Mini #717 - Alpha Centauri Smalltown (Game Over!)


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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:19 pm

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"What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output."

-- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter"


-=Vote Count #17=-


Drunken Piper (1) - Empking

Not Voting (7) - Cephrir, charter, Drunken Piper, MacavityLock, Occam, ortolan, Raging Rabbit

-=Sending out prods to everyone (besides Occam, as he just posted) now that the server problems seem to be resolved. These won't count towards the daily prod limits.=-
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:24 pm

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I'm on vacation, I haven't read this, but I killed farside. I'll be back sat.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:28 pm

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I would prefer popcorn or dice popcorn to the order as listed by Occam.

I will be very LA from pretty much now until the 20th, and if you need to replace me so be it. I will be around to post tomorrow, but after that, I can't guarantee much.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:44 pm

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NB: I would like to stay in this game if at all possible.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:59 pm

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hey posting here due to receiving general prod- I'm here and will post now/soonish
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:45 pm

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um we've clearly got the popcorn claim going- charter claimed in response to me but hasn't nominated anyone else so I shall do so on his behalf

Cephrir, claim next please.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:46 pm

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Checking in. Had a post yesterday that got deleted.

Popcorn claiming it is.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:50 am

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testing testing does this thing work.
typing and it staying shouldnt be a perk.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:51 am

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(sip)


think I might be having issues posting (it either wouldnt go through or it was erased)..will try to update later.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:05 am

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Ort you shouldn't have claimed first. DP rolled so he could change his reaction to popcorning once he knew who was going first. We shouldn't have gave that to him.

Almost sure DP is scum.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:23 am

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is any one else noting this stretch?
makes me want to retch.
(gulp)
Empking wrote:Ort you shouldn't have claimed first. DP rolled so he could change his reaction to popcorning once he knew who was going first. We shouldn't have gave that to him.

Almost sure DP is scum.
Please explain what the fuck this means? Change my mind about popcorning? I have wanted fucking random claims from day 1 and have not changed my fucking position about that. I STILL want random claims. I have only agreed to popcorn, so it is at least partially random and YOU dont get to pick who goes first. Speaking of scum, why do you GET to decide you popcorned first? WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH THE FIRST PERSON TO START THE POPCORN BEING DECIDED RANDOMLY?

Orto, i dont think you should decide who claims next...first of all, charter has not claimed fully. he has not stated if anyone targetted him last night (mason...inventor)....The whole reason we decided to do popcron(instead of dice) was to hold people accountable for who they chose....by chosing for charter he is not being held accountable...

So if charter does not chose I think we should dice again....Orto care to role?
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:30 am

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also makeing this list..
to keep tabs, on this.

(sip)


Random start Popcorn order:
1.) Orto, Fully claimed. Protected RR (chose charter to go next)
2.) charter, partially claimed. Killed farside (no choice, Orto chose Ceph for charter's turn..it is up to Ceph if he wants to claim or wait for a dice role or charter's full claim)

other claims out of popcorn order:
Empking, partially claimed, no night action.
Occam, partially claimed, did not commute.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:14 am

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What do you mean partially claimed?

Also - I really don't think it matters at this point who "starts" the popcorn claim, because several players have already claimed.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:41 am

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I didn't have a problem with choosing randomly. I had a problem with allowing you to know who would go first.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:02 am

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Lying 101,
get your facts straight, son.

(sip)

Empking wrote:I didn't have a problem with choosing randomly. I had a problem with allowing you to know who would go first.
Empking wrote:
Vote: Drunken Piper


Trying to get random claims with a descision from the town to do that clearly not pro-town plan.

As I have no night action.

DrunkenPiper, you can go first.
Empking wrote:
Drunken Piper wrote:so I am scummy for wanting the random claiming? WHY IS RANDOM CLAIMING SCUMMY?
As Popcorning is more pro-town.
backtracking, stretching, and lies...YOU HAD A HUGE PROBLEM WITH RANDOM CLAIMING...

vote empking
(unless something in claims changes this)

You orginally spouted that I must be scum because I wanted random claiming..now you are saying you didnt have a problem with random claiming after I pushed you to explain why. I didnt care who went first...I just wanted it to be random. THAT IS WHY YOU INTIALLY ATTACKED ME.

you lied about not thinking random claiming is scummy (which is why you first started attacking me). Now you are back tracking on that. You are stretching with you "case": Over reaction is scummy...and since I didnt claim (even though I dont have night actions) after you wanted me to..I must me scummy.

I would like to hear EVERYONE's thoughts on this bullshit...
Occam wrote:What do you mean partially claimed?
you havent claimed yet (and I dont think you should until your turn)..if someone targetted you or not last night.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:34 am

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I wrote:Also, as far as I know I was not targeted last night - at least, I wasn't informed that I was.
That's why I was confused - I already did.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:38 am

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I may as well claim, really, since my claim isn't going to change much of anything. I did nothing, although I did consider doing a few somethings. Not sure enough about DP, and my other top protown players I thought might die.

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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:32 am

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man, after the claim no one run,
I am going to have some question after we are done.

(sip)


updating..

Random start Popcorn order:
1.) Orto, Fully claimed. Protected RR (chose charter to go next)
2.) charter, partially claimed. Killed farside
3.) Cephrir, fully claimed. Did nothing (chose occam, who has already claimed)
4.) Occam, fully claimed, did not commute

other claims out of popcorn order:
Empking, partially claimed, no night action.

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Occam your choice...who do you want to see claim?

Also, Ceph your thoughts on my suspicion of Emp? His "suspicion" of me?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:10 pm

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Let's have DP claim next then.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:37 pm

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I shall go now...
with an anti-pow

(sip)

Occam wrote:Let's have DP claim next then.
I have no night actions and I wasnt targetted..

ML, who did you block?

updating..

Random start Popcorn order:
1.) Orto, Fully claimed. Protected RR and was not targetted(chose charter to go next)
2.) charter, partially claimed. Killed farside
3.) Cephrir, fully claimed. Did nothing and was not targetted(chose occam, who has already claimed)
4.) Occam, fully claimed, did not commute and was not targetted (chose DP)
5.) DP, fully claimed, no night actions and was not targetted (chose ML)
6.) ML.....

other claims out of popcorn order:
Empking, partially claimed, no night action.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:04 pm

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Blocked Empking. Received no inventions, nor mason invites.

RR, I choose you.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:25 am

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Drunken Piper wrote:
Lying 101,
get your facts straight, son.

(sip)

Empking wrote:I didn't have a problem with choosing randomly. I had a problem with allowing you to know who would go first.
Empking wrote:
Vote: Drunken Piper


Trying to get random claims with a descision from the town to do that clearly not pro-town plan.

As I have no night action.

DrunkenPiper, you can go first.
Empking wrote:
Drunken Piper wrote:so I am scummy for wanting the random claiming? WHY IS RANDOM CLAIMING SCUMMY?
As Popcorning is more pro-town.
backtracking, stretching, and lies...YOU HAD A HUGE PROBLEM WITH RANDOM CLAIMING...

vote empking
(unless something in claims changes this)

You orginally spouted that I must be scum because I wanted random claiming..now you are saying you didnt have a problem with random claiming after I pushed you to explain why. I didnt care who went first...I just wanted it to be random. THAT IS WHY YOU INTIALLY ATTACKED ME.

you lied about not thinking random claiming is scummy (which is why you first started attacking me). Now you are back tracking on that. You are stretching with you "case": Over reaction is scummy...and since I didnt claim (even though I dont have night actions) after you wanted me to..I must me scummy.

I would like to hear EVERYONE's thoughts on this bullshit...
Occam wrote:What do you mean partially claimed?
you havent claimed yet (and I dont think you should until your turn)..if someone targetted you or not last night.
You know What I meant.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:11 pm

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I tracked ortolan, who's telling the truth about targeting me. Received nothing.

Looks like the only missing bit of info is whether emp got targeted.

empking's latest posts do feel like a shaky attempt to attack DP, but I saw him make a similar bad case on farside in another game as town. Still, we should definitely keep him in mind, especially since having another suspect hammer him seems like a viable option today.

I need to reread the first day for a fresh prespective on things, totally baffled about monkey being town.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:00 pm

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I think Emp is either just a poor player
or scum. either way he is givng me a head ache, pass the bayer.
(drink)


acutally emp, I dont have a fucking clue what you are saying..did you or did you not intially attack me for wanting random claiming? AND why are you ignoring questions?

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Random start Popcorn order:
1.) Orto, Fully claimed. Protected RR and was not targetted(chose charter to go next)
2.) charter, partially claimed. Killed farside
3.) Cephrir, fully claimed. Did nothing and was not targetted(chose occam, who has already claimed)
4.) Occam, fully claimed, did not commute and was not targetted (chose DP)
5.) DP, fully claimed, no night actions and was not targetted (chose ML)
6.) ML, fully claimed, block Emp and was not targetted (chose RR)
7.) RR, fully claimed, tracked "confirms that Orto protected RR" and was not targetted.

other claims out of popcorn order:
Empking, partially claimed, no night action.

Emp were you targetted last night with anything or are you going to not answer that question either? Same question for you charter...I assume if you were giving something you would have said that by now.
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have some thoughts about the claims coming....here are my intial thoughts

also unvote.
for now

but it looks like we have a random jailing, invention, and a redirecting not accounted for.

I cant image scum would redirect an invention or mason over something like a kill or block of some sort....They didnt bother with redirecting or blocking (if they had that) the vig which I find very interesting. However, the jailer could have blocked the redirector..that we will not know.

Charter, why did you decide to kill farside?
ML, why did you decide to block Emp?
Orto, why did you chose charter to claim after you?

going to reread Day 1...

...also it looks like the SK killed mafia.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:18 pm

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Drunken Piper wrote:ML, why did you decide to block Emp?
I had 3 potential people I was considering targeting. (I'm not going to say who else I was considering, as I might go that way tonight, etc.) I chose Empking because I did not at all like the way he jumped off of MM onto Grem/ort at the end of yesterday, and I thought as someone without an active ability, he would be a likely person to be tasked with kills.

I would like to add my voice to DP asking charter why he killed farside.

I need to re-read as well, but my LA will hamper the situation. I'll do my best, certainly, and try to respond as quickly as possible to any questions.
Yes, my fake claim is Innocent Aligned with the Town win condition as per the mod's first post.

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