Vi, I've got to give you props. You're pulling out all the stops this time...
Vi wrote:Uh, isn't this obvious? I think you were trying to push an explanation onto BSG. That's --scummy--.
I wasn't trying to push an explanation on her, I said why I thought flavor fishing was scummy, and the unfortunate part was that I gave her an out and gave her the answer for why a townie would flavor fish. First I should have asked her why she wanted to know the flavor, waited for her answer, and then explained why I felt flavor fishing was scummy. All I can see is that it was a mistake for me to make while scumhunting, as it pretty much makes any discussion about why BSG was flavor fishing worthless now, but I don't see how it makes me scummy... Tying into the next point...
Vi wrote:Asking for a more full claim from someone whose existing claim is highly dubious is scummy?
Yes, absolutely, especially in theme games. In theme games, when scum don't have safe claims to make, scum need all the help they can get flavor wise in order to make a convincing fake claim. I'll use Meerkat Manor Mafia as my evidence for that, as someone recognized a scum day 1 due to flavor fishing. You replaced into that game didn't you? go back and read through late D1 I think, after mafiamann claimed.
Vi wrote:Suggesting that my suspicion on you is even partly grounded in personal bias is, like, a totally awesome straw man and mildly insulting.
Its only a straw man if it was the only thing I was using to try to deflect your attacks. In fact, this comment by you is just as much of a strawman meant to deflect my defenses.
Vi wrote:I'd random vote you, sure (though it would be because you never answered the question about the puppy in the last game),
Actually, remember when I said I had a post prepared at work, but forgot to email it to myself to finish it up at home? the answer was in that post... The game was starting to get serious, and I knew I found scum (Darox), so I never got around to answering the question again.
And by the way, the puppy is a wonderful, 80lb lapdog, rambunctious, full of energy, and slightly psychotic, but thats probably why I love her. Shes starting to spend more of her time being a couch potato though, which it is nice to have a little down time, but she would still love to play 24-7, if I could keep up anyways.
Vi wrote:but I'm more interested in finding scum than settling personal vendettas.
hmmmm... so you DO have a vendetta with me then
Vi wrote:Wait, so you're posting these walls on the job? Quick, what do you do for a living? *gets ready to take notes* [/onlyhalfjoking]
Haha yeah, ever since I first started playing, I'd say 90% of my posts are from work. I'm an engineer, bottom of the totem pole right now... all I do is analyze data. BUT, I get internet access, and an isolated
cell
office to work in, so I post in between data sets in order to break up the day. "Incidental internet use is allowed, so long as everyone gets their work done" <<< official company policy
. unfortunately, the project I've been working on since last january (Jan 2008) just got canceled this morning, so I might have to start finding a new job... that might mean less time to post
(and no, the project being cancelled had nothing to do with me not getting my work done
)
Vi wrote:I'm pretty sure there's a difference between a contradiction of ideas of who's Town and fabricating flavor to tack onto existing claims that twists them into being false.
Oh... you mean kinda like raider did with the merchant backstabber scenario?
Vi wrote:Joining every wagon in that Newbie game doesn't count as being all over the place?
The point is, you did 1 at a time. There was a clear distinction when you stopped attacking 1 person, and starting attacking someone else.
Vi wrote:I admit I have no idea what this means, but something tells me I don't want to know.
FFS = For F*ck sake... at least, thats what I got out of the context freeko used it. I've seen it before, but never knew what it meant until this game.
Vi wrote:And here I'd have thought you knew me better by now. I would jokingly talk like I'm bandwagoning someone, but I wouldn't vote someone unless I were serious about it (unless I unvoted in the same post).
Well, I was specifically talking about the seriousness of you wanting a whole big shiny wagon, and not just your vote in particular. I like letting people scum hunt in their own ways (refer to Days 3, 4, and endgame discussion of
Newbie 696 for some good reasons why I feel this way...). You wanted a wagon on Korts, and I wanted a better read on korts, thus my jumping on the wagon.
Vi wrote:Really... Me? Am I the "him" in question? I don't remember ever saying that.
Uhh... So if my vote on Korts isn't causing you to suspect me right now, then what is? And if it is my vote on korts, then whats scummy about it that can't be construed as opportunism? The supposed backpedaling? Its only backpedaling if you think I'm scum and know korts is town and... wait for it... opportunistically jumped on korts' wagon, before backpedaling away from it...