Mafia 89: Revenge (Game Over)

[popsofctown]

Mafiaplayer: who do you think should be lynched today?

Votecount:
Lowell - 4 (armlx, Shanba, Azrael001, kuribo)
Mafiaplayer - 3 (Yosarian2, mykonian, CF Riot)
Light-kun - 3 (Vi, popsofctown, Knight of Cydonia)
kuribo - 1 (Lowell)
armlx - 1 (Light-kun)
Not voting: Alabaska J, The Central Scrutinizer, Sun Tzu, BridgesAndBaloons, Mafiaplayer

With 17 alive, it's 9 to lynch.

[Light-kun]

I'm willing to bet my left nut L-K and Lowell are scum together.

unvote; Vote Light-kun

for trying to justify his chainsawing by repeating his chainsawing.

I will be taking your left nut, thank you. It will go up on my shelf, and I will laugh at it everyday in remembrance of the loss for town yet a win for in my bet.

Hm...might be bittersweet...
might be bittergrotesque...
I'll let the philosopher's decide.

Mafiaplayer: who do you think should be lynched today?

Best question ever.

[kuribo]

I note that I was just told that I was "blocked", not "blocked by a roleblocker", so I could have been blocked by an inventor for all I know.

oh wow

[Mafiaplayer]

Looking over this portion...

Unvote, Vote:CFRiot

CF Riot seems to be intentionally lying about statistics (for every scum roleblocker I've seen 2 town roleblockers).

[kuribo]

in which MP jumps on a bandwagon to no one's surprise

[Shanba]

Honestly, I don't feel that Lowell bussed MM. To me, it reads like a hop on an easy wagon, and an unvote when MM claims power role because you don't lynch power roles. I believe Lowell is scum, but not aligned with MM. Actually, I reckon it's fairly likely him and MP are scum together.

[mykonian]

people, to be honest, I'm loosing interest in this game. I think I've got a feeling about some players, and I think some players should be gone before lylo. I think I have been clear that a probable scum roleblocker shouldn't be given a night action. I stand by that point.

I think some people here are quite useless (including me), and part of that is because we keep going over the same things again and again. I don't think I support a LK lynch yet: he is more protown then some other players. A lowell lynch can hardly hurt (so if it is a mislynch, we don't lose too much), and the same counts for MP. But also for me, it will be close to a random lynch, just because you can barely have a read at them. The fact that you also lose little if they get lynched makes that it can be protown. When there is some suspicion on such players, I think a lynch isn't that bad.

When the day started, we wanted discussion, not too fast a lynch. MP should be vigged just for that purpose. Now discussion is stalling, people are getting bored and the game slows down. I think a MP lynch is just by numbers the best action, and what keep us from doing it? We have had our discussion, we have got out of this day what was possible, but I think we shouldn't let it take long to make a decision.

[popsofctown]

Quit playing jury captain. People have made very good cases for why we should leave MP to the vig

[mykonian]

Quit playing jury captain. People have made very good cases for why we should leave MP to the vig

I think I have also pointed out why I would like to lynch him, what advantages this gives us, in case he is scum. I only state that again. Those very good cases were two things as I remember: to get discussion over the lynch (we got our discussion, it is only dieing on the moment, I think), and control over the vig (he can't do anything different then killing MP).

I think playwise, it is not smart to keep a possible scum-roleblocker in the night. I also think we should lynch the person we think most likely scum, as you can start thinking from that again. I think a vig-kill is valuable even if MP is lynched.

That's what I think, and that's what I say. It is like you don't want me to say this.

[Yosarian2]

Quit playing jury captain. People have made very good bad cases for why we should leave MP to the vig

Not really. People have made cases, but I can't call any of them "very good".

Either we think he's scum, or we don't. If he's scum, we get the most information from lynching him today. If he's not, we don't want him lynched or vigged, especally since he claimed power role. I still say "let the vig take care of it" is not a good solution to anything.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I think he is likely scum, especially with that jump on the CFR burgeoning wagon there,
but I would infinitely prefer that Lowell is made to dance the hemp fandango first. I'd be willing to support an MP lynch tomorrow if those on the MP wagon right now move to Lowell and lynch him today, then MP tomorrow, basically.

[mykonian]

I think he is likely scum, especially with that jump on the CFR burgeoning wagon there,
but I would infinitely prefer that Lowell is made to dance the hemp fandango first. I'd be willing to support an MP lynch tomorrow if those on the MP wagon right now move to Lowell and lynch him today, then MP tomorrow, basically.

nobody talks about MP, and MP doesn't talk, he was scummy, he is still scummy. And you want to lynch lowell.

something isn't right there.

but I must say, I wouldn't mind them both to be gone soon.

[Knight of Cydonia]

So I'm not allowed to say it, but you are, mykonian?
The only difference is I say it openly - I'm willing to lynch my second suspect tomorrow,
if the MP wagon helps me lynch my top suspect today.

[Light-kun]

As the "Jury Captain" has said, people are getting bored with this game. Myself included. So, the best option for me is to force participation via short responses. (Actually, I am not bored with this game, I just feel discussion is stalled, but that will pick up soon, I hope.)

Looking over this portion...

Unvote, Vote:CFRiot

CF Riot seems to be intentionally lying about statistics (for every scum roleblocker I've seen 2 town roleblockers).

I have never seen any statistics, and it isn't clear in your statement who is making these statistics claims, you or cfR. Nevertheless, your vote seems weak and the wagon skip leaves no room for inquiry against cfR. Yes, I want him lynched, but only with people who see him for scum, not because you disagree over statistics alone. You need more proof then that.

In short: Bad MP. *Hits with Death Note.*

Quit playing jury captain. People have made very good bad cases for why we should leave MP to the vig

Not really. People have made cases, but I can't call any of them "very good".

Either we think he's scum, or we don't. If he's scum, we get the most information from lynching him today. If he's not, we don't want him lynched or vigged, especally since he claimed power role. I still say "let the vig take care of it" is not a good solution to anything.

Excellent Yos! Prevented me from needing to respond directly to pops.

*Writes down the names of all of Yosarian2's enemies. They die now, yay!

I think he is likely scum, especially with that jump on the CFR burgeoning wagon there,
but I would infinitely prefer that Lowell is made to dance the hemp fandango first. I'd be willing to support an MP lynch tomorrow if those on the MP wagon right now move to Lowell and lynch him today, then MP tomorrow, basically.

*Hits with Death Note*
Bad Knight! We are not congress. We do not make political favors which will lead to corruption.
And how can you say MP is likely scum and still vote for Lowell without providing strong logic on why MP tomorrow>today?

[mykonian]

So I'm not allowed to say it, but you are, mykonian?
The only difference is I say it openly - I'm willing to lynch my second suspect tomorrow,
if the MP wagon helps me lynch my top suspect today.

I'm sorry, but "trading" votes is, well, weird. I don't know if I agree with that thought in a mafia game...

[Knight of Cydonia]

MP tomorrow because. Simple as. Lowell is scummier IMHO, has been scummier consistently throughout the game, and therefore should be lynched before we move on to any quarrels about MP's roleblocker claim, how it fails in so many ways, and whether or not his actions after it were scummy (Hint - answer is "Yes")

[CF Riot]

I bargain with votes in mafia all the time. Tis fun.

Unvote. Vote: Light

cause he's the closest to being lynched out of all the people I'd vote for.

Although MP's vote is crappy, it's not a wagon vote. I don't know why three people have referred to it as one. He's the only one voting me, and I think the only other person who's been suspicious of me at all today is Light. But whatever, yeah crappy vote.

In 1134 Yos thought about doing one of those things where you edit what someone wrote then put "fixed" below the quote, but he decided against it. You forgot to erase where you wrote "bad" though. Lolz.

Myk: Any answer for me yet? Who's the second best lynch for you? Possibly paired with MP or independent of him? Why?

Shanba: Convince me to vote Lowell. Do you think LK is scum? Why/why not? Who else do you think is scum? Did you see Gran Torino? If yes, did you like it?

[Yosarian2]

In 1134 Yos thought about doing one of those things where you edit what someone wrote then put "fixed" below the quote, but he decided against it. You forgot to erase where you wrote "bad" though. Lolz.

LOL

Yes, yes I was. I was going to cross out "good", put in "bad", and then say fixed, then I decided to answer it seriously instead. Very observent.

[mykonian]

Myk: Any answer for me yet? Who's the second best lynch for you? Possibly paired with MP or independent of him? Why?

That's the wrong question This one I actually answered the previous time, I have stated what I think of a few players somewhere in the last post. However, you still need to get from me why I thought LK's actions around Azraels massclaim-question weird. You'll get them. Just not when it is midnight

[BridgesAndBaloons]

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[mykonian]

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someone had too show how towny he was...

[Mafiaplayer]

Why would someone make a contentless post like "."?
Doesn't seem like a scum tell, but a nulltell, but it still looks odd.

[CF Riot]

Eh.

[armlx]

I like how Lowell is now trying to lean away from an MP lynch.

Honestly, I'll vote LK if I can't get a Lowell lynch, mainly from the chainsawing.

Lol at MP's vote.

[Vi]

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This post is IMO.

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kuribo

and Lowell: Mafiaplayer. Suspicious or no? Best lynch or no?

Why do you imply I need prodding? My prods and votecounts are up to date.

I was being facetious, although I guess that was a bad idea since many times when I say that I'm being quite serious.

And there's really not that much else to say. I'm warming to the idea of taking out

The Central Scrutinizer

Mafiaplayer now and letting the Vig go for broke.

Unvote: Light-kun

Vote: Mafiaplayer

(L-6)

And as always, there's a counterpoint to that.

Actually, I am not bored with this game, I just feel discussion is stalled,

I really must apologize, but I have lost interest in this game, so it isn't high on my attention list.