Mini 754 - Frogs Mafia Game, Set and Match.

[crywolf20084]

(6:51:27 PM) soccerh888: cay's a nazi
(6:51:27 PM) CryWolf20084: yes

moving on, why would a truly random vote be optimal for you?
also, this is unrelated but a d11 actually has a higher chance of landing on you than a d12 :/

d11 was because i was excluding myself... >_>

[Shanba]

Vote Count:

2: Scotmany12

(TSQ, MBF)

2: Curiouskarmadog

(MacavityLock, crywolf)

2: crywolf

(Raging Rabbit, dahill)

1: Raging Rabbit

(ckd)

1: dahill1

(scotmany12)
Not Voting:

Gorrad, kloud1516, Haterade, Citizen Karne

7 to drown someone in the swamp!

[Raging Rabbit]

Wolf, how does a truely random vote help the game get going in any way?

[crywolf20084]

Well did it not start converstation?

[Thestatusquo]

Dear crywolf, please answer the following questions:

Why do you feel its a good idea to remove accountability from your vote?

Instead of angering someone, I just used dice. (For sometimes they are quiet right)

If the dice had landed on you, would you have voted yourself? If so, why? If not, why not?

If I had rolled a d12 dice and it landed on myself, then yes, but i only rolled a d11.

In 50 words or more please summarize why you feel that
a) Random voting in the manner you do is helpful to the town, b) why it is optimum play for you, and c) What you think would happen if everyone did it?

a) I have no idea how it effects the town, for I have never used it before. B) Its a truly random vote, and c) I don’t know, though I could see the game would be much more boring.

Answer this in your next post or expect the first non random vote of the game to be on you.

And one question to you, how is my TRULY random vote worthy of an non-random one?

1) Generally, avoiding the ire of other players is something scum want to do more than townies. Also, I've never seen anyone upset by being random voted.

2) Ok, so your vote wasn't truly random.


3) Well, generally the way it effects the town is that it removes responsibility for your actions from you. (I didn't do it, the dice did it) which makes it harder for the town to attack the random vote, and by extension, you. This makes it harder for the town to leave the RVS, which to me, makes it a pretty anti town move. As for B, I didn't ask you what it was, I asked why you thought it was optimum strategy, because generally I think it's piss poor strategy for town. What would happen is that no one would take any actions that could be read, and we would never leave the RVS d1.

As to your question, I am of the firm opinion that voting via dice is an anti town action. Now, that doesn't make it a scum tell, but it does make it a possible scum tell, which makes me perfectly willing to vote for it if I think the person using it is aware of that fact, and purposefully using the vote to remove responsibility from themselves, and slow the game down. However, in general I am pretty satisfied with how you answered my questions, so I'm pretty content to change tacts here.

Rabbit:

Please answer the following questions:

1) Why did you think my questions were so important that you had to make sure they were answered?

2) What made you think they were likely to be unanswered if you didn't vote to back them up?

3) How could you possibly learn anything from a player from me simply asking him questions. Why wouldn't you vote after he answered them, as opposed to before?

4) What do you think of gorrads play so far?

[dahill1]

Word? Don't you know about the bird? Well, everyone knows that the bird is a word.

Aaaaaaand enough of that froggy bull (GET IT? IT'S A PUN!).

FoS: MBF

for being a traitor to one of your kin.

On the other hand, Michigan is an land populated entirely by criminals, as everyone knows, and criminals are used to not being trusted, as CW is not trusted by you, so not only can he not choose the wine in front of you, but your suspicion of him is founded on solid evidence.

UnFoS

.

TSQ is probably town by virtue of being totally unhelpful. He's like Flameaxe that way.

if everyone in Michigan are criminals, then aren't the both scum
:teach:

[kloud1516]

vote: Gorrad

Obviously, if you know so much about Michigan's large crime population, then you have either done enough research, or spent enough time in the state to easily have fallen prey to their shady activities.

[curiouskarmadog]

Well did it not start converstation?

wait, did you vote me with a dice vote purely to start conversation?

[Gorrad]

Word? Don't you know about the bird? Well, everyone knows that the bird is a word.

Aaaaaaand enough of that froggy bull (GET IT? IT'S A PUN!).

FoS: MBF

for being a traitor to one of your kin.

On the other hand, Michigan is an land populated entirely by criminals, as everyone knows, and criminals are used to not being trusted, as CW is not trusted by you, so not only can he not choose the wine in front of you, but your suspicion of him is founded on solid evidence.

UnFoS

.

TSQ is probably town by virtue of being totally unhelpful. He's like Flameaxe that way.

if everyone in Michigan are criminals, then aren't the both scum
:teach:

Psh, being a criminal == flavor != allignment.

[Gorrad]

vote: Gorrad

Obviously, if you know so much about Michigan's large crime population, then you have either done enough research, or spent enough time in the state to easily have fallen prey to their shady activities.

I spent time there primarily building up an immunity to iocane powder.

WIFOMOMGUS Vote: Kloud1516

[Haterade]

Hi I'm here!

[Gorrad]

Hi I'm here!

Hi say something with a point!

[Citizen Karne]

FoS: Gorrad

Consider that my 'random vote'.

[dahill1]

Hi I'm here!

Hi say something with a point!

seems kind of hypocritical since you haven't really said anything contentful as well

[Citizen Karne]

Hi I'm here!

Hi say something with a point!

seems kind of hypocritical since you haven't really said anything contentful as well

Agreed.

After having actually read,

FoS: Gorrad

for real now.

[scotmany12]

FoS: Gorrad

Consider that my 'random vote'.

Is there a reason why you FoS instead of vote for someone?

[Gorrad]

Hi I'm here!

Hi say something with a point!

seems kind of hypocritical since you haven't really said anything contentful as well

Perhaps not, but it's sure better than 'hi'.

[Citizen Karne]

FoS: Gorrad

Consider that my 'random vote'.

Is there a reason why you FoS instead of vote for someone?

I don't usually vote unless to hammer someone. I've random voted in the past, but all-in-all, I feel uncomfortable voting for someone before a hammer unless for a VERY good reason.

[MacavityLock]

I don't usually vote unless to hammer someone. I've random voted in the past, but all-in-all, I feel uncomfortable voting for someone before a hammer unless for a VERY good reason.

I guess that's part of your meta and all, but do you really feel like that's a pro-town way to play?

[Thestatusquo]

FoS: Gorrad

Consider that my 'random vote'.

Is there a reason why you FoS instead of vote for someone?

I don't usually vote unless to hammer someone. I've random voted in the past, but all-in-all, I feel uncomfortable voting for someone before a hammer unless for a VERY good reason.

Can you list for me three ways in which that action is anti town and three ways in which it is pro town?

[Gorrad]

Ok, TSQ, now you're just being ridiculous.

[mikeburnfire]

Kudos to TSQ for trying to start some real dialogue, but I feel as if he may be trying to frustrate players to make them look stupid.

I don't like how Rabbit picked up TSQ's demands and assisted in pushing them. TSQ is right to question him next.

Gorrad, I don't think TSQ is being ridiculous. He's probably been the most helpful so far. Unless there's some way for you to simply this scum hunt (like, you know, confesss?)

[Raging Rabbit]

Well did it not start converstation?

That doesn't make it helpful.

1) Why did you think my questions were so important that you had to make sure they were answered?

I like to question die rollers early on, and would've done so myself if you hadn't done that first. So I sorta added my voice to yours, and I find a die roller vote slightly better than a totally random one.

What made you think they were likely to be unanswered if you didn't vote to back them up?

Nothing. Could it draw more attention to the questions? Yes. Could it hurt? No.

How could you possibly learn anything from a player from me simply asking him questions. Why wouldn't you vote after he answered them, as opposed to before?

It's more the die roll than your question.

4) What do you think of gorrads play so far?

Useless. Then again, we're on page 2.

[Raging Rabbit]

Oh, and I'll be away 'till Saturday evening.

[crywolf20084]

Well did it not start converstation?

wait, did you vote me with a dice vote purely to start conversation?

Well not exactly but it did, did it not?

Hi I'm here!

… >_> Um…kay….
Better yet…

Hi I'm here!

Hi say something with a point!

seems kind of hypocritical since you haven't really said anything contentful as well

Agreed.

After having actually read,

FoS: Gorrad

for real now.

I dunno how you can have a strong FoS this early in the game. Gorrad as at least posted a couple times… I dunno. Not defending him or anything, so don’t get me wrong.

Ok, TSQ, now you're just being ridiculous.

haha I soooo agree with this.

TSQ, can I request that you stop this jack-ass like questioning of everything?


all done for now.