Xdaamno (6) - Lynx the Antithesis, Danchaofan, Panzerjager, Charter, Lowell, Master Ruck
Lynx the Antithesis (2) - Darox, Tubby216
Artem (1) - BSG
Darox (1) - Artifex
Lowell (1) - Artem
Charter (1) - Xdaamno
Good, if not brief, reasons;Lynx The Antithesis wrote:Also,Unvote, Vote:Xdaamno
He hastily jumped on the Artem wagon with no analysis or evidence of his own(For the hammer vote nonetheless). He's contributed nothing to the active scumhunting and given no case for any of his votes. Just shown little activity, but is still obviously here.
Self explanatory, thanks to BSG, and Lowell sums it up surprisingly well with his pbp post. I feel confidant with my post.Xdaamno wrote:I admit many of my posts have been speculation. Distancing myself from 'the main scum hunt' is something I do actively.
This is a VERY weak vote. Add in the 'I want to please the town' clause and it becomes extremely scummy. This is actually making me question whether my vote needs to be on Xdaamo or you.Master Ruck wrote:I figured I'd take the time to look at Xd's posts to see if this wagon is unfounded or not. After doing so, I don't have any reason to disagree with it. There was a large week-long gap between posts, the first after the gap saying he'll post more and the post after being the would-be lynch. Arguments have been made against him and he has either barely defended, poorly defended or not bothered to defend against by saying he has lost interest.
I'm gonnaVote: Xdaamnoand make itverythat this puts Xd at L-1, so nobody else vote him yet. I'll unvote if people want to feel more safe and discuss more, but as far as I can see with his lack of scum hunting and the potential hammer, discussion is essentially over and unless anyone disagrees Xda should claim.
So you don't like the fact that I'm naturally skeptical to a claim that makes you a weapon to any night actions? Especially when it spawns from the player's first post in the game? I believe others shared a similar reaction.tubby216 wrote:
lynx,- I really don’t like your posts at all nor do I like your reaction to Darox’s claim, I also don’t like your disagreement with xdaamo, pressure votes are good anytime of the game not solely at the beginning.
So I am going to conclude this with
vote lynx
no quite simply put i diddn't like your reaction to anything and it all seem scum motivated to me. quite actually it was the first time while reading a game thread that i had anything jump out at me like thatLynx The Antithesis wrote:So you don't like the fact that I'm naturally skeptical to a claim that makes you a weapon to any night actions? Especially when it spawns from the player's first post in the game? I believe others shared a similar reaction.tubby216 wrote:
lynx,- I really don’t like your posts at all nor do I like your reaction to Darox’s claim, I also don’t like your disagreement with xdaamo, pressure votes are good anytime of the game not solely at the beginning.
So I am going to conclude this with
vote lynx
You don't like my disagreement with a scummy Xdaamno who hasn't defended himself too well to the reason he placed any of his votes. If you're referring specifically to the pressure vote aspect, then that has no correlation on my town alignment. My views about how to utilize a pressure vote are mafia and simply a null tell.
Waiting to hear Xdaamno's response tomorrow. But I've already stated my feelings on him. Nothing's changed even with his reponses to my questions so far. We'll see what he has to say tommorow.
Ruck, weall have those moments where we feel we're not playing great, but you're really doing fine. You've been trying to play to your best and that's all everybody can ask for(Incredibly cliche) Anyway you're new don't worry about it keep playing and you'll improve. We need all the active posters we can get.
For the second time, could you please provide a reference?charter wrote:Not bull.Xdaamno wrote:Bull. Can you show me a point you (or anyone else) have made that I have failed to show does not make me scum?charter wrote:I think they're poor and indicative of scum. The fact that his wagon didn't balloon after an attempted speedhammer also makes me question why more people aren't voting him.
The answers were allcharter wrote:I ask you legitamate questions, and you blow them off and OMGUS vote me. It's not even OMGUS, it's just a TERRIBLE vote you throw down. NONE of the answers there were remotely obvious. What is obvious is that your overreacting and refusal to answer is incredibly scummy of you. When you finally did give answers, they were bad.Xdaamno wrote:That's unusual. Interrogating, when the answers to all of those questions should be obvious to anyone who's done a moment's thought. This is a real, general "trying to look helpful" scum vibe.charter wrote:Xdaamo, why did you say Artem would be a good lynch, then you were "saved" when her lynch didn't actually occur? Why the backpedal? And why did you say you reread when you voted, and then in your next post say you need to reread? And how did you miss it being L-1 with a votecount at the top of the page?
Unvote, Vote: charter
You've never explained why you hammered and wanted an Artem lynch, then flipped around once Artem claimed.
Either that, or I wascharter wrote:Also,Adding reasosn for your vote after it's way too late, in an attempt to make it seem like you didn't mean the lynch. In your hammer post, you clearly did want the lynch then. The story changing and flip flopping is scummy.Xdaamno wrote:Uh, I don't think so, especially because my Artem vote was also for pressure.BSG wrote:As already mentioned, there was a VC on top of the page where you 'voted' Artem. Strange that you didn't pay much attention towards the VC when you wanted to apply pressure, not?
As I said above, your logic is circular. If I was scum I would be doing as you said (which is an implausable scenario, but I'll be generous and say it's neutral) and if I was town I'd be doing what I had said. What makes one scenario more likely than the other? It's certainly not because you have a kink for stating fallacy as fact.charter wrote:Scummy as well.Xdaamo wrote:I admit many of my posts have been speculation. Distancing myself from 'the main scum hunt' is something I do actively.
You try and change your reasons some more again later. None of the excuses fly because you said you wanted an Artem lynch. Not Artem pressure, not because you were suspicious of Artem.
As I mentioned, this post is very fallacious. We should not agree with a wagon because we have no reason to disagree with it. Please provide references for my 'poorly defended' (or etc) points, then explain why that makes me scum rather than a poor scumhunter.Master Ruck wrote:I figured I'd take the time to look at Xd's posts to see if this wagon is unfounded or not.After doing so, I don't have any reason to disagree with it.There was a large week-long gap between posts, the first after the gap saying he'll post more and the post after being the would-be lynch. Arguments have been made against him and he has either barely defended, poorly defended or not bothered to defend against by saying he has lost interest.
This is a very,Master Ruck wrote:I'm gonnaVote: Xdaamnoand make itverythat this puts Xd at L-1, so nobody else vote him yet. I'll unvote if people want to feel more safe and discuss more, but as far as I can see with his lack of scum hunting and the potential hammer,discussion is essentiallyover and unless anyone disagrees Xda should claim.
Gross misunderstanding of the OMGUS scumtell.Master Ruck wrote:EBWOP: seems OMGUSy of Xd to throw that back at me.
I'm still not sure how your gripe with my methodology self-explanatorarily (great phrase) indicates me as scum. Can you clarify?Master Ruck wrote:Self explanatory, thanks to BSG, and Lowell sums it up surprisingly well with his pbp post. I feel confidant with my post.Xdaamno wrote:I admit many of my posts have been speculation. Distancing myself from 'the main scum hunt' is something I do actively.
Yep. This bandwagon is unfounded anyway, and I don't believe it's strong enough to warrant a claim.Master Ruck wrote:@Xdaamo, do not claim until after you've defended yourself (in case it wasn't obvious)
What "results" are you expecting? I suggested that I would address my bandwagon, which is easy as I know the ultimate question of my alignment anyway. Scumhunting is something I do not wish to do by request.Artifex wrote:@Xda- Okay, it will actually be easier to do as you ask me to- analyze your alignment- if you follow through and post some results on scumhunting, so I'll be waiting.
Please justify how my defense instead of offense makes me scum. This is the second time you've played the 'self-explanatory' card, so I'll assume you have no idea what you're talking about yourself unless you address this remark.Master Ruck wrote:Ok, I'll stay. I'm still keeping my vote on Xda for now, at least until he expresses some opinions on other players that are scummy instead of some form of defense.
Lowell wrote:Where did 254 come from? Seriously.
I was just about to add MR to my town list. Scratch that.
What thecharter wrote:Happy with an Xdaamo lynch if he's going to continue saying the answers were obvious, when the only obvious thing is that they were confusing (as is shown in the thread)
Seriously, though? Calling me out for saying the answers were obvious when I had already explained them, then calling my answers "confusing" without doing the same thing? Hypocrite.Xdaamno wrote:What thecharter wrote:Happy with an Xdaamo lynch if he's going to continue saying the answers were obvious, when the only obvious thing is that they were confusing (as is shown in the thread)heck? The only time I said the answers to those questions were obvious in my post was when I had already answered them. I believe I specifically asked you tochallengethose answers if you did not believe they were correct. If you are going to claim the answers are confusing, please statewhyyou believe so, just as I did.
Why the heck should you have to be requested to do that, anyway? You should just be doing it by nature of being a player in this game. Look, maybe the misunderstanding is mine, but I was responding to what you wrote in this post:Xdaamno wrote: What "results" are you expecting? I suggested that I would address my bandwagon, which is easy as I know the ultimate question of my alignment anyway. Scumhunting is something I do not wish to do by request.
Which I thought was directed towards me, seeing as how you quote me in the post (although you have the quote attributed to Artem). Isnt the second job youre referring to in this post scumhunting? And the best way I know how to fulfull your request- to analyze your alignment- is to read posts where you do more than the type of posts you've been making.OK, I certainly admit to that. I'm being lazy, in that I'm going for the easy arguments to make (that is, those for which I know the ultimate answer beforehand). I'm still slacking at my second job. Several of your points, such as the below, fall under this general area. If you're going to be analyzing me, we should stick to my alignment.
By this, I meant "show me the answers that are poor and indicative of scum".Xdaamno wrote:For the second time, could you please provide a reference?charter wrote:Not bull.Xdaamno wrote:Bull. Can you show me a point you (or anyone else) have made that I have failed to show does not make me scum?charter wrote:I think they're poor and indicative of scum. The fact that his wagon didn't balloon after an attempted speedhammer also makes me question why more people aren't voting him.
Either that, or I wascharter wrote:Also,Adding reasosn for your vote after it's way too late, in an attempt to make it seem like you didn't mean the lynch. In your hammer post, you clearly did want the lynch then. The story changing and flip flopping is scummy.Xdaamno wrote:Uh, I don't think so, especially because my Artem vote was also for pressure.BSG wrote:As already mentioned, there was a VC on top of the page where you 'voted' Artem. Strange that you didn't pay much attention towards the VC when you wanted to apply pressure, not?
As I said above, your logic is circular. If I was scum I would be doing as you said (which is an implausable scenario, but I'll be generous and say it's neutral) and if I was town I'd be doing what I had said. What makes one scenario more likely than the other? It's certainly not because you have a kink for stating fallacy as fact.charter wrote:Scummy as well.Xdaamo wrote:I admit many of my posts have been speculation. Distancing myself from 'the main scum hunt' is something I do actively.
You try and change your reasons some more again later. None of the excuses fly because you said you wanted an Artem lynch. Not Artem pressure, not because you were suspicious of Artem.
Fix'ed.Xdaamno wrote:Justto make things clear, charter, you are implying I tried to make it look like an accidental lynch?