Mini 753 - Really Deep South (Game over!)

[elvis_knits]

Did none of you read the queue thread? Did none of you see charter and me joking?

Regardless, all the scum still need to claim ASAP.

[elvis_knits]

Vote: vollkan

for modding AA mafia, which was a great game!

unvote, vote malthusis

Joins rival bandwagon and pretends it's a random vote.

In all seriousness, malthusis has made scum tell. He joined the vollkan bandwagon while giving a random vote reason.

[Korts]

Do you think there are more serious reasons to vote on? If so, I'd love some examples.

[elvis_knits]

I'm not sure what you're asking me.

I am serious when I say that malthusis made a scum tell by joining a bandwagon while giving a random vote reason.

In my mind, malthusis is the only person who has done anything concretely scummy.

[charter]

elvis is a good wagon and I'd join if vollkan hadn't made an obvious scumreaction in his first post.

This is actually really true. I hadn't actually read the other random votes before laying the perfect trap.

unvote, vote vollkan

[vollkan]

OMGUS, OMGUS

Ahem...

I am scum.

Also, vote korts DIE!

vollkan-elvis pair, gogogo

At least when I make a OMGUS, I have the guts to vote.

also, you're obviously scared about my vote. Did I hit a nerve, scum?

I am terrified about your vote. Since you are scum, I know that your vote is only going to be used to advance your sinister agenda.

She's either scum or lying. Either way...

Weird, I can't read the end of that sentence. All I can see is an ellipsis. Maybe you could try again - "either way" what?

Vote: vollkan

for modding AA mafia, which was a great game!

So, you not only make NO comment about EK claiming scum, but you also join a lame alternative wagon. Why? Are you frightened of wagoning Korts?

[vollkan]

elvis is a good wagon and I'd join if vollkan hadn't made an obvious scumreaction in his first post.

This is actually really true. I hadn't actually read the other random votes before laying the perfect trap.

unvote, vote vollkan

Charter-Korts = obv scumteam

[charter]

Your OMGUS is showing.

[roflcopter]

unvote, vote: vollkan

[Raging Rabbit]

Vote Count 1

vollkan 5 (Korts, neko, malthusis, charter, roflcopter)
Korts 2 (Skander, vollkan)
roflcopter 1 (farside22)
elvis 1 (DGB)
malthusis 1 (elvis)

Not voting - ABR, CarnCarn

(the player listed first will always be the default deadline lynch)

[Korts]

I'm not sure what you're asking me.

I am serious when I say that malthusis made a scum tell by joining a bandwagon while giving a random vote reason.

In my mind, malthusis is the only person who has done anything concretely scummy.

If you think voting on a "random vote reason" is scummy, it follows that you also think there are better reasons than joke ones for voting. My question was whether this reflects your thoughts, and if so, examples would be dandy.

At least when I make a OMGUS, I have the guts to vote.

elvis didn't give reason to vote me other than "DIE", so I assumed I was on the right track about you. Ever heard of Chainsaw defense?

BTW I see you did the same to charter as I did to elvis. If you think my action was scummy, what is your justification?

[Skander]

What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.

And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?

[elvis_knits]

I'm not sure what you're asking me.

I am serious when I say that malthusis made a scum tell by joining a bandwagon while giving a random vote reason.

In my mind, malthusis is the only person who has done anything concretely scummy.

If you think voting on a "random vote reason" is scummy, it follows that you also think there are better reasons than joke ones for voting. My question was whether this reflects your thoughts, and if so, examples would be dandy.

I don't think voting with a random vote reason is scummy. Joke voting, random voting... that doesn't bother me. But voting with a random vote reason ONTO A BANDWAGON is scummy.

It's like he's ignoring the fact that he's joining a bandwagon. He's hopping on the bandwagon but trying not to take responsibility for it. So that later, if we look at the people on the bandwagon he can say his was not a bandwagon vote, but just a random. But I don't think you can honestly call it a random vote when your vote is part of a bandwagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Elvis should know...

unvote, vote: malthusis

[Korts]

vote: vollkan

He was scum in Adel's deep south; this is a deep south setup; therefor he is scum in this game as well QED.

Come on
Obviously this is a different game.
Perhaps this will change your mind:

Vote: Korts

This is the initial post, Skander. See how he threatens me with his vote to help me "change my mind"? The obviously false evidence I presented should be no immediate threat to him, yet he defends himself like being scum in a previous game is a serious case against him.

[charter]

What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.

And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?

Yeah, he is perceiving nothing as attacks. Comes from scum a LOT. My vote is definately serious.

@Elvis, I dunno, I don't really see it like that. He was what, the third or fourth vote? If he'd been the fifth or sixth I'd definately agree, but I don't see how what he did is really that scummy.

[elvis_knits]

Charter, both these things were posted before malthusis voted:

vollkan-elvis pair, gogogo

vote:vollkan

We need a good rival bandwagon here methinks.

There may not have been 5-6 votes on vollkan at the moment, but there was a general consensus that a bandwagon was forming.

[farside22]

God you people are nuts. I love you all.
Elvis obvious joke comments made if you read the queue line at all.
DGB's weird vote on malth saying EK should know. Well how about sharing with the rest of the class.
Skanders: Welcome to the chaos. Your reaction is interesting. So interesting that if volk does flip scum I would vote you next.
I don't like knee jerk reactions.

[elvis_knits]

Elvis should know...

unvote, vote: malthusis

I think DGB is saying malth is my scum buddy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Korts

Leave Volkan alone, he has done you no harm.

[neko2086]

Hmm. EK, do you not see any possible merit in a random bandwagon?

[elvis_knits]

Hmm. EK, do you not see any possible merit in a random bandwagon?

I see the merit of random bandwagons... gets things moving and possibly see people acting oddly in reaction to it.

But the reason I don't like mal's vote has nothing to do with random bandwagoning. If mal had posted "bandwagon go! vote vollkan," I wouldn't have thought that was suspicious. It's that he's joining the bandwagon while making no mention of it, and giving a random vote reason as if vollkan has no votes on him. He's ignoring the implication of his vote, and joining a bandwagon without acknowledging it.

[Skander]

I now understand the Volkan argument but I'm happier with Malthusis. I dislike how fast the volkan wagon grew.

Unvote, Vote Malthusis

Elvis is right, scum have particular voting habits.

When they're bussing a scumbuddy they make it well known that they were voting them but when they vote innocent townies they tend to want an out or plausible deniability so that when the lynch goes awry it isn't traced back to them.

Malthusis voting Volkan randomly after the "rival bandwagon" comment means it's doubtful that it really is random.

God you people are nuts. I love you all.
Elvis obvious joke comments made if you read the queue line at all.
DGB's weird vote on malth saying EK should know. Well how about sharing with the rest of the class.
Skanders: Welcome to the chaos. Your reaction is interesting. So interesting that if volk does flip scum I would vote you next.
I don't like knee jerk reactions.

Thanks for the welcome.

I don't like the word "interesting". It is very easy to hide behind. What exactly about my reaction do you find so interesting that you would me vote me if volk flips scum?


I also want clarification on DGB's EK comment.

[farside22]

What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.

And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?

The above is a weird reaction to BW votes. I see people who panic with votes that are being voted against but not something like this. It's like a protective action on someone for no reason.
I don't know what site you played at here but random BW in a speed game is normal.

[Skander]

What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.

And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?

The above is a weird reaction to BW votes. I see people who panic with votes that are being voted against but not something like this. It's like a protective action on someone for no reason.
I don't know what site you played at here but random BW in a speed game is normal.

Well that would explain it. In the site I play on (MTGSalvation) random BW's are heavily frowned upon. I rarely see anyone get to closer than L-4 or L-3 without someone commenting about a wagon in the random stage and pointing fingers.