Mafiaplayer wrote:FOS:Azrael
After being told "Scum are doing x", to immeaditealy stop doing x, is scummy.
Also, if Azrael is scum, that nearly definitively means that I am not.
Logical fallacy.
CF Riot wrote:Oh yes. Light is scum. This last post is squirming when his vote is questioned. He's all, "*shrug* Well the only reason I voted Jebus is cause I didn't have anything better to do. *shrug* It really doesn't mean anything. *shrug* All my FoS's don't really mean anything. *shrug* What I do in this game doesn't mean anything. You should all just ignore me. *shrug*"
My reason for saying MP was a good vig target is because I figured a wagon on him would be almost completely unchallenged, and I don't think anyone would back him up or question said wagon. And if everyone does the same thing, you don't have anything to judge people on. This has been said already, in different words. I think it's logical.
I also agreed with the FoS on Azrael for jumping off the MP wagon right after MP's testimony of "scum are on my wagon". His explanation is mehful.
Hm... I am tempted to fill an entire post with shrugs just to see the reaction.
Oh, and CF Riot, congrats on assuming that you can validate your vote on me after voting for me. That shows a lot about your character. Feel free to present a formal case at any time.
popsofctown wrote:armlx wrote:
I think that judging by his actions he is almost certainly scum.
So why aren't you voting him?
If we did immediately vote MP, it would be night again, and tomorrow we'd be in the same boat as today, only with fewer chances to screw up. Do you not think that as a group we have a better chance of finding scum than one person with no day discussion to go by?
So... your logic is you don't want to lynch someone you feel is obv scum because that would bring the game closer to end.
Pro Tip: When you lynch a scum, the worst case number of lynches till lynch or lose does not decrease.
Oh my freaking gosh. Is this the same armlx? The one's whose position is officially: "Lynch MP or vig MP are both good options, with vig MP being slightly better". Why are you jumping on someone for doing what you yourself said is the better option?
CF Riot made a lot of sense a while ago. Light-kun's infinite shrug defense is not a good cop-out, but he uses it for everything like it's ketchup.
If something needs ketchup, it isn't very good, now it is it? On the other hand, that makes for a beautiful metaphor to say that my "shrugs" are for bad arguments. *Contemplating.* I am very bored with this game actually.
Mostly because of the lack of a nice, clean formal post against me. However, if the town feels that lynching me is the best course of action without a case, they
can
though that just demonstrates how stupidity can spread like a virus.
Thus far, the only people who are making any sense to me, whether they be scum or not, is Kuribo and Lowell. Yes, Lowell. I don't really care if you see him scummy or not, I don't think he is scum right now. His play style is always odd, but I liked his play yesterday.
Now, hypothetically, we're going to have about (hmm) 5-6 scum in this game. Now, it would be 4-5. We have 17 people total, indicating scum are actually relatively close to equaling our number. If the kill ratio continues, scum wins on day 4. So, we need a better plan. I don't have a better plan, and instead, I am pointing out our likelihood to lose.
Anyway, here is my scum list (five people). They are related by loose connections (being the secondary qualification), scumminess (the primary qualification) and anti town play (the tertiary qualification, closely behind connections, which is not necessarily true.)
Here is my list:
Azrael001 <-early suggestions and wishywashy voting. MAKE A STAND MAN!
CFRiot <- seems scummy, and searching for a scapegoat. I'll see what happens.
Mafiaplayer<- You have me doubting the mod. NEVER MAKE ME DOUBT THE MOD SCUM! (No seriously, this one should be obvious people.)
Vi <- {Insert rehash here}
with a random fifth person who I haven't deduced yet. If I had to guess, I would just as soon arbitrarily pick the person who has posted the least.
Now, why? Well, I think that Vi has been strong, relatively independent of this alleged mafia group. His only real connection has been with Monkeyman, at which point he favored an attack on someone else. Is this scummy? Well, possibly no. I suppose that arguably, it could be a townie trying not to focus too much on one person. What interests me, however, is just how easily he switched, with minimal MM vs KoC commentary, to oh, I don't even remember. I think Lowell. My point is, that he avoided this completely, and that makes him scummy in my book.
CF looks like scum for his determent of the mafiaplayer lynch and his blind attack on me. Now, now, I am not saying I am unworthy of being attacked. Everyone is equally qualified to be attacked, pending on how they post, what they post, when, etc. etc. However, his attack (and continued attacks) fail to present any case strong than an argument that is conceived of evidence after the fact. He has not yet given me a reason for his vote other than uncited scummy behavior. And if it is cited, I would appreciate, much like I gave against MM, some form of a case that I can defend against. I don't really care much for a vote that has absolutely no source or proof except the reaction to that same vote. It is illogical and pathetic.
So, CF. When you are ready to dedicate a little time to gather some form of a case to present to me so that I can actually explain you are wrong, I won't just shrug you off as irrelevant, then I would respond.
Final note:
@Pops
(bolded in case you otherwise ignored my post.): Hm... What have you thought of? Might shed some light on the town if you gave a bit more than quotes. Explain where/why you see the contradiction.
