Mini 707: Cops and Robbers Mafia (Game Over)

[Ether]

Empking, would you elaborate on your thoughts on everyone who is not Canary?

As y'all have probably figured out, I'm willing to go to Simp if we're deadlined.

k) 484: states he also

wants to

lynch simpor (do you really think we don't know that you don't care who is the lynch, as long it is not you?)

Fuzzyman picked up his flak in the first place because he kept edging out of the Simpwagon in shady ways...it's fairly obvious that that's not the direction he was hoping to go in.

I see K as evidence that you're framing things as evidence of your pattern when they blatantly are nothing of the sort. I think I've been clear on this point.

Meh. I don't want to accept Fuzzyman's innocent, but I'll

unvote

. I don't encourage anyone to counterclaim; I wouldn't feel comfortable outguessing a mod who puts the word "Cops," plural, in the game's title.

I...actually think Fuzzyman's telling the truth. There are just some things about his behavior that Fuzzscum wouldn't explain while Fuzzcop would. Aaaaaaaaaaand of course I'm suddenly paranoid about Corporate's experience all over again now.

(And a biased little part of me thinks it'd be cool if there are multiple cops and Fuzzyman's insane so I can still be right about stuff. ¬_¬)

[mykonian]

I'm going to check something, as this is weird.

[Green Crayons]

I wouldn't feel comfortable outguessing a mod who puts the word "Cops," plural, in the game's title.

I'm surprised this didn't occur to me the moment he claimed. I had a little six o'clock in the morning kick in the pants when I read this, followed by a light bulb going off as to other players. I still would like answers to my questions from Fuzz, however.

I...actually think Fuzzyman's telling the truth. There are just some things about his behavior that Fuzzscum wouldn't explain while Fuzzcop would.

I don't really know what to believe, but I think my play for today will be to set corporate, myk and Fuzz off to the side and just not deal with them. I would like to have Fuzz investigate a third party and see what he gets (the result, not necessarily the player on whom the result was received) so we can determine if he's more likely to be a sane/insane (or a scum pretending to be sane/insane).

unvote: Fuzz

. Assuming Fuzz is telling the truth, that leaves my top three at myk, Mizzy and q21. Since I'm putting myk off to the side for the day, I guess I'll actually have to do that q21 read through.

[mykonian]

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[Green Crayons]

I don't like breadcrumbing. Any halfway decent scum can put in all sorts of breadcrumbs and then point out whichever ones he wants to at a later date to suit his needs. Your breadcrumbing is a null tell and doesn't help me determine anything one way or another.

That said, I see no reason for me to not follow my already outlined plan for the rest of the day.

I'll post again when I get that q21 read.

[charter]

Vote Count:

Fuzzyman - 2 (corporate, q21)

Green Crayons - 1 (Empking)
Empking - 2 (crywolf20084, mykonian)
mykonian - 1 (Ether)

Not Voting: (3)

Mizzy
Green Crayons
Fuzzyman

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!
Looking for a corporate replacement.

[Fuzzyman]

When did you get corporate result, why didn't you non-stop attempt to get him lynched and why exactly are you claiming?

I got the result on Night 0, and I feel I gave a good attempt to get him out Day 1. I'm claiming because q21 was worried that he would kill a power role by voting Emp.

[crywolf20084]

Seriously, You waited to out a guilty..? You have had it for

that

long?

[Mizzy]

Hrm. I'm not sure what I think of these events. I'm also not a fan of breadcrumbing for the reasons stated before and I won't be seeing the breadcrumb as anything but a nulltell.

I can see why Fuzzy would have investigated the two people he did, and that makes me believe his claim. I am not sure whether I feel he's sane or insane, but I'm definitely not sold on there being a miller in general but I'll think on it.

[mykonian]

the only use of a breadcrumb is to show that the claim is not a last moment thing, like when I would get a guilty on me. Now it's use is indeed not so big, it might make the claim stronger, as claiming miller isn't the savest thing to do, because scum can use it to explain guilty's so that town cannot rely on the cop. From what I heard, millers tend to get lynched a lot .

But in this case, that will at least stop you from mislynching corporate, when fuzzy is indeed an insane cop.

[Mizzy]

the only use of a breadcrumb is to show that the claim is not a last moment thing, like when I would get a guilty on me. Now it's use is indeed not so big, it might make the claim stronger, as claiming miller isn't the savest thing to do, because scum can use it to explain guilty's so that town cannot rely on the cop. From what I heard, millers tend to get lynched a lot .

But in this case, that will at least stop you from mislynching corporate, when fuzzy is indeed an insane cop.

Right now, I think we need to take everything with a grain of salt. You were suspicious enough to be investigated at all and we have no real way of confirming anything at the moment.

[Green Crayons]

Lynching confirms things pretty solidly, I think.


Okay, now for real no posting until I do a read.

[Empking]

GC, CW, Ether.

Town Scum, what the hell is this.

_{Sorry for the double post this just caught my eye}

What interests me about this is that the last time Emp says anything about ether before this he seems to be viewing her as town and explaining his unvote of her earlier.

What changed Emp?

The waiting for a prod before posting thing.

Crywolf - Its more of a case that everyone else seems townier than her and I don't see her doing much that I'd expect town to do.

[Empking]

I'm not sure what to thing about the claim. I think both claims are believable.

[Ether]

Generic theory-wise, I consider breadcrumbs a waste of effort unless they reveal flavor. I find Mykonian's timing pretty townish, though.

I don't really have a concrete case, but I'm going to

vote: crywolf20084

.

[Ether]

The waiting for a prod before posting thing.

I have deep-seated emotional problems.

[mykonian]

I don't really have a concrete case, but I'm going to

vote: crywolf20084

.

Thank you for pointing it out. This way, it won't be you that makes people vote crywolf, unless someone else goes that way. I'm sorry, but what is the use of this vote?

[Ether]

That's stupid. I think she's probably scum, and my vote both demonstrates this view and draws attention to her. But yeah, it's tentative.

[crywolf20084]

Umm...Ether, in case you haven't noticed, I have been looked at for looking at

you.

So...Your vote is not a shock to anyone.

[Ether]

I don't follow.

[Green Crayons]

I also want to know how your sudden suspicion peacefully coexists with your previous dismissal of my suspicions of her.

[Ether]

I barely remember the reasons behind my Day 1 stances anymore. I think I was biased by my Simphate--it didn't make sense that Simpscum would try to fish on a scumbuddy's power role reads when he could just wait for night--and came up with a pet theory to get her out of the equation. But that's not the only explanation, and she feels funny to me now. (shrug)

There's also a bit of nightkill WIFOM, though to be fair, Patrick is a lightning rod anyway.

You sound annoyed. Why?

[mykonian]

The most noticable thing crywolf has done as I remember, is attacking Ether. It didn't feel weird or something, and she did it actively. It is the reason I think crywolf most likely town.

[Ether]

I would contest that a.) it was weird and b.) she hasn't done anything noticeable since.

[crywolf20084]

Unvote/Vote: Ether

You went from being way lower on my scum list to the top. You voted me without a case, and I have a very big feeling that you're scum. You went from leading the town, all while you kept

saying

you were town, and then you've turned over a lurker leaf. Now you are (thankfully) back and with this BS vote on me, while most have decided that I have actively been actively scum hunting. I have this major scum vibe coming from you and I would like to see you get lynched.

This is where my vote is gonna stay until you're gone.


PS: Is this noticeable enough for you??