Freeko - 3 (BSG, Raider, tubby)
BSG - 1 (freeko)
Juls - 1 (Vi)
Rhinox - 1 (Korts)
Not Voting - 4 (afatchic, Rhinox, Juls, TonyMontana)
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is in 4 Days, in case you happen to be wondering.
Confirmed neighbor I will give you. What is not confirmed is if you are town or scum. It has already been brought that you both could be scum, town or one of each. Reguardless this lynch is not based on guessing that you are scum or trying to outguess the mod. Or I should say atleast I am not voting you for those reasons. Yes I was thinking that but you have shown no intention for helping out town and instead you just want to lynch anyone as long as it is not yourself.freeko wrote:You know what. Aside from me wanting to be lynched and out of this game so I can join another one elsewhere. What possible evidence could you have to substantiate this?but i do think freeko scum.
Can you counter my claim? That would be a quick way to see that I am lying.
I am full well convinced that its the scum plan to lynch me today. Then when its (most likely lylo) tomorrow Vi gets it, becuase I wasnt scum so their speculation would simply be that Vi obviously was the scum.. though I am pretty certain that neither of us are. I can only speak for myself on that one.
So in the end you are saying that you are going to lynch a confirmed neighbor with no counter or reason to even think that I am scum. Except thats the scum plan for the day so you are just going to stick to it.
Outstanding.
to acknowledge i read it.raider8169 wrote:Care to add anything to this? What was the point in just posting that?tubby216 wrote:yup
This is the problem. Lynching me when you know I am MUCH more likely to be town than scum, is absolutely retarded. Its also the scum's plan to win the game. This I am certain of.It would not be just because freeko was lynched Vi is next.
Umm.. right. For the record I am the ONLY person to be actively playing this game the entire time so far. Excuse me for reaching a bit when less than half the people in the game actually btoher to play it.Yes I was thinking that but you have shown no intention for helping out town and instead you just want to lynch anyone as long as it is not yourself.
note the bolded part, throwing in town win condition part seems fake. kinda like "gee my win condition is other than town so i better throw this in there". if you are not scum then at best you are survivor esq.freeko wrote:Raider, my mason partner gave ME away actually. We are actually what looks to be 3rd party masons. Our victory condition (at least mine) is simply to get to the town alive on day 6.I also have the town win condition of winning when all scum are found.It is unknown to me what PK's alignment is.
Personally, I dont see how my role is a "power" role. The only thing I have is the ability to talk with someone else during the night phase.
appeal to emotion wether making someone fell bad for you or callin them a moron is bad mmmkay?freeko wrote:Then how stupid will you look after I am dead either by lynch or NK? Its not like I can really hide anything at this point.Occam wrote:I don't think you're missing something, I think it's a bullcrap claim.
do you see what you did there?? more appeal/bullyingfreeko wrote:yeah, I dont get it. You couldunvotejust like that.
but then you coudnt do thisvote: monkey man
I dont get it how you could POSSIBLY keep your vote on a claimed mason. I certainly dont see anyone trying to counter my claims or disputing my alignment. As much as I dont horribly care for Occam, you gotta go.
its a wifom trap, i don't like this play either.freeko wrote:I think it was 7 to lynch, but his role only required 6 (regular number -1). When I die tonight, at least promise me you take korts or RS to visit me ASAP. they cant be team players when they run off and make decsicions without our consent.
so you blame your pickle on a poor partner? bad form just because you were tryin to set up a gambit in wich you clear both yourself and your partner and he diddn't play along you get all bitter? {reader notes i still need to read vi/pk and will do so when this is complete}freeko wrote:FFS.. I will say this one last time. Its a flavor of my role , that I have coem to realize is misinterpreted (by me) to be an alternate win condition. It says that I am only interested in getting to the town in the flavor, and the rules state that I get to the town at the beginning of day 6.
As for my partnber BEFORE Vi came in.. I think Vi put it about right that he was retarded... and inactive. Also the game started right when the site crashed and was moved to a new host, so that kinda hindered things slightly.
I have already said EVERYTHING in my role pm now without directly quoting it. And I made it clear already that it is said that I am to be wary of him. Again not helped by the brainless retard outburst from PK that caused this whole thing to start.
If you want even more, too bad. I cant give it to you because that would mean a verbatim quote of my role pm, I cannot do that.
youwere joking with this right but more to the point its the start or around the start of all this sheep talk that has been goin about for most of the day and detracting from actual scum hunting, wich freeko continue's to feed through countless attacks on korts and others. basically it goes like this. blah blah blah sheep this sheep that, korts is scum this guy is scum sheep this sheep that.freeko wrote:Oh, that im a sheep weaksauce? Yeah great. Thats a load of crap. I fail to see how being a sheep has any bearing on the game at all. Especially with how it relates to the supposed night watch that Korts did on Night 1.
Why not tell us what your role is?
well ok how about this then.freeko wrote:
I will say this. I no longer have any desire to play this game. I will replace out if I last the day. I dont want to waste my time arguing with tubby over whats more retarded, his play or his self.
Clever...tubby 639 wrote:@Rhinox,
i am voting freeko because i believe his wild posting and accusation are a smoke scree very anti town, I have seen nothing of value come from him yet, if he is town is fail, but i believe him clever scum
freeko... Realize that one of the few reasons people think you're more likely Town is because I said so... judging your reaction in a private and currently unverifiable QuickTopic... and I've been known to be very wrong before.freeko 654 wrote:This is the problem.Lynching me when you know I am MUCH more likely to be town than scum,is absolutely retarded. Its also the scum's plan to win the game. This I am certain of.
Ok Cool. Thanks for clearing that up.TonyMontana wrote:Because of my epiphany about there might being someone with an anti-sheep agenda.raider8169 wrote:Ok Im confused by this. Why would you joke about that?TonyMontana wrote:I wasn't. The part of taking it back was a joke.Rhinox wrote:@Tony: what was your purpose for fake claiming sheep?
ok... I was only asking because it seemed you wanted to lynch freeko more out of utility, and not because you thought he was scum. But I also see you laid out a nice case in 655.tubby216 wrote:@Rhinox,
i am voting freeko because i believe his wild posting and accusation are a smoke scree very anti town, I have seen nothing of value come from him yet, if he is town is fail, but i believe him clever scum
Replace out now. I'm sick of your attitude, and your unhelpfulness. And comments like this really piss me off:freeko wrote:I will say this. I no longer have any desire to play this game. I will replace out if I last the day. I dont want to waste my time arguing with tubby over whats more retarded, his play or his self.
Who the fuck do you think you are?freeko wrote:For the record I am the ONLY person to be actively playing this game the entire time so far.
We DON'T know you are any more likely to be town than scum, let alone MUCH more likely. Your insistance doesn't prove anything.freeko wrote:This is the problem. Lynching me when you know I am MUCH more likely to be town than scum, is absolutely retarded.
How would you be certain of the scum's plan unless you were scum yourself?freeko wrote:Its also the scum's plan to win the game. This I am certain of.
yeah... that makes a mass claim fair for everybody. I want a massclaim to be beneficial to the town, and detrimental to the scum. Thats why I want players I think are scummiest to claim first. One way of doing that is through normal playing and voting someone to L-1. Rinse and repeat if it is a believeable claim.Vi wrote:Setting 2 on the Massclaim Machine is "random", which takes care of this reservation. Dice tags are wonderful for this.
pretty sure we're just talking hypothetically right now.raider wrote:How did the whole mass claim thing start? I know I said something about it to freeko but I never said we should mass claim. I just meant that at the rate we are going it is going to turn into that before long.
Didn't random vote (personal pet peeve of mine). expressed annoyance over the random choice, and said we could find something better to talk about, without suggesting an alternative to talk about. This post basically contains no real content at all - LT was trying to stop 1 line of conversation (preventing conversation is anti-town), while not suggesting anything better to talk about.I find it really annoying that you guys are making so much of a fuss about a clearly random, at least for now, choice. Even though it is day one, surely we can find something better to talk about.
Another contentless post.@Monkeyman: You seem to be confusing me with Rogue Shenanigans. Maybe.
Had to think about the broken quote tags. I believe the LT quote in this post was originally lots in the site crash, and I think the rest of the post was MM's response. LT is clearly playing both sides here. On one hand, he says he thinks the choice was random. Then he uses WIFOM reasoning to explain why scum wouldn't make the choice. Finally, he says he's worried about someone defending the choice - which is a way of throwing suspicion both at RS for making the choice, as well as anybody who expressed that the choice didn't matter and didn't find RS scummy for making it.Lunar_Tick wrote:MonkeyMan576 wrote:Your whole post and vote assumes that the choice has any kind of bearing on the game. You are very far from being sure of your claims, at least not close enough to make any kind of conclusion and subsequently vote on it. And if you are sure of your claims (and it seems that you are), then you are highly suspicious.Lunar_Tick wrote:@Monkeyman: Defending the move is just as bad as doing it, if not more so. Like Prom King said, it's unlikely scum would actully choose a path this early, but having someone defend the tactics worries me.
Also I don't like the way you use the word "tactics" in your post, when there was clearly no under-hand mafia scheme but rather a random choice.
I still assume this was a joke. But, its not pro-town, helpful, or content of any kind.Lunar_Tick wrote:Or maybe the mod told me.MonkeyMan576 wrote:The only way you could know if there was a scheme or if it was random choice is if you were scum, a townie would not know the difference.
Post 66 was LT's post #3. i'm assuming raider was asking MM to justify his vote. This comment by LT might be a bit of paranoia - LT seems to think that raider thought post 66 was a good reason for a vote, when its clear (at least to me) that raider was questioning MM because 66 wasn't a good reason and he wanted to know if MM had any better reasons.Lunar_Tick wrote:What reason is there in post 66?raider8169 wrote: It there more of a reason for your [MM's] vote then post 66?
BSG wrote:@Korts
I asked, because the claim has changed a lot. First they were masons, then when Vi comes in, it changed to neighbours. Nothing much, as this could be an honest mistake. But then I thought back of MM's role which was cleric. According to the mod, this meant that he was a doc. My role has also a completely different name than usual. This is most likely the case with everybody.
What I do find odd is that one of them claimed merchant, while the other claimed merchant companion, so I'm not sold yet on either claim.
Newbie 644 - tubby-scum, Vi-town (tubby replaced in for the best Doc claim ever)tubby216 664 wrote:with out looking i'd say three. but i need to check
That's the basic idea.Juls 665 wrote:I have a quick question though...I think I missed what you guys were talking about with the massclaim (in the way someone misses an inside joke, not that I didn't see it). Are you guys saying that if there is a massclaim you want to just do a random dice roll (like say from 1 to 12) and the person assigned the rolled number claims?
I ask because I also think I have a pretty good meta on Vi based on past games:tubby216 wrote:games i was in with vi
mini 669- vi=scum, tubby=townie result =mod abandoned
newbie 664 vi=townie,tubby=scum result mod cancelled due to wreckage {mis comunication with replacements}
xyl's relative chaos vi= townie, tubby =scum group 2 result scum group 1 {i made it to end game then botched it}
you do relize you can read players in isolation right??freeko wrote:Post times tell all. His first of the day was an hour beforehand. I actually yanked the wrong one it should have been the one at 8:56. Nonetheless that was the first post and was a little more than an hour before the riveting evidence that tubby produced in the evaluation of Vi being town. Though I think that whole "I'm gonna look at Vi/Pk now" is shenanigans. Even if he started when he made the first post at 8:53, thats still an hour (which i noted in the beginning) to re-read the entirety of the thread and then go back and look for all the past games.
Between the riveting conclusion that was reached, and the lack of ANY presentation of .. well anything.. I think its safe to assume it was a smoke and mirrors act or skim-job.
ty;drfreeko wrote:I actually didnt know you (or anyone) could do that. I learned something just now. Though what good is reading someons posts if you dont also see the context with which they are made? Seems like a great way to make an excuse for misinterpreting something.
Like where you point out my response to korts and calilng it a wifom trap. Completely wrong. I was full well convinced that either myself or PK were going to be nk'd at night at that point. I now realized what the scum plan would most likely be after that. Suffice to say you are fitting into what I believe that plan to be.
My endgoal? Scumhunt, since 5(maybe up to 7) of us actually played for the first 3 weeks of the game day, seems like there is a little catching up to do. So what If I make myself into something of a "red herring" I am done with this game no matter what. More on that later.
Lastly, I dont know.
I do know that this game is a waste of my time. So I dont even care if I am lynched at this point. Im leaving the game irreguardless of how the game day plays out. Since I personally am beyond frustrated with this game and its lack of play. I will at least play the game day out. Its god damn pathetic that the scum will most likely win this game because there will be like 4 posts made by the entirety of the game after I am gone. I even just used the silly search to realize how many people in this game have done absolutely NOTHING in the game.