game than chance would have it.
In other words: You have no read on him.

When you bypass his scumminess and claim to have no read on him as see that as thinking someones more likely town.

What, then, am I bypassing, and how does me having the same opinion regarding his alignment (though different opinion with regard to having him policy lynched) imply I think "he's more likely town"?

[dejkha]

What, then, am I bypassing, and how does me having the same opinion regarding his alignment (though different opinion with regard to having him policy lynched) imply I think "he's more likely town"?

Distracting and confusing town, OMGUS voting (it's Emp, so I don't need to read the thread to know it's there, but I'm sure I could find an example), misrepresenting others positions on certain matters and claiming so many things are scum tells possibly to get attention of him. The fact that you bypass these scummy actions implies that you think he's town. Because I highly doubt you're gonna ignore all those and think he's scum.