Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm lost this game. So I'm going to blend into the background. Is that okay?

No this is unacceptable

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

User Sunflower what do you think about users Kyoko and Klick

hi! i know this wasn't directed towards me but uhh. ok so kyoko posted. i didn't even know they were in the game but i saw them and they slapped me back to my danganronpa phase. which i barely escaped. i got like. the flashbacks. but also kirigiri best girl. tbh i don't remember much about their posting, just that they had a kirigiri avatar.
i think i like klick's posting so far. i don't remember any posts they made asides from the one on the slider though

Getting slapped back into danganronpa phase is the best anyway. your welcome

As for people who dislike my town lean comment on Gimli in rvs pages, this might make you dislike it more but I mainly put it there to see how he reacts to it. I felt good about him poking my entrance genuinely, but I don't have many solid reads at this time and I get them hard in general.

I also think dragoneater reaction there was okish as it felt genuine, as for it being a bit exaggerated with Gimli, I remember him getting awkward with meta reads before in a way, so I'm not reading much into it.

I submitted car seat, sheeples and dial 11-12

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Hu Tao?
More like
Hu Chained to the desk

[DragonEater70]

Wow is this going to be the first time that I vote Klick and it's NOT a reaction test?

No

You are wrong btw, it wasn't a reaction test. I just felt it was weird for you to open with a random thought about mech and then disappear instead of engaging with the plenty of content that was there. But my VP scumread is bigger so here I am not voting you atm.

What do you expect me to have an opinion on at the minute?

My townread on Gimli, people's reactions to it, people's scumread on Gimli (I think that may have happened after your entrance but you still ignored it), people's scunread of Black (same as for last one), Kyoko x Gimli interaction, Ravens trying to get out of RVS but with pretty meh content... The list goes on.

I will say however that your recent posting (i.e. all three posts since the one I voted you for) have made me lean more town on you. But the above is the original reasoning for the vote.

I don't know enough about the Klick or Von Payne votes to even take a realistic guess at Dragon's perspective there. I just don't agree with them.

It's your Mith-given right to disagree with whatever you want to, but I think it's weird to disagree with something that you don't even know. I explained Klick vote, will explain Von Payne vote in a few minutes.

[DragonEater70]

(using Mith-given right because we're in a 2013 game and I hear that's the correct lingo in this time period)

[Hu Tao]

I'm lost this game. So I'm going to blend into the background. Is that okay?

No this is unacceptable

But why

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao?
More like
Hu Chained to the desk

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I'm lost this game. So I'm going to blend into the background. Is that okay?

No this is unacceptable

But why

because I’m a great and powerful evil whose very existence and words deny you from doing what u want if u decide to give those words power
Muahahahahahaha

[DragonEater70]

The vote on Von Payne was mainly that I didn't like how Black pushed me. I think it's okay for Black to have a scumread of me here (even though her reasoning is pretty meh and she's hypocritical in saying I'm not reevaluating but not trying to understand my stance herself). That's not what I have a problem with, in fact it's probably towny. What I have a problem with is the fact she's been pushing me but not voting and also apparently pushing Gimli and also not voting? It kinda feels like she's pushing for the sake of making a push and doesn't reallyyyy think we're scum. Idk. As of writing this down I feel way less strongly about it. I do also happen to agree with Gimli that I kinda expected Black's entrance to be more solving oriented, but meh I agree we shouldn't try to do meta reads this game.

[DragonEater70]

UNVOTE:

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Prism

I feel something about her reads is off. Like she's definitely saying TRUE things to back them up, but her conclusions are kinda forced which

might

be scum indicative.

[Prism]

There are no votes. We're in Moonrise. I'm also not voting you.

[Prism]

To be clear, that's a response to the point that it's scummy for Von Payne to not vote Dragon. I am neither surprised nor interested in the vote on me.

[DragonEater70]

Like saying "dragoneater is acting different to pizza kids! That's scummy!" When there are huge differences to Pizza Kids, including but not limited to: sleep deprivation, being the first one to try and post reads rather than reacting to other people's reads (I feel it's always awkward to make reads first, which is why I avoid doing it as scum tbh), a different playerlist, the game is heavily mech based and people have been talking about mech, not townreads, etc.

[DragonEater70]

There are no votes. We're in Moonrise. I'm also not voting you.

Pretty sure the mods said the dream vote is

in addition

to elimination votes?

[Prism]

I'm happy leaving 288 without a response.

[DragonEater70]

Enjoy.

[DragonEater70]

Don't complain later that I am the one seeking to avoid fights

[Prism]

You are correct actually. Unfortunately I'm still not sure since the game-specific rules do not match reality in other respects. #3 specifies Moonrise is

before

Day phase, and

at least

24 hours.

[DragonEater70]

In addition to the elimination, players may begin voting for 3 unique Dreams during the day by sending a PM to the Mods

At least that's how I interpreted it.

[Hu Tao]

Dragon this may be my fastest town read on you yet

[Aureal]

Okay, after a nap and food I finally found the time and brainpower to scrutinize the setup and in trying to lay out how it works I figured out why my quick skimming earlier was making me so confused.

Bonus phases:

Moonrise (24 hours of thread being open):

6 Dream titles are revealed at start. Players (begin?) voting for 3 of them. I am confused about whether voting concludes during Moonrise or continues into the Day phase because rule 4 refers both to voting for an elimination (which we don't actually seem able to do right now) and saying voting is during the

day

, which indicates voting for dreams does not end here. But rule 5 goes on to talk about Bad Dreams discarding one of the top three voted dreams after 24 hours of Moonrise, which cannot happen if voting isn't finalized. I'm thinking it's the latter because that's more specific but it's making it hard to parse as written.

Twilight:

Occurs after the elimination vote, effects are unstated. I assume it's what is typically referred to as twilight with the thread guaranteed to remain unlocked for discussion for 6 hours, but since it says it occurs after the elimination is "posted" it implies that perhaps we actually get it after the player flip result?

So this is my conclusion on how I think it plays out.

Moonrise:

6 Dream titles are revealed at start.
Players get 24 hours to discuss, send votes for Dreams, and top 3 are selected.
Bad Dreams discard one of top 3.
Dreamer reveals one of the 2 remaining Dreams, then picks which of the 2 to use for the next Night. The selected Dream is revealed to all.

Day:

Regular dayplay*

Twilight:

6 hours of discussion post-flip

Night:

Regular nightplay*

*aside from any Dream-related effects

@mod: Can you clarify whether my conclusion is accurate?

[Prism]

The language is there, I'm just not sure it's accurate since the game-specific rules were noticeably redrafted and have vestigial clauses.

I inferred in two different ways from the lack of votecounts that nothing would be tracked during Moonrise: fferyllt follows the same convention I do with a zero-indexed daystart votecount, and she aims to have one for every 4 or 5 pages.

[DragonEater70]

Yeah okay that makes sense. Well there goes my Black scumread.

[DragonEater70]

47 and 48: actually having these opinions would be scummy.

I agree actually, I thought Kyoko's townread of Gimli was weird.